Ambush Squad VS Hebi Sasuke

Who wins: Hebi Sasuke or the Ambush Squad

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Sai, Omoi and Kankuro VS Hebi Sasuke

Location
The genearl area where the ambush squad battled Sasori and Deidara

Starting Distance
25 m

Knowledge
The ambush squad: have knowledge on sharingan and its abilities.

Sasuke: Has knowledge that Kankuro is a puppet user, Sai creates beasts using ink and Omoi uses a raiton enhanced blade.

Reasoning for Match Up
I made this match up because I realized that these three (with full knowledge) defeated a non serious Deidara (without knowledge) with only low-mid difficulty on their own. Sasuke (without knowledge) was able to defeat Deidara (with knowledge), while trying to interrogate him, with high difficulty.

3 tomoe Sasuke has already beat Sai with low difficulty but now he has two others backing him up. Sasuke can also summon Manda so keep that under consideration.
 
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I personally think Sasuke wins if not stomps, judging from the recent Sasuke perception around here I highly doubt many will agree with me, but yeah lol.
 

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I think Omoi could beat Suigetsu. He has lightning(which is Suigetsus weakness) and is sharp with sword. Juugo has power but he is not that smart especially when he enters CS2, so he could get Kankuros poison. It remains Sai vs Sasuke. People will actually say that Sasuke managed to put him in a genjutsu in their first meeting, so he wins, but i'm pretty sure Sai will be more careful now, so he won't be caught so easily by his genjutsu. We've seen that he has a great shunshin jutsu when he defeated Deidara and Sasori, but at the end i still see Sasuke winning by outsmarting him just like Deidara and i think Deidara was better as a long range fighter than Sai. After that, don't know, it could go either way, but Sasuke could possibly manage to take this
 

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I personally think Sasuke wins if not stomps, judging from the recent Sasuke perception around here I highly doubt many will agree with me, but yeah lol.
Why what type of Sasuke perception do we have here? Why is this a stomp in your opinion, is it because of Manda?
I think Omoi could beat Suigetsu. He has lightning(which is Suigetsus weakness) and is sharp with sword. Juugo has power but he is not that smart especially when he enters CS2, so he could get Kankuros poison. It remains Sai vs Sasuke. People will actually say that Sasuke managed to put him in a genjutsu in their first meeting, so he wins, but i'm pretty sure Sai will be more careful now, so he won't be caught so easily by his genjutsu. We've seen that he has a great shunshin jutsu when he defeated Deidara and Sasori, but at the end i still see Sasuke winning by outsmarting him just like Deidara and i think Deidara was better as a long range fighter than Sai. After that, don't know, it could go either way, but Sasuke could possibly manage to take this
This is Sasuke alone. If I added the rest of team Hebi, then no doubt this battle would go to Sasuke's team.
 

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Why what type of Sasuke perception do we have here? Why is this a stomp in your opinion, is it because of Manda?

This is Sasuke alone. If I added the rest of team Hebi, then no doubt this battle would go to Sasuke's team.
Oh yeah, it's not really too much Sasuke perception but Kimimaro overrating especially in that one thread, but literally no NB thread is unanimous no matter how ridiculous the outcome so not like it matters lol.

Not necessarily because of Manda, but Manda's still powerful enoiugh to make it a stomp.
 

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I don't see how they'll harm Sasuke. Omoi is a close-range type and seems rather unexperienced, so he'll most likely end up being taken out by Jagei Jubaku, like Suigetsu and Juugo. If not he'll be taken out by Genjutsu.

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But, to be honest, I see the rest of them falling for Genjutsu just as easily. Hebi Sasuke proved that he's no rookie in that area several times already, for instance against Orochimaru, Deidara and Itachi. Kankuro's puppets shouldn't pose too much of a threat, either, considering that Sasuke's Chidori enhanced Kusanagi was able to cut even through metal. For protection he can summon snakes at any time, like demonstrated against Deidara's bombs or Itachi's Kunai. Not to mention his ability to fly or Orochimaru's rebirth technique.

