Another Chapter, Another Problem

[Kodama]

So Kishi has finally verified that the Naruto that we just watched destroy the 3rd Raikage and beat up the 2nd Tsuchikage were all clones while the real Naruto took on Nagato and ran around in a forest.... this creates a bit of a problem. as far as i know, up until this point, the use of shadow clones has been akin to mental juggling (example: Naruto being a genius that surpassed the 4th Hokages skill by using 3 different clones to manipulate chakra in different ways to make the rasen shuriken). If using yourself and 2 other shadow clones to complete a Jutsu is considered extremely difficult, it makes no sense that all of a sudden each of Naruto's independent shadow clones has the abilities to defeat a Kage.

Furthermore if 1 of Naruto clones has the ability to defeat a Kage then Naruto is already unbeatable (sorry Sasuke fanboys). if Naruto went back to the boring tactic of barraging his enemy with shadow clones, and all of a sudden each shadow clone is powerful enough to defeat a kage, no single character would be able to even handle even a small group of Naruto clones now. if one Naruto clone is as powerful as a Kage, and Naruto can make 100 clones, who the *** could take on the equivalent of 100 Kages? unless we're to assume there is a character out there that could fight many Kages at once (besides Naruto apparently).

AND now all of a sudden each clone can independently make its own clones and go in and out of Sage Mode AND Kyuubi Chakra Mode? i think Kishi has made a BIG mistake.

 

[Gatsndshanks]

Agreed. It's ridiculous.

 

[Tosen]

I agree but hey what can you do he is the main character after all and we can just assume that EMS Sasuke will have something to match him with in terms of power since those two will fight.

 

[Kianto]

We havent seen sasuke in action yet with his Ems but i agree with you so far, bunshin beating third raikage lol

 

[coolcomfort]

right. we havent seen sasukes new skills...
he has perma amateresu and else dont be so confident in naruto!
sure he is overskilled now but have u really though that kishi want wo win naruto easy or reverse?

 

[Vincent]

doesnt quite work like that, the more clones naruto makes, the weaker him and they are, as he is equally dividing his chakra among them, so if the 5-6 clones he made are at kage level, if he made 100 clones they would be around 20 times weaker

 

[Howard]

Ok I'm going to take this slow...

Naruto has Kyuubi chakra it's near infinite which means there is almost no end to the chakra he made the clones while using this which means he split up that massive amount of chakra and put it into his clones... meaning that they each have vast amounts of chakra so why can't they split up the chakra they have to make more clones? they can use the chakra as their own.... where is the plot hole/problem they have vast amounts of chakra chakra that is comparable to 10 times Naruto's strength without kyuubi easily.... and... U_U people just want to complain it's annoying you get this for FREE you don't pay to read it... so Stfu and just read it.... people complained when Naruto was training because they wanted to see his new power when Kishi gave them what they wanted a new group arose that complained cause of to much Naruto.... now people are complaining because a Shadow Clone used a jutsu? .-. they CAN do that...

 

[Mr PLATINUM]

well it seems naruto has surpassed the previous kages with high expectations. minato was a genius and foreseen it. he knew that naruto having the kyuubi will save the village! and he was right about that! it doesnt take anyone to be on level to defeat someone. konohamaru took out one of the pains and he is only a genin. shikamaru took out hidan by himself that even 2 jounins(kotetsu and some other? tag team) couldnt take out and need i remind even asuma couldnt beat. chouji and neji who were genin at the time defeated oro's henchmen who had the curse mark.
what im getting at is naruto is growing stronger and smarter then before. we dont really know the extent and how massive narutos chakra is but we can assume by how many shadow clones he makes that his chakra level is beyond any character we've seen. so naruto normal chakra + kyuubi chakra = f*king energizer bunny x10,000!

 

[ZK]

Dat Sawske gai is goin' dawns O_O

 

[Kodama]

Ok I'm going to take this slow...

Naruto has Kyuubi chakra it's near infinite which means there is almost no end to the chakra he made the clones while using this which means he split up that massive amount of chakra and put it into his clones... meaning that they each have vast amounts of chakra so why can't they split up the chakra they have to make more clones? they can use the chakra as their own.... where is the plot hole/problem they have vast amounts of chakra chakra that is comparable to 10 times Naruto's strength without kyuubi easily.... and... U_U people just want to complain it's annoying you get this for FREE you don't pay to read it... so Stfu and just read it.... people complained when Naruto was training because they wanted to see his new power when Kishi gave them what they wanted a new group arose that complained cause of to much Naruto.... now people are complaining because a Shadow Clone used a jutsu? .-. they CAN do that...

wow thanks for the warm welcome! 16,000 posts eh and you still go by "STFU and read"... i didnt say its not possible, im saying it makes Naruto too strong by about 1000%. nobody in the history of the "narutoverse" even stands a chance against him now.

thanks for the oversimplification and lack of insight. have a good day.

