Anime you son of a b.

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What makes good animation? Who dictates what good animation is? I took a flash animation class. At what point am I qualified to deem whether artwork is good or not?

These are all questions you can't answer because it's all opinion.
No, it's not. Opinions are just an idea without any proof or evidence, and they can be disproved anytime.
Animation is composed of many elements, many characteristcs. There are these 12 basic principles of animation that your animation should follow to be at least acceptable. This is a start. The other characteristcs are usually related to the movement, drawing and details. They can be better analysed by those who knows the principles of drawing. Following basic physics rules for exemple are something that improves the movement of your animation.
The rest, I don't know how to explain well, because I'm not good at it.

Now, no matter what you say, it's not up to opinions, it never was. You can keep telling yourself that, but nothing is. Reality is one and only, there's a truth about anything.If every opinion was true, reality wouldn't make sense, because we would have countless truths contradicting each other.
You're mistaking characteristcs with taste.
 

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No, it's not. Opinions are just an idea without any proof or evidence, and they can be disproved anytime.
Animation is composed of many elements, many characteristcs. There are these 12 basic principles of animation that your animation should follow to be at least acceptable. This is a start. The other characteristcs are usually related to the movement, drawing and details. They can be better analysed by those who knows the principles of drawing. Following basic physics rules for exemple are something that improves the movement of your animation.
The rest, I don't know how to explain well, because I'm not good at it.

Now, no matter what you say, it's not up to opinions, it never was. You can keep telling yourself that, but nothing is. Reality is one and only, there's a truth about anything.If every opinion was true, reality wouldn't make sense, because we would have countless truths contradicting each other.
You're mistaking characteristcs with taste.
Annnnnnnd we're done here. Now I know you have no idea what you're talking about.
 

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I thought the animation of Pain was average. The distorted objectification of his body shows extreme speed in motion. Nothing bad there. I thought he was well colored and the stenciling was fine. Again, all of that is your opinion. It's not a fact that it's bad. You look at it and say it's bad, I look at it and say it's fine. Completely subjective, as all art is.
The movement in which he says "my pain is far greater than yours"? It's not good. If you say that, you have 0 knowledge about movement. That movement was stiff, and it even seemed as if it was lagging. The rest was indeed kinf of fluid, but some movements didn't make any sense(like the time he became a dolphin or the one in which he became roadrunner).

You can think whatever you want. Good artists and animators can make a complete analysis and shut you up. you'll run out of arguments and all you'll have it "But I thought it was good", which proves nothing. Your opinion doesn't change reality.
 

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Annnnnnnd we're done here. Now I know you have no idea what you're talking about.
It's called basic understanding of reality. If we have X=Y, and Y=/=Z, then X can't =Z. However, if in my opinion, X=Z, I am wrong, if the 2 others can be proved. However, if opinions were never wrong, if opinions were always right, then i could say X=Z because it's my opinion. But considering that situation, nature would have a flaw in it's logic, reality would be flawed, and thus, nothing would make sense.

Opinions are just an idea, an empty idea. It can be taken as fact nor as an argument. It holds nothing.
 

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No, it's not. Opinions are just an idea without any proof or evidence, and they can be disproved anytime.
Animation is composed of many elements, many characteristcs. There are these 12 basic principles of animation that your animation should follow to be at least acceptable. This is a start. The other characteristcs are usually related to the movement, drawing and details. They can be better analysed by those who knows the principles of drawing. Following basic physics rules for exemple are something that improves the movement of your animation.
The rest, I don't know how to explain well, because I'm not good at it.

Now, no matter what you say, it's not up to opinions, it never was. You can keep telling yourself that, but nothing is. Reality is one and only, there's a truth about anything.If every opinion was true, reality wouldn't make sense, because we would have countless truths contradicting each other.
You're mistaking characteristcs with taste.
Uh...nobody in their right mind would look at Pain's animations during the Six Tailed Naruto fight and say it was "fine".The old 'it's subjective" arguement that so many people like to use when disputing something that's factual cannot be used when something is bad and there is evidence to prove it.
 
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If they mess up hashirama vs madara flashback i'm done lol!
There was'nt alot of high speed movement in the Hashirama VS Madara battle so that fight should be okay.It's the Juubito VS Naruto/Minato,Tobirama and Sasuke fight I'm worried about since there is alot of scenes where high speed action is involved and the anime is terrible when it comes to showing anything moving at high speeds.
 
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The guy over there thinks the pain fight was good. Why? Because it's his opinions, and for him, opinions are never wrong, and everything is subjective.
"Everything is subjective" is the biggest load of BS I've ever heard.People actually use it to defend something that's terrible nowadays and ignore any and all facts put before them.
 
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"Everything is subjective" is the biggest load of BS I've ever heard.People actually use to defend something that's terrible nowadays and ignore any and all facts put before them.
Agreed. People use it when they don't have anything to back up their mistaken opinions. It's sad and stupid.
 

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There was'nt alot of high speed movement in the Hashirama VS Madara battle so that fight should be okay.It's the Juubito VS Naruto/Minato,Tobirama and Sasuke fight I'm worried about since there is alot of scenes where high speed action is involved and the anime is terrible when it comes to showing anything moving at high speeds.
I'm worry about that too, oh man
 
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