America is looking at removing the 2nd amednment.

[HiraishinFTG]

every one always says that if they didn't have guns they would just get something else but honestly they don't know that for sure people are much more inclined to get something out int he open easy like a gun just lying in a case then to go searching for and in the black market.Secondly if they remove the second amendment which it needs to be removed cause no one needs a gun except cops it would be removed cause it needed to they don't just go around removing amendments for no reason honestly and if you had a kid die in a school cause of some idiot having guns for protection and her son shot your kid dead would you honestly still be fro this stupid amendment and yes ik guns don't kill people people kill people but guns make it far too easy for them to do it.The ids always find the guns always don't even consider trying to hid them cause they find them.guns are a stupid and unneccesarry thing cause they can easily be used against you and its a eak argument to say dont remove the amendment cause they will remove more cause if thats the case remove them all if thats what its gonna take to get guns off the streets for good,drugs should get removed from streets too.

If you're gonna present the right opinion, at least speak coherently! Jk . However you made some good points and some not so good ones. I agree w/ you that these psycho idiots who kill people (for the most part) don't have the money or honestly the intelligence to go searching around on the black market. It is very likely they would not have the necessary connections.

 

[DietyOfWind]

no i'm saying you cant own a gun because it can be used against you against your child against my familily or who ever else they want to target because its a dangerous weapon that no one has business having your child could easily find it and shoot you with it everyone would call it a tragedy but the reality would be cause you were too stupid to find another way to defend your self you never want a gun in your house ever because it is always a double edged sword cuts both ways and even if you do defend yourself with it the first think the cops will do is a thourough investigation taking the weapon away in wich case you could get attacked again unarmed and could die anyway guns are fricking point less period and banning them would make them and their ammo more expensive on the black market since they would not be readily availiable everywhere.If the government put a 5000 fine for every bullet shot into a person then see how fast people would stop.

 

[Sir Blades]

Your a fool if you think it'll be harder to obtain it. Marijuana is illegal yet I can go down the street in my high middle class neighborhood and get some. Same goes for cocaine, LSD ect. Law abiding citizens will not have guns and criminals will. Look at mexico and tell me again a ban will make getting those weapons harder.

stop with the mexico crap. over 70% of ammo and guns are in-ported illegally from the U.S. that just tells how much of a gun problem the U.S. has.

 

[drknght]

Don't you think that's a bit over the top? I'm a woman, but I don't view every man as a threat. Some guys know how to use their stuff the right way.

The same way not everyone is taking their gun and shoot random people on the street. That's exactly right my dear.

 

[Robot Boy]

As a black man who has lived in the ghetto all of my 25 years of life i will say this. I have a 4yr old so my heart goes out to the parents and relatives. For whites this is tragic but for me it's the norm coming from a lower income community. If they banned guns, i would bet the food out my child's mouth it won't change a damn thing. I have seen more gangsters and sicko's than most folk (depending on where u folks live). Bad people don't follow the law in the first place so what makes you think they will start if you banned it?

The reality is bad people do not care about what amendment goes or law's that pass, they live by completely different rules. I understand most of you people are afraid, and that's perfectly fine. But to use your fear to dictate how another man or woman should be protected is plain wrong. If you feel like you don't need a gun then simply don't buy one, but to say ban something based on your fear is unfair to others.

Not to be funny but where i come from people say if your scared "Get a dog". Most white dudes who go out and kill, use mommy and daddy gun, black dudes for the most by them from the blackmarket (ironic lol) Personally i know how criminals think i use to gang bang, and commit petty crimes (never arrested, went to college) All you will do is ensure that a criminals job will be easier and guns will go for even cheaper on the black market.

Honestly there is no solution, crime is almost always a instant action. Which is why no one puts faith in cops, they are not the flash or superman. We can blame games, movies, the internet all we want, the fact is that we are violent by nature and will always be. But for the most part the larger part of society can control those urges. I will end this by saying id rather not have to knife fight another to the bitter end nor shoot a guy for that matter. But i will be damned if you tell me i can not own a gun cause you don't want one. R.I.P to children!

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This. The most reasonable response I have seen and not only that the man is speaking from experience.

 

[Lt Fresh]

Thats impossible completely unconstitutional

 

[DietyOfWind]

you wont find solutions if you dont try if everyone had the guns taken from them since it was illegal via the government then no one would really get away with shooting people honestly i'm at the point where i wouldnt mind if they started hanging people for having them cause all guns do is threaten other peples familys cause of selfish people thinking its gonna protect them

 

[Rasenloki]

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This. The most reasonable response I have seen and not only that the man is speaking from experience.

Thank you bro, i am just talking what i been around all my life.

 

[Rasenloki]

you wont find solutions if you dont try if everyone had the guns taken from them since it was illegal via the government then no one would really get away with shooting people honestly i'm at the point where i wouldnt mind if they started hanging people for having them cause all guns do is threaten other peples familys cause of selfish people thinking its gonna protect them

You must not have much experience with gun violence huh? or people who just love to fight and shoot shit up huh? i am from NYC also brooklyn east NY. Your saying use violence like hangings as a way to curb violence? people don't care about life in jail or the death penalty of the states that have them already. Hangings would only upset the black community and bring us back to whites vs blacks all over again. Like i stated in my previous post, there is no real solution, besides teaching these kids young. I am a old 25 in these streets. And most of these kids like myself needed a better home life and and a father around. i commend you on wanting to curb violence but i think your logic is twisted.

 

[DietyOfWind]

i gave a mega ton of reasons why to get rid of guns the for guns side gave one reason for protection and cause they say you cant stop guns but people don't even try to honestly. I dont understand people mindsets why they would ever have guns around their young kids.

