An interesting fact about Arima

[Byron123]

So guys I won't go into detail but I will just copy paste the theory, there is a movie called "Ringing Bell", look it up on wikipedia so you can understand the parallelisms.

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"This is one of the illustrations that were given to the winners of the previous Character Popularity Poll + Illustration Contest. This one is featuring Arima Kishou during his high school days and the text says:

I will not lose.

I will become stronger than the wolves."
"I think Arima = Chirin… The sheep that shared a similarity with Chirin would be Haise (Kaneki sharing same birthdays with Arima suggested that they might have similar experiences or mirroring personalities).

But as for who the wolf is, it might be someone else not introduced in the story yet, maybe Arima was “raised” by a half-ghoul (since the wolf had a scar over one eye)?

I don’t really think that the wolf is the CCG… at least so far in the story I don’t think so, because in Ringing Bell, Chirin fights with the wolf over sparing the sheep and that’s when Chirin killed the wolf. Whereas it doesn’t seem as if the chairperson had any disagreement with Arima about Kaneki / Haise. Of course looking at the CCG as a whole though, there are members who don’t really like Haise, but it doesn’t seem like there’s really an issue with Arima and the others because of Haise. Perhaps there will be… but as of now nope.

I’m also thinking that the wolf = ghoul / half-ghoul or some sort? That Arima wanted revenge because his family / friends were killed? (If CCG = wolf then Arima is a ghoul who wanted to exact revenge on the CCG?)

“Seeking revenge, he must become like the very thing he wishes to destroy, and he must venture far beyond the safety his home and childhood into the wilderness to seek the fearsome Wolf King.”

(Wolf King = OEK??? idek anymore)

Then again it’s not like Arima’s story will be an exact parallel with Ringing Bell so it’s hard to say.

BUT WOW, ISHIDA-SENSEI. THIS IS IMPRESSIVE"

 

[Agent Phrank]

From the wiki:
"Ringing Bell starts off as a children's film, but quickly merges into a darkly-toned story of the laws of nature and revenge. It has also been viewed in the past as a cautionary tale about venturing away from home, non-conformity and revenge."

I can see a similar theme in TG. Poor Kaneki is just your average college student- nearly gets killed by a love interest, and is now adapting as a half-ghoul in a human society. Extreme non-conformity is the shared theme. Revenge? not so much.

This is how I interpret it:
Chirin: Sasaki (innocent and oblivious)
Wolf: Rise

Chirin becomes furious and charges at him. After a brief fight, Chirin impales the wolf on his horns. The wolf expresses his gratitude and pride for Chirin, and dies

The wolf (who killed Chirin's mother) expresses gratitude after being killed? hmm

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Other sheep=ghouls

The nameless sheep on the farm are timid creatures who offer Chirin no comfort or support when his mother is killed.

I see it resonating more with Franz Kafka's "Metamorphosis" which has been alluded multiple times in the manga.
a guy wakes up as a large insect-> can only eat trash and raw cheese -> how to adapt?

 

[Byron123]

From the wiki:
"Ringing Bell starts off as a children's film, but quickly merges into a darkly-toned story of the laws of nature and revenge. It has also been viewed in the past as a cautionary tale about venturing away from home, non-conformity and revenge."

I can see a similar theme in TG. Poor Kaneki is just your average college student- nearly gets killed by a love interest, and is now adapting as a half-ghoul in a human society. Extreme non-conformity is the shared theme. Revenge? not so much.

This is how I interpret it:
Chirin: Sasaki (innocent and oblivious)
Wolf: Rise

The wolf (who killed Chirin's mother) expresses gratitude after being killed? hmm

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Other sheep=ghouls

I see it resonating more with Franz Kafka's "Metamorphosis" which has been alluded multiple times in the manga.
a guy wakes up as a large insect-> can only eat trash and raw cheese -> how to adapt?

There is sense in what you're saying, however you lose the point here. This is not about Haise so much but Arima. The fact that Ishida took the phrase "I'll get stronger than the wolves" and used it as something Arima said means that he puts Arima in the place of that sheep whose mother was killed by a wolf which makes me wonder: did Arima really join CCG as the sheep who had to surpass the wolf aka CCG?


Then again, Arima said to Haise in the past that he must surpass him so if Arima is considered the wolf because he defeated Ken and snatched away his identity, we could say that Haise is indeed the sheep who has to surpass the wolf aka Arima.

 

[Agent Phrank]

There is sense in what you're saying, however you lose the point here. This is not about Haise so much but Arima. The fact that Ishida took the phrase "I'll get stronger than the wolves" and used it as something Arima said means that he puts Arima in the place of that sheep whose mother was killed by a wolf which makes me wonder: did Arima really join CCG as the sheep who had to surpass the wolf aka CCG?


Then again, Arima said to Haise in the past that he must surpass him so if Arima is considered the wolf because he defeated Ken and snatched away his identity, we could say that Haise is indeed the sheep who has to surpass the wolf aka Arima.

I agree on both sides, it's a matter of perspective, I suppose. You do have a point about the Wolf comment.
It is also a bit too much to extrapolate these parallels from a short story (cautionary tale).

On a similar note, Ishida has definitely been influenced by many authors/stories and he's alluded to some.

Dragons of Blueland:

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Metamorphosis:

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Herman Hesse:

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Silence of the lambs (look at the poster on the left side, next to the mask)

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here's the poster to compare:

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The Restaurant of Many Orders:

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Lots of different parallels to choose from- and these are the obvious ones.