 

[Howard]

wow thanks for the warm welcome! 16,000 posts eh and you still go by "STFU and read"... i didnt say its not possible, im saying it makes Naruto too strong by about 1000%. nobody in the history of the "narutoverse" even stands a chance against him now.

thanks for the oversimplification and lack of insight. have a good day.

.-. well there are 5 threads about how Naruto shadow clone making a shadow clone is a plot hole/error O_O and to me it seems redundant I mean if they can perform other jutsu what is the difference in Shadow Clone jutsu......

 

[lanakau888]

These shadow clones may have the ability to take out kage's, but their durability is questionable. And I doubt naruto can make any more than how much he already has made because when he tried to make another in KM mode, his chakra cloak wore off. So i wouldn't say 100 clones, it would be more like 15 to 20.

No matter how powerful kishi makes naruto, sasuke and madara will at least be on the same level with madara probably a lot stronger.

 

[Ichinaru]

doesnt quite work like that, the more clones naruto makes, the weaker him and they are, as he is equally dividing his chakra among them, so if the 5-6 clones he made are at kage level, if he made 100 clones they would be around 20 times weaker

Agreed ^!

His few clones are made for kage fight and others just to sense zetsu... those destroying zetsus are week.

 

[Shamita]

Ok I'm going to take this slow...

Naruto has Kyuubi chakra it's near infinite which means there is almost no end to the chakra he made the clones while using this which means he split up that massive amount of chakra and put it into his clones... meaning that they each have vast amounts of chakra so why can't they split up the chakra they have to make more clones? they can use the chakra as their own.... where is the plot hole/problem they have vast amounts of chakra chakra that is comparable to 10 times Naruto's strength without kyuubi easily.... and... U_U people just want to complain it's annoying you get this for FREE you don't pay to read it... so Stfu and just read it.... people complained when Naruto was training because they wanted to see his new power when Kishi gave them what they wanted a new group arose that complained cause of to much Naruto.... now people are complaining because a Shadow Clone used a jutsu? .-. they CAN do that...

i completely agree wid u....guyys seriiouslyy !!??!! stop complaining nd enjoy !!! naruto is a great manga nd i think kishi is doing a gr8 job wid it! its shows naruto's progress slowly...u wont get a super dooper episode every week will ya....??!! i say jst sit back and relaax ..dnt hv to go soo deep into it..!!

 

[LEAU92]

i just want to point out that each clone thinks for itself, note that each time naruto makes a clone and sends it to a different location (this is seen in the search for sasuke arc) the original doesn't see or know what those clones are doing, the only time he knows is when he releases it and takes in all the information.

and to answer your question about clones being really powerful, i think it sounds about right, seeing as naruto has attained the nine tails chakra, he can divide massive quantities between them.

good job kishi

 

[XXDeadpoolXX]

@ leau92 and howard. plot holes found and plugged gj people. i agree with both of you. shadow clones of his level are alot higher than those of someone elses. (not saying names cause i dont feel like going into that) no need to dig further into a fictional story lol. all this OP bs and someone getting more "screen" time is just like 3 episodes of goku screaming and charging a spirit bomb the crap happens deal with it. got a problem how about the manga and fillers are going, how about asking kishi to give you a job. rofl

 

[lanakau888]

doesnt quite work like that, the more clones naruto makes, the weaker him and they are, as he is equally dividing his chakra among them, so if the 5-6 clones he made are at kage level, if he made 100 clones they would be around 20 times weaker

you has got to recount the clones my friend. He made over 15.

 

[nickalfred31]

it takes more than one chapter to explain the events that are happening right now...just calm down and wait for kishi to further explain his choice of writing the manga and how he shows the manga to us...
I know tht its all over the place with the manga but kishi should clear up some questions with the next few chapter...?

 

[olumuyiwapariola]

Minato has predicted an attack on the leaf village which made him seal the fox chakra inside his son (naruto) for a greater advantage compared to him and the rest who fought with the demon fox, so now that a war stated when naruto is now fully in control of the fox give kishi the kudos for the prediction of minato over naruto. And morover jiraya's belived in naruto likewise to solve the hatred in the nija world, also is nagato(pain). Applaude kishi! Good wit

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Ok I'm going to take this slow...

Naruto has Kyuubi chakra it's near infinite which means there is almost no end to the chakra he made the clones while using this which means he split up that massive amount of chakra and put it into his clones... meaning that they each have vast amounts of chakra so why can't they split up the chakra they have to make more clones? they can use the chakra as their own.... where is the plot hole/problem they have vast amounts of chakra chakra that is comparable to 10 times Naruto's strength without kyuubi easily.... and... U_U people just want to complain it's annoying you get this for FREE you don't pay to read it... so Stfu and just read it.... people complained when Naruto was training because they wanted to see his new power when Kishi gave them what they wanted a new group arose that complained cause of to much Naruto.... now people are complaining because a Shadow Clone used a jutsu? .-. they CAN do that...

yeah i agree with u

and also naruto dont beat raikage alone he has some skilled shinobi to back him up