 

[Robot Boy]

Thank you bro, i am just talking what i been around all my life.

No prob bro.
@DietyOfWind -> if you don't think a gun can't keep you safe thats your problem. Frankly I think a gun can keep me safe and my loved ones and I'm not stupid or irresponsible to let someone use it against me or let my kid get his grubby hands on it. You sir, severly underestimate me as an American. Hell even other proud gun owners who have never misused they're guns or take their eyes off it allow that to happen. Plus they have training for scenerios that you mentioned so they can be prepared for it. What do you think all Americans are stupid and are inept, incapable of protecting themselves? Don't let what a few who have misused this privilege cloud your perception. I don't see why the rest of us have to be punished for what a few did.And don't perverse the word "protect" because that is offensive.

 

[DietyOfWind]

LMAO right my logic is twisted you own a gun around a 4 year old child and you say my logic is twisted.You have no guarrente that that gun wont be used to kill you or someone else or even if you will get to shoot him before he shoots you if they regulate them or completely ban them then fewer people /almost no people would die by shooting every day.And how does hangings target black people white people go around shooting people too that was a stupid comment on your part this isn't about whites vs blacks so don't turn it into racism out of nowhere.Guns are weapons and people shouldn't be carrying them.You wouldn't walk around carrying a macheti then don't walk around carrying a gun.

 

[Robot Boy]

LMAO right my logic is twisted you own a gun around a 4 year old child and you say my logic is twisted.You have no guarrente that that gun wont be used to kill you or someone else or even if you will get to shoot him before he shoots you if they regulate them or completely ban them then fewer people /almost no people would die by shooting every day.And how does hangings target black people white people go around shooting people too that was a stupid comment on your part this isn't about whites vs blacks so don't turn it into racism out of nowhere.Guns are weapons and people shouldn't be carrying them.You wouldn't walk around carrying a macheti then don't walk around carrying a gun.

Don't tell what to do GOT IT!!! Don't tell what I can and can't carry.

 

[DietyOfWind]

LMAO pervers the word protect thats bs anyone who owns a gun calls it protection but protection doesn't end in someone offensively killing the other protecting would mean subdued those who own guns and call bullets protection are the preverse honestly guns are not protection and there is absolutely no way you can prevent another person from using yours on you doesn't matter what scenario you use there is always an easy and fast way for them to get it.And if you hind it in plain sight your kids could get it.

 

[UniversalPain]

You're being very naive if you do not think that guns are a major part of the problem. In my opinion all of these nra gun nuts are only trying to protect their pride. I am a licensed gun owner and have my conceal carry permit and I am in no way biased towards less gun restrictions. I also admit that our restrictions on firearms is lacking horribly and believe it plays a big role in how these lunatics are able to get their hands on guns. I know that this lanza kid stole the weapons from his mother but alot of these shootings are done by lunatics who were able to legally purchase the weapons. Its true that these people would have tried to find other ways of causing harm had they not of been able to get the guns but the fact remains that them having the weapons made them far more efficient at causing the harm that they did. There is no valid argument against tighter restrictions on firearms. There is no reason for ANYONE to own an assault weapon be it fully automatic or semi automatic. A pistol or shotgun should be all that ANY civilian is legally able to carry. The second amendmant was written when guns took almost a minutue to load, were highly inaccurate, and when we were fighting for our independance from britain. That was over 200 years ago! Conditions that are not at all comparable with todays. The fact remains and can't be argued that these nra gun nuts are only protecting their pride. There are criminals out there who are legally able to purchase guns and who do so regularly to illegally sell them to criminals who otherwise couldn't get them legally. So an assault weapons ban would make it harder for them to obtain them from other lunatics who are legally able to buy the guns.

 

[DietyOfWind]

God i will be cheering if they ban guns and shatter that stupid and unecessary second amendment and anyone who has anything to say other wise should feel guilty cause people like you are the reason why those poor kids died cause of your precious ''protection''.

 

[Robot Boy]

LMAO pervers the word protect thats bs anyone who owns a gun calls it protection but protection doesn't end in someone offensively killing the other protecting would mean subdued those who own guns and call bullets protection are the preverse honestly guns are not protection and there is absolutely no way you can prevent another person from using yours on you doesn't matter what scenario you use there is always an easy and fast way for them to get it.And if you hind it in plain sight your kids could get it.

You think you got me figured out...but, your wrong.You don't know me at all. What I do....What I think..nothing.
@UniversalPain - naive..right back at you. I stick to what I believe.

 

[DietyOfWind]

as great as this is it doesnt solve the main problem of lones getting them from their parents

 

[DietyOfWind]

You think you got me figured out...but, your wrong.You don't know me at all. What I do....What I think..nothing.

i dont need to know you or how you are or how you think all i know is that you support people with guns when all they do is kill with delousions that you will be able to get to it before an intruder,even worse if you have kids. People like you fang are what make it easy for people to take guns from others to go and slaughter others it wont matter how strict they make guns till their banned. It far too easy for people to get guns as it is and taking it from others makes it far easier and with all the myan calendar nuts thinking the world will end and i bet that the school was just the start i bet more nutjobs are probably gonna attack soon too probably with more guns.

 

[7PointOh]

God i will be cheering if they ban guns and shatter that stupid and unecessary second amendment and anyone who has anything to say other wise should feel guilty cause people like you are the reason why those poor kids died cause of your precious ''protection''.

I'm not countering your points on guns and the evil uses that can be done with them. If the government repeals the 2nd Amendment, this will be the first time that something in the Bill of Rights has been repealed. It gives precedent to take away other rights that we have. First our right to bear arms. Then it could be our freedom of speech. Where does it stop?