If all that, combined with his extraordinary skills and mastery of Chidori shouldn't be enough, he can still summon Manda and most likely various more huge snakes to aid him.
 
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I don't know. I'll usually go for a bigger group over a single person since Naruto's not like DBZ, but Sasuke was able to beat team 7 pretty easily, however 2 of the ambush squad are skilled jonin, but then again Sasuke has manda. Hmm I'll go with Sasuke but with high diff, low diff with Manda.
 

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Oh yeah, it's not really too much Sasuke perception but Kimimaro overrating especially in that one thread, but literally no NB thread is unanimous no matter how ridiculous the outcome so not like it matters lol.

Not necessarily because of Manda, but Manda's still powerful enoiugh to make it a stomp.
What if I add Temari and Neji as well?
I don't see how they'll harm Sasuke. Omoi is a close-range type and seems rather unexperienced, so he'll most likely end up being taken out by Jagei Jubaku, like Suigetsu and Juugo. If not he'll be taken out by Genjutsu.

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But, to be honest, I see the rest of them falling for Genjutsu just as easily. Hebi Sasuke proved that he's no rookie in that area several times already, for instance against Orochimaru, Deidara and Itachi. Kankuro's puppets shouldn't pose too much of a threat, either, considering that Sasuke's Chidori enhanced Kusanagi was able to cut even through metal. For protection he can summon snakes at any time, like demonstrated against Deidara's bombs or Itachi's Kunai. Not to mention his ability to fly or Orochimaru's rebirth technique.

If all that, combined with his extraordinary skills and mastery of Chidori shouldn't be enough, he can still summon Manda and most likely various more huge snakes to aid him.
Yeah I also see Sasuke pulling this off. His kenjutsu skills imo surpass Sai and Omoi. Kankuro is the biggest threat here with long range attacks and clever battle tactics but Sasuke is a slightly better tactician than him imo. Thanks for pointing out Sasuke's Jagei Jubaku because I did not know that name. Anyway yes he probably will be taken out like that and then he summons Manda to take Kankuro. Then Sasuke man handles Sai pretty easily.
I don't know. I'll usually go for a bigger group over a single person since Naruto's not like DBZ, but Sasuke was able to beat team 7 pretty easily, however 2 of the ambush squad are skilled jonin, but then again Sasuke has manda. Hmm I'll go with Sasuke but with high diff, low diff with Manda.
I guess what you said makes sense but don't you think either Kankuro or Sai can beat Manda?

Here is my opinion on how the fight will play out:

Kankuro will take charge as the leader of his team because he has good leadership capabilities. He will order them to approach Sasuke cautiously and don't look into his eyes. Omoi will be like what if I forget and do look into his eyes? What will happen to me?!?!?! Sai already has some experience fighting Sasuke so he could summon a lot of different beasts to fight Sasuke. Sasuke will easily take those beasts out with chidori just like how he took out Deidara's clay beasts.

Kankuro could trap Sasuke but Sasuke should be able to escape the puppets if that is to happen to him by using chidori to cut them. Kankuro's poisoned projectiles may not do much against Sasuke because of Sasuke's defence against poison. Kankuro's Sasori puppet's fire style can be countered by Sasuke's own or anticipated and dodged by sharingan. Kankuro's water gun will douse Sasuke's fire so Sasuke will have trouble using his katons as long as Kankuro's Sasori puppet is not destroyed.

I think Sasuke would destroy that puppet and it all goes downhill for Kankuro. Like Flori Gori said, Omoi isn't really much of a threat here and can be taken out by using Sasuke's snake transformation or just stab his heart in a kenjutsu duel.

Overall I vote for Sasuke mid-high difficulty.
 

