Analysis: Who the manga says is the strongest Hokage...

[Raito]

First, this isn't even my scan and secondly Hashirama shares a title with Rikudo Sennin, not Hiruzen. People praised Hiruzen god of shinobi when they believed in his abilitys, unlike Hashiramas strength was so huge that he was considered a fairy tail just like the Rikudo Sennin.

 

[MrLukyso]

It's long time clear that Hiruzen is overated and maybe he was strong at part 1, I will repeat myself Hashirama > Hiruzen. Fairy tale > God of shinobi ( Part 1 btw ).

 

[Raito]

Hiruzens fight against Edo Hashirama and the Mokuton he used just shows in which dimensions Kishimoto thought about Hashiramas strength then. Slowly you're getting absurd with your hype, Owarij.

 

[Owarij]

First, this isn't even my scan and secondly Hashirama shares a title with Rikudo Sennin, not Hiruzen. People praised Hiruzen god of shinobi when they believed in his abilitys, unlike Hashiramas strength was so huge that he was considered a fairy tail just like the Rikudo Sennin.

god of shinobi is the title given to so6p.. and hiruzen

yes so6p the guy who created the moon,defeated 10 tails.. yes they called him god of shinobi.. then they called hiruzen god of shinobi that is >>>>>>>>>>>> fairy tail.. wanna know why? that fairy tale hype isn't even unique to hashirama.. kabuto clearly says that there were other people on his level that aren't alive right now

 

[Raito]

..when did Kabuto say there were other people on Hashiramas level?

 

[Lamar941]

First, this isn't even my scan and secondly Hashirama shares a title with Rikudo Sennin, not Hiruzen. People praised Hiruzen god of shinobi when they believed in his abilitys, unlike Hashiramas strength was so huge that he was considered a fairy tail just like the Rikudo Sennin.

Hmmmm... so that makes automatically stronger? It's funny how you say when say that when people praise Hiruzen it is suddenly "unsuspecting people" but when people in a different era considered his strength fairytale, he is automatically stronger. It is funny how you stated as a a fact, Kishi changes things, Kishi would have never suspected that this would happen... now all of sudden you know what Kishi thinks and does? Until someone shows me a link that he said that Hashirama is the Strongest, I refuse to believe it.

 

[Owarij]

..when did Kabuto say there were other people on Hashiramas level?

look right in this link

there aren't any ninjas on the same level as hashirama alive anymore..
that indicates that there WERE NINJAS alive that were as strong as hashirama..

you are overating his hype

His powers seemed fairytale ish because noone ican create forests in seconds, or bring life to things... that was it...

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[Owarij]

look at the people who were called god..

s06p, nagato,

hiruzen has a title of god by ninjas.. not only iruka..

you have no idea what his power was like..

 

[slashestranged]

hiruzen sucks

 

[Raito]

look right in this link

there aren't any ninjas on the same level as hashirama alive anymore..
that indicates that there WERE NINJAS alive that were as strong as hashirama..

Do you need glasses? Where do you read out the word "alive"?

And you really think the people who gave Hiruzen that name knew about Rikudo Sennin? Kakashi and the most part of people at the conference room of the Gokage Kaidan considered him a legend, not to mention Juubi. Hiruzen's title 'God of Shinobi' hasn't any relation to Rikudo Sennin - 'fairy tail' strength on the other hand has.

 

[Professor]

You clearly did not read the whole of my thread, did you?

:shrug:


Honestly, I could not care less. I think you will find that your futile attempts to be clever are becoming more and more obvious to even the most simple of men.
:sy::sy::sy::sy:

 

[Owarij]

Do you need glasses? Where do you read out the word "alive"?

And you really think the people who gave Hiruzen that name knew about Rikudo Sennin? Kakashi and the most part of people at the conference room of the Gokage Kaidan considered him a legend, not to mention Juubi. Hiruzen's title 'God of Shinobi' hasn't any relation to Rikudo Sennin - 'fairy tail' strength on the other hand has.

the scan on a website im using says alive, and you do realize anymore indicates the same thing right?

there were people who did believe in the so6p what are you talking about .. jiraya said he was called the god of shinobi... hiruzen was called the god of shinobi... what's the confusion?so what some people didn't believe in him, point?

point is kabuto state that there WERE (past tense) ninjas who were on hashirama's level.. but they are not around anymore...

so this fairy tail hype of yours is nothing unique to hashirama because other ninjas were just as strong

 

[slashestranged]

:shrug:


Honestly, I could not care less. I think you will find that your futile attempts to be clever are becoming more and more obvious to even the most simple of men.
:sy::sy::sy::sy:

qft. plus rep

 

[Ryuu..]

:shrug:


Honestly, I could not care less. I think you will find that your futile attempts to be clever are becoming more and more obvious to even the most simple of men.
:sy::sy::sy::sy:

I gave you manga references you gave me............opinion :|

 

[Raito]

the scan on a website im using says alive, and you do realize anymore indicates the same thing right?

there were people who did believe in the so6p what are you talking about .. jiraya said he was called the god of shinobi... hiruzen was called the god of shinobi... what's the confusion?so what some people didn't believe in him, point?

point is kabuto state that there WERE (past tense) ninjas who were on hashirama's level.. but they are not around anymore...

so this fairy tail hype of yours is nothing unique to hashirama because other ninjas were just as strong

mmh, have to agree til the Manga hasn't disproved .

 

[-Vegeta-]

If Kishi's word is God then Itachi's invincible, amaterasu is as hot as the sun, Jiraiya can take down Itachi and Kisame at the same time, Minato is the strongest shinobi in Naruto(he was called unparalleled, unrivaled, and unsurpassable and it never said only during his time), and etc. I'm sorry but Kishi has contradicted himself countless times in this manga, so I strongly disagree.

I just find it funny how some people want to take Hiruzen's hype into account, but discard others. This is exactly the reason Hiruzen is so overrated.

 

[Shinozgr8]

what's all the fuss about? i swear ppl these days only go by pure hype of hashirama. just because Dan *who is unimportant and idk why he isn't dead yet* said nobody can beat madara but first hokage...probably because the third isn't alive anymore...obviously. anywho, i agree with the thread. even still, he was 60+ yet he was still stronger than A/B, the kazekage, the mizukage, ALL of them, in his old age. that says alot in itself

 

[warawar]

what did he do when the 9 teal ataked the vilge

 

[ChidoriChimp]

I always wondered why they said that, but maybe things have changed after all, I guess we can never know unless we see a fight with them all. Nice thread though.

 

[Owarij]

If Kishi's word is God then Itachi's invincible, amaterasu is as hot as the sun, Jiraiya can take down Itachi and Kisame at the same time, Minato is the strongest shinobi in Naruto(he was called unparalleled, unrivaled, and unsurpassable and it never said only during his time), and etc. I'm sorry but Kishi has contradicted himself countless times in this manga, so I strongly disagree.

I just find it funny how some people want to take Hiruzen's hype into account, but discard others. This is exactly the reason Hiruzen is so overrated.

zetsu said itachi was invincible

kishi said hiruzen was PRAISED as the strongest hokage
renown as the strongest hokage

famous for being the strongest hokage

this is the opinion of MANY characters.. not just one