[Analysis] Hashirama vs. EMS Madara [Discussion]

[Third Sage]

For gods sake when are you people gonna realize you need to know a persons abilties before you start a vs thread with them! what do u know about hashirama? he used mokuton and controlled the bijuus. you dont even know how well he controlled them or if he merely supressed their power. vs threads are a major delusion anyway

Hmm.. I actually thought I described his abilities in the first post.

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[ShishaMastah420]

Madara did not have Motukon in life.



Why does that make it wrong to say EMS Madara, a half dead rinnegan using Madara would be usesless against a Healthy Hashirama.

So pick, Health EMS or truly drained, dying Rinnegan user, with not enough chakra left to to summon a tadpole.

He obtained it shortly before he died, so there is a period between when he died and when he obtained the Rinnegan... Nonsense in combat, he wouldn't be brought back half-dead...

It is an ability he obtained! Sure he died shortly afterwards, but that is irrelevant he still obtained the ability, time/history/his capabilities doesn't stop simply because he was supposedly "Defeated" because we know better...

 

[Maunten]

He obtained it shortly before he died, so there is a period between when he died and when he obtained the Rinnegan... Nonsense in combat, he wouldn't be brought back half-dead...

It is an ability he obtained! Sure he died shortly afterwards, but that is irrelevant he still obtained the ability, time/history/his capabilities doesn't stop simply because he was supposedly "Defeated" because we know better...

He may have obtained it but he showed no feats of using advanced rinnegan techs during his life, advance rinnegan techs take a lot of chakra, they may even consume life force itself.

We have only seen EDO Madara using Rinnegan techs, so why use living Madara with Rinnegan as a match up?

Feats are feats.

Anyway I'm not so much of a Hashi vs thread supporter since we have seen very little from him also.

 

[Lentz]

Minato in top five shinobi ever?

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

i don't think madara wanted to fight hashi for his mokuton but for the senju dna
i think kabuto gave him the mokuton the same way he did danzo

You mean Orochimaru giving Danzo the mokuton.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

He may have obtained it but he showed no feats of using advanced rinnegan techs during his life, advance rinnegan techs take a lot of chakra, they may even consume life force itself.

We have only seen EDO Madara using Rinnegan techs, so why use living Madara with Rinnegan as a match up?

Feats are feats.

Anyway I'm not so much of a Hashi vs thread supporter since we have seen very little from him also.

Feats are Feats and Abilities are Abilities; And one of Uchiha Madara's abilities is the Rinnegan.

 

[Third Sage]

Minato in top five shinobi ever?

Nope, top ten, i'd say.

Feats are Feats and Abilities are Abilities; And one of Uchiha Madara's abilities is the Rinnegan.

Sure are, but Rinnegan is irrelevant in this thread, so..