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I think it'll be more like Kankuro vs Hebi sasuke lol
I doubt other two will be that much useful in this fight, but I think ambush squad could take this, because Kankuro is currently the highest tier if not the best puppet user in the naruto universe now that sasori is gone ( chiyo gone also but some might argue she wasn't good as a young puppeteer such as kankuro now anyway )

with that being said, this won't be an easy fight for ambush squad at all, let's assume the circumstance of controlling Manda is too difficult for sasuke because it will cost him quite a bit of chakra to summon ( which is dangerous because in a 3 vs 1 he'll need all chakra he can gather ) and not to mention manda don't like being control anyway which mean could cost trouble commanding him.

he might just consider ditch the summon altogether and fight straight on, but sharingan will be difficult to catch kankuro since they have knowledge that sharingan is deadly with genjutsu, which mean he will probably take cover from puppet to puppet to avoid that. Sasuke have variety of chidori and fire jutsu, but I doubt he will have much success landing on kankuro.

but if kankuro can manage to poison sasuke, then all could be over because there's no medic to heal sasuke. and a Hebi sasuke can't use MS tech so he won't have susanoo etc to help.

although I have to mention if he really can summon manda and fully control it then this probably will end up as a win for him.
 

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Sasuke with Manda would curbstomp.
I agree but now what about Sasuke without Manda?
I think it'll be more like Kankuro vs Hebi sasuke lol
I doubt other two will be that much useful in this fight, but I think ambush squad could take this, because Kankuro is currently the highest tier if not the best puppet user in the naruto universe now that sasori is gone ( chiyo gone also but some might argue she wasn't good as a young puppeteer such as kankuro now anyway )
I agree, Kankuro is very underrated and is a very powerful jounin. I disagree that he is better than Chiyo but he'd give Chiyo a good fight. Sasori demolishes both though. Although he is a good leader and knows the strengths and weaknesses of his team mates so he can put Sai and Omoi to good use.
with that being said, this won't be an easy fight for ambush squad at all, let's assume the circumstance of controlling Manda is too difficult for sasuke because it will cost him quite a bit of chakra to summon ( which is dangerous because in a 3 vs 1 he'll need all chakra he can gather ) and not to mention manda don't like being control anyway which mean could cost trouble commanding him.
I agree, Sasuke summoning Manda is not in character and could cost him the fight. If he summons Manda and Manda disobeys him, Sasuke is screwed because he'll have to genjutsu Manda which would hamper himself.
he might just consider ditch the summon altogether and fight straight on, but sharingan will be difficult to catch kankuro since they have knowledge that sharingan is deadly with genjutsu, which mean he will probably take cover from puppet to puppet to avoid that. Sasuke have variety of chidori and fire jutsu, but I doubt he will have much success landing on kankuro.
Yeah Kankuro will be hard to beat with just genjutsu. It will be hard to kill Kankuro especially if Omoi and Sai engage Sasuke in a double kenjutsu attack against Sasuke. Although I believe Sasuke will curbstomp Omoi and defeat Sai as well (but with some difficulty). Although Kankuro will be hard to beat, Sasuke will eventually destroy his puppets and make Kankuro useless.
but if kankuro can manage to poison sasuke, then all could be over because there's no medic to heal sasuke. and a Hebi sasuke can't use MS tech so he won't have susanoo etc to help.
Sasuke was said to have some immunity to poison so if Kankuro manages to poison Sasuke, I think the poison will be less effective against him than others.
although I have to mention if he really can summon manda and fully control it then this probably will end up as a win for him.
Of course because Manda + Hebi Sasuke is overkill imo and in the opinion of others.
 
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It's more fun being the minority but yeah I think Hebi Sasuke wins. I'll copy and paste some of base Sasuke's feats for the lolz
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Seeing how these don't include Curse Mark abilities or Orochimaru's powers, I dare say that they're pretty impressive. I would add more but a lot of people don't consider Sasuke's fight with Itachi legit since they were genjutsu feats. But yeah, Ice posted most of my scenario already xD

At least Kankuro's a good leader, so it saves them from being outclassed in battle. Omoi has good swords play and lightning style to an extent but in all honesty he's pretty outclassed here. Engaging this Sasuke in close quarters alone would be suicide, so he'd need his teammates to back him up to avoid dying early on. Of course, Sasuke vs. Team Kakashi showed that Sasuke's perfectly capable of handling several opponents if need be.

