Anbu Itachi, Kakashi, and Yamato vs Anbu Zabzua, Kisame, and Mangetsu(+Suigetsu Feats

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Pre-shippuden naruto doesnt matter. He still had more stamina than 99.99% of NV. As scans prove kyuubi was the reason for his stamina are you telling me kyuubi improved its stamina from part 1 to part 2? I hope you're not telling something like that. So now your premise is kisame is not getting caught in genjutsu? Hiding in mist is useless because of the soul reading ability which itachi has as kabuto stated.

@bold, my argument was always that if you could read :p

as for soul reading ability, i already conceded, didn't I? =D
 

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@bold, my argument was always that if you could read :p

as for soul reading ability, i already conceded, didn't I? =D

If you conceded, then how is kisame masking his presence around itachi? He can always sense his soul and know his thoughts. Another feat of this ability is itachi knowing sasuke was not dead from miles away.
 

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If you conceded, then how is kisame masking his presence around itachi? He can always sense his soul and know his thoughts. Another feat of this ability is itachi knowing sasuke was not dead from miles away.

Do you know what conceding means? I mean you won the debate =D As for itachi's soul ability, well i'd say minato beats him in that as he knew at the birth of naruto that naruto will beat tobi one day. I mean that is foretelling future that was going to happen 16 years afterwards :p
 

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Do you know what conceding means? I mean you won the debate =D As for itachi's soul ability, well i'd say minato beats him in that as he knew at the birth of naruto that naruto will beat tobi one day. I mean that is foretelling future that was going to happen 16 years afterwards :p

Minato didnt foretell a current incident, he just had his hopes up. Thats the worst feat he has other than his overly hyped low level speed.
 

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Minato didnt foretell a current incident, he just had his hopes up. Thats the worst feat he has other than his overly hyped low level speed.

So minato's feat is just high hopes while itachi is guaranteed astrologist ;) XD
 

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So minato's feat is just high hopes while itachi is guaranteed astrologist ;) XD

Where was minato stated to read souls? I think you've some real feat of minato doing so in your intelligent memory. Itachi sensed as obito's presence and knew what he was going to do to leaf before minato even suspected anything. So much for minato's "soothsayer" ability dont you think great memory genius?
 

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Where was minato stated to read souls? I think you've some real feat of minato doing so in your intelligent memory. Itachi sensed as obito's presence and knew what he was going to do to leaf before minato even suspected anything. So much for minato's "soothsayer" ability dont you think great memory genius?

Dude seriously read naruto manga. Itachi was like 6 when minato died. While he made contact with obito when he was teen. -_-
 

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Dude seriously read naruto manga. Itachi was like 6 when minato died. While he made contact with obito when he was teen. -_-

Nevertheless he did sense obito didnt he? Obito was amazed by that feat btw.
 

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Nevertheless he did sense obito didnt he? Obito was amazed by that feat btw.

Yeah itachi is one of the most intelligent characters in the series. He isn't a sensor though if you meant that by sense. He found out about obito with intellect, yeah.
 

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Yeah itachi is one of the most intelligent characters in the series. He isn't a sensor though if you meant that by sense. He found out about obito with intellect, yeah.

He isnt a sensor he can just feel the souls of people around him. Kind of like how he sensed Sasuke was not dead he could feel his soul has not gone to pure land. Kabuto blatantly states this but you're outright denying it.
 

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He isnt a sensor he can just feel the souls of people around him. Kind of like how he sensed Sasuke was not dead he could feel his soul has not gone to pure land. Kabuto blatantly states this but you're outright denying it.

How old are you? Kabuto praised itachi for his intellect that he could see into other people. Which itachi denied by saying you overestimate me. Itachi's whole character revolve around philosophy and intelligence. And that is what earned him all the praise he got. Hokage intellect at 7 and all. If you don't understand that then this discussion was doomed from start.
 

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How old are you? Kabuto praised itachi for his intellect that he could see into other people. Which itachi denied by saying you overestimate me. Itachi's whole character revolve around philosophy and intelligence. And that is what earned him all the praise he got. Hokage intellect at 7 and all. If you don't understand that then this discussion was doomed from start.

Oh so bijuudama breaking mountains is legit even though you've no sense of measuremsnt how strong that mountain is or how strong bijuudama is but you know that soul reading is just intelligence? How is reading souls an intelligence trait?
 

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Oh so bijuudama breaking mountains is legit even though you've no sense of measuremsnt how strong that mountain is or how strong bijuudama is but you know that soul reading is just intelligence? How is reading souls an intelligence trait?

Fine, itachi can read souls as he did read of sasuke's, right? And minato can do it even better, see into the future of soul like he did with naruto's. Happy?
 

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Fine, itachi can read souls as he did read of sasuke's, right? And minato can do it even better, see into the future of soul like he did with naruto's. Happy?

Minato said "lets put faith in our son" to kushina. If you interpreted it as reading souls your brain so intelligent is the best brain I've ever seen in my entire life. Lmfao.
 
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