An actual plot hole.

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Madara uses izanagi to escape death but still has wounds to transplant hashi DNA in to? Someone explain this.
 

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I have no idea about this.
 

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Maybe it works even when he had it in its mouth
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Common sense deficiency detected.
See, Izanagi alters reality according to what Madara wants. And Madara wanted to come back with wounds to transplant Hashi's flesh into. Simple. Never said he had to come back perfect.
 

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I understand wanting to solo my thread but there was no reason to be so Rude about it.
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See, Izanagi alters reality according to what Madara wants. And Madara wanted to come back with wounds to transplant Hashi's flesh into. Simple. Never said he had to come back perfect.
 

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It might be a bit early to call plot hole.

We don't really know what happened with Madara coming back. There are all sorts of problems thet need to be explained and that I'm sure will be explained in due course. The biggest is how or where he got the extra eyes he would have needed to use Izanagi, create the Rinnegan and then still have one left at the end of it.

As far as coming back with wounds - it seems as though Madara read the Naka Shrine Tablet, had the idea (implanted by BZ) to combine Senju and Uchiha and then plotted a way of stealing some of Hashirama's DNA involving time released clones.

It's not entirely clear whether he was brought back to life or just was reanimated. His limbo technique references an old religious idea of a space between heaven and hell where those who are not guilty but have not done anything to warrant getting into heaven (people whose sins and virtues are balanced or babies who die before they do anything for instance) end up.I'm interested to see whether he will come back and redeem himself (some grand scheme to save the Uchiha…that sorta thing). I wouldn't be surprised to see the Uchiha all revived from those Sharingan that Itachi collected under Madara and Obito's orders.
 

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See, Izanagi alters reality according to what Madara wants. And Madara wanted to come back with wounds to transplant Hashi's flesh into. Simple. Never said he had to come back perfect.

Too long didnt read? "Hey look at me, im trying to act smart blahblehblahbleh"
 

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Izangi can be manipulated by its user just like izanami can be use to alter Izangi... Izangi make d user b in control of the opponent destiny on battlefield e.g fight of danzo vs sasuke.. So it's possible for madara to come out with wound in his fight with the first hokage and it's seems if the user of Izangi or izanami has awaken der EMS der blind sight will restore after some time
 

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He had wounds before he activated izanagi..
 

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See, Izanagi alters reality according to what Madara wants. And Madara wanted to come back with wounds to transplant Hashi's flesh into. Simple. Never said he had to come back perfect.

Izangi can be manipulated by its user just like izanami can be use to alter Izangi... Izangi make d user b in control of the opponent destiny on battlefield e.g fight of danzo vs sasuke.. So it's possible for madara to come out with wound in his fight with the first hokage and it's seems if the user of Izangi or izanami has awaken der EMS der blind sight will restore after some time

Lol right, and whilst he was dead he was commanding the Izanagi what to do, right?

OP: I think that it ran out of the time limit or used as much chakra as it could before running out so it only reversed so much?
 

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izanagi didn't phucking get rid of the whole phucking battle. It just made it so that his death was averted
 

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everyone just loves to phucking cry "plothole" don't they
 

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It's not too complicated. Izanagi only undoes the most recent damage done before it was activated. Like when obito used it he still had damage done to his mask etc because that happened prior to using the Izanagi. Madara still had all the wounds prior to the stab in the back that killed him.
 

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Well, I guess what the above posts are right. It depends if you want all or some of the wounds healed, Just like how obito was missing an arm even after using izanagi....
 

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There won't be just one wound on his whole body.
 

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Not a plot hole, let me explain.

Izanagi works by altering reality to the liking and thoughts of the user, making imagination into reality. Now this jutsu does not create a new reality, it simple alters the already existing reality to fit their needs. Meaning that for this jutsu to work, the user would have to know the reality before altering it. This is why the jutsu only activates after the user has been hit.

Now Madara "programmed" his eye to cast Izanagi after his death, meaning he wasn't alive to see the reality in which he existed. However, he knew one thing about that reality and that was that he would be dead. For him to heal all his wounds with the Izanagi, he would need to know the exact location of them as well as how they were shaped and how deep they were. (A Shinobi like Madara can probably figure this out when they are inflicted by the wounds.) Another thing, it also seems like Izanagi can only alter reality of things that has just happen. It can only alter the present, not the past or future.

 

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Not a plot hole, let me explain.

Izanagi works by altering reality to the liking and thoughts of the user, making imagination into reality. Now this jutsu does not create a new reality, it simple alters the already existing reality to fit their needs. Meaning that for this jutsu to work, the user would have to know the reality before altering it. This is why the jutsu only activates after the user has been hit.

Now Madara "programmed" his eye to cast Izanagi after his death, meaning he wasn't alive to see the reality in which he existed. However, he knew one thing about that reality and that was that he would be dead. For him to heal all his wounds with the Izanagi, he would need to know the exact location of them as well as how they were shaped and how deep they were. (A Shinobi like Madara can probably figure this out when they are inflicted by the wounds.) Another thing, it also seems like Izanagi can only alter reality of things that has just happen. It can only alter the present, not the past or future.


I think the above pretty much solves the thread entirely. Nice effort. :)
 
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