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what, um, exactly do you mean by this? you're referring to it as a social concept or?

That the idea of people being represented evenly in anything(even if equality of opportunity was possible) isn't something that has ever been seen on this earth yet is talked about as if it is.
 

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That the idea of people being represented evenly in anything(even if equality of opportunity was possible) isn't something that has ever been seen on this earth yet is talked about as if it is.
when people refer to equality i think both sides are frequently mislead and have different visions on what, precisely, that entails and largely all depends on what equality you're referencing in particular

another thing is there you're right, there is no such thing as absolute equality, but when you're discussing it on a societal level it kind of changes things. it varies
 

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I think the definition of racism didn't mean physical characteristics, obviously other races have different characteristics physically.

One example, skin colour. :sdo:

Now how does having a nose that's adapted to the cold, or the savanna equate to inequality? They're both just adaptations to the environment.

It's outright false to say one race is smarter than the other as all have been shown to do well given the same opportunities. So what is there that's unequal?

The definition of racism that I think you were referring was "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races".

So even if it was addressing physical characteristics, it shows that there are different levels of racism when it says especially so.

So yeah, maybe everyone is racist to an extent, but we still have a limit that's socially acceptable. The line for me is the bold and that's what you cross.

Do you even know how we divide power in today's globalized world? You're always talking as if only one race can be on top. That's idiotic as we don't even use a system that revolves around race. It's nothing more than a dumb gang mentality.

1. Differing physical characteristics make it less likely that mental equality is true(it's obviously untrue but in terms of convincing you people). If physical inequality is obviously true, why would anyone believe in mental equality? What evidence supports mental equality?

2. according to wikipedia research into race and IQ his highly debated. So no it isn't "outright false"

3. Division of power in the world is based on race. In any given country people who are successful in droves do their best to help out their own people. In most cases the majority is the holder of that power(some exceptions of underachieving majorities exist)


An example is here in America the Idea of white privilege. The Idea that white people are less likely to be harassed by police ties directly into the high likelihood that white people will encounter one another
 

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1. Differing physical characteristics make it less likely that mental equality is true(it's obviously untrue but in terms of convincing you people). If physical inequality is obviously true, why would anyone believe in mental equality? What evidence supports mental equality?

2. according to wikipedia research into race and IQ his highly debated. So no it isn't "outright false"

3. Division of power in the world is based on race. In any given country people who are successful in droves do their best to help out their own people. In most cases the majority is the holder of that power(some exceptions of underachieving majorities exist)


An example is here in America the Idea of white privilege. The Idea that white people are less likely to be harassed by police ties directly into the high likelihood that white people will encounter one another

Regardless, the difference of physical ability is not that great, so if we did have different IQs based on race it wouldn't be great either. Do you mean to tell me when people compete in things you pick your bet based on race (I'll give you track, lol)? Okay, and let's say you're right and equality is fake.

What do you expect from us? Do you want us to be able to look down on other human beings based on race. Do you wanna reinstate slavery? I seriously don't know what you want by saying equality is fake.

Guess what? Freedom is as fake as equality but I always see people saying that's the most important thing to them. Should we forget about freedom in its entirety?
 
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Regardless, the difference of physical ability is not that great, so if we did have different IQs based on race it wouldn't be great either. Do you mean to tell me when people compete in things you pick your bet based on race (I'll give you track, lol)? Okay, and let's say you're right and equality is fake.

What do you expect from us? Do you want us to be able to look down on other human beings based on race. Do you wanna reinstate slavery? I seriously don't know what you want by saying equality is fake.

Guess what? Freedom is as fake as equality but I always see people saying that's the most important thing to them. Should we forget about freedom in its entirety?

our freedom is indeed fake, but freedom isn't fake. Equality will never be reached, freedom can be reached, just isn't really desirable for society to become true.

The difference in physical characteristics is tremendous. My resistance to sickle cell anemia is just one example of the vastness of the inequality of human biology. We really aren't the same in any way.


I'm just fascinated by hypocrisy. The hypocrisy of admitting black athletic superiority, while evading evidence of other ethnicities preforming better intellectually is all but ignored fascinates me. The assumption that if we could somehow do away with inequality of birth, we would get equality of results.

This is an obsession of my life because it's being used as an ammunition to steal from my people without any shred of evidence being asked for or provided.
 

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our freedom is indeed fake, but freedom isn't fake. Equality will never be reached, freedom can be reached, just isn't really desirable for society to become true.

The difference in physical characteristics is tremendous. My resistance to sickle cell anemia is just one example of the vastness of the inequality of human biology. We really aren't the same in any way.


I'm just fascinated by hypocrisy. The hypocrisy of admitting black athletic superiority, while evading evidence of other ethnicities preforming better intellectually is all but ignored fascinates me. The assumption that if we could somehow do away with inequality of birth, we would get equality of results.

This is an obsession of my life because it's being used as an ammunition to steal from my people without any shred of evidence being asked for or provided.