Sai's best chance is to use the same method that he tried against ET Deidara and Sasori. Spamming weak ink creations won't do well against Sasuke, considering he has jutsu like Chidori Senbon, AOE Katons (see Sasuke vs. Sai panel), Chidori spear... the list goes on. I think his CM lvl2 wings are also worth mentioning, considering they're basically Hebi Sasuke's version of a Rib Cage Susano'o. He could easily break through the black ant puppet using them and probably Sai's super ink creations if he has the reaction to.

Kankuro's their only hope here. Salamander for defense, Crow for small offense, Black Ant for a surprise combination, and the Sasori puppet as his main one. Like Ice said, if the Sasori puppet gets destroyed, it's like Kankuro lost his queen in chess. Sasuke's Sharingan should logically see the chakra strings that Kankuro uses, making them an easy target to take advantage of if he needs to considering Omoi was able to do the same thing. Although... I'm not sure if Sasuke is immune to poison in general. I think Kakashi said something on the lines of "Orochimaru would have made sure to be immune to Shizune's poison", which means that he had preparation time put into it.

I didn't even take the snake summons into mind, which give perks themselves even if you take Manda out of the picture. Remember awesome panel? To be fair, this group is called an ambush squad for a reason. Putting them against strong opponents in a battle area scenario wouldn't be fair on their part. Most of the reason they beat Deidara and Sasori was because they were arrogant - up to the point where Deidara didn't care about dodging as he would just regenerate.
 
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I have a question: why didn't Deidara escape from the puppet by using explosions? Why couldn't he explode in the first place?
Well he was preparing C0 and and I think Omoi hit him with a Lightning infused sword, which basically negated Deidara as a whole.
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It's more fun being the minority but yeah I think Hebi Sasuke wins. I'll copy and paste some of base Sasuke's feats for the lolz
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Seeing how these don't include Curse Mark abilities or Orochimaru's powers, I dare say that they're pretty impressive. I would add more but a lot of people don't consider Sasuke's fight with Itachi legit since they were genjutsu feats. But yeah, Ice posted most of my scenario already xD

At least Kankuro's a good leader, so it saves them from being outclassed in battle. Omoi has good swords play and lightning style to an extent but in all honesty he's pretty outclassed here. Engaging this Sasuke in close quarters alone would be suicide, so he'd need his teammates to back him up to avoid dying early on. Of course, Sasuke vs. Team Kakashi showed that Sasuke's perfectly capable of handling several opponents if need be.

Sai's best chance is to use the same method that he tried against ET Deidara and Sasori. Spamming weak ink creations won't do well against Sasuke, considering he has jutsu like Chidori Senbon, AOE Katons (see Sasuke vs. Sai panel), Chidori spear... the list goes on. I think his CM lvl2 wings are also worth mentioning, considering they're basically Hebi Sasuke's version of a Rib Cage Susano'o. He could easily break through the black ant puppet using them and probably Sai's super ink creations if he has the reaction to.

Kankuro's their only hope here. Salamander for defense, Crow for small offense, Black Ant for a surprise combination, and the Sasori puppet as his main one. Like Ice said, if the Sasori puppet gets destroyed, it's like Kankuro lost his queen in chess. Sasuke's Sharingan should logically see the chakra strings that Kankuro uses, making them an easy target to take advantage of if he needs to considering Omoi was able to do the same thing. Although... I'm not sure if Sasuke is immune to poison in general. I think Kakashi said something on the lines of "Orochimaru would have made sure to be immune to Shizune's poison", which means that he had preparation time put into it.

I didn't even take the snake summons into mind, which give perks themselves even if you take Manda out of the picture. Remember awesome panel? To be fair, this group is called an ambush squad for a reason. Putting them against strong opponents in a battle area scenario wouldn't be fair on their part. Most of the reason they beat Deidara and Sasori was because they were arrogant - up to the point where Deidara didn't care about dodging as he would just regenerate.
You should have posted the most impressive ones during the Itachi vs Sasuke fight man.
 
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