You're a deplorable human-being. You give a bad name to all white people and I am sick knowing that you're part of my race.

You're no brother of mine.
 

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You're a deplorable human-being. You give a bad name to all white people and I am sick knowing that you're part of my race.

You're no brother of mine.

you have no loyalty, you were never a brother of mine
 

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You don't even know what loyalty is. You're selfish and hateful.

I have loyalty to my people. I can see the world is harsh. Instead of creating a dream world, I realize that until the day I die people will be broken up by race. Other people are allowed to do whats best for their race. Why can't I?
 

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our freedom is indeed fake, but freedom isn't fake. Equality will never be reached, freedom can be reached, just isn't really desirable for society to become true.

The difference in physical characteristics is tremendous. My resistance to sickle cell anemia is just one example of the vastness of the inequality of human biology. We really aren't the same in any way.


I'm just fascinated by hypocrisy. The hypocrisy of admitting black athletic superiority, while evading evidence of other ethnicities preforming better intellectually is all but ignored fascinates me. The assumption that if we could somehow do away with inequality of birth, we would get equality of results.

This is an obsession of my life because it's being used as an ammunition to steal from my people without any shred of evidence being asked for or provided.
Actually true freedom is still not free if you take away the laws of the government. I don't believe in black athletic superiority much, other than that they are slightly faster in some cases. I wouldn't bet my money in a race just because the guy is black. Indeed there is a hypocrisy in certain cases but intellect is a really different issue.

We really aren't the same in anyway!? What? Are you completely ignoring everything humans have in common? And all that is, is the abiltity for humans to adapt. Don't think you're better than the black people because you're immune to sickle, lol.

I would never bet that a white guy is smarter than a black purely on skin. The kids who do well in class all have one thing in common. They study. Discipline is big in Asian and brown culture which is why we study more and do better. Sadly, black culture in the states doesn't entirely encourage this but that's not always the case and culture is defined by history not our race. Plus I think intellect is a more sensitive issue as being more athletic is not a big deal as intellect.


Equality at birth does give equality as a result, it's common sense. Are you kidding me?


Ammunition to steal from your people? Give me a real example.
 

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I have loyalty to my people. I can see the world is harsh. Instead of creating a dream world, I realize that until the day I die people will be broken up by race. Other people are allowed to do whats best for their race. Why can't I?

Lynching a black people isn't loyalty to one's race.
 

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People have more empathy these days. Going for the best of all humanity is becoming more common. If that means not being loyal to you, you need to reevaluate your life.
 

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I have loyalty to my people. I can see the world is harsh. Instead of creating a dream world, I realize that until the day I die people will be broken up by race. Other people are allowed to do whats best for their race. Why can't I?

Treating people with respect and based on character is asking for a dream world? You sound like a lazy pessimist that settles for less.
 

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Lynching a black people isn't loyalty to one's race.
There is a vast canyon between wanting the best for my people, and killing others.
People have more empathy these days. Going for the best of all humanity is becoming more common. If that means not being loyal to you, you need to reevaluate your life.

Not true at all. People are more divided now than ever.

NAACP,BLM, Feminism, LGBT groups, are all allowed to only represent one cause, their cause.


Because I represent white males suddenly I need to represent all humans? NAH I Only fight for my people's advancement as others are permitted to do.

The allowance of other groups to fight for only themselves can only lead to anti-white sentiment.
 

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Treating people with respect and based on character is asking for a dream world? You sound like a lazy pessimist that settles for less.

point out where I said discriminate.


Its a cliche, but some of my best friends are non-white. But they have their own causes to support them. I support me
 

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There is a vast canyon between wanting the best for my people, and killing others.


Not true at all. People are more divided now than ever.

NAACP,BLM, Feminism, LGBT groups, are all allowed to only represent one cause, their cause.


Because I represent white males suddenly I need to represent all humans? NAH I Only fight for my people's advancement as others are permitted to do.

The allowance of other groups to fight for only themselves can only lead to anti-white sentiment.
What are you representing white males for? All you're doing is complaining about those groups complaining.

I get annoyed when people complain about the mythical gender gap in salary or exaggerate about numbers of sexual assaults on women. Even Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam sells garbage too. Or when black people complain it's impossible to get out of their situation because of the system when it's not. But come on, you're obsessing over nothing and only preaching hate as well at this point. Just because those groups can be selfish doesn't mean you have too. Just fight for common sense and 'your people' and others should be fine.
 

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point out where I said discriminate.


Its a cliche, but some of my best friends are non-white. But they have their own causes to support them. I support me

Like Bacillus said, that's racism. And you've been trying to prove you're racist by definition, so it wouldn't be odd for me to thinknyou were implying that. Sorry for the second double post.
 

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Because I represent white males suddenly I need to represent all humans? NAH I Only fight for my people's advancement as others are permitted to do.
you complain about segregation, yet, here you are condoning it to create some political statement to go against the grain

this defeats the purpose of your position
 
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