Amaterasu takes time to burn? LMAO!

[Solo]

Yet it hasn't killed anybody. Fodderasu isn't doing anything.

Show me a scan of Perfect Susano'o killing anyone.
Show me a scan of Hashirama's Buddha killing anyone.
Show me a scan of Particale Style(Dust Release) killing someone.

Just because an attack hasn't killed anyone doesn't mean it can't. Ask those Juubi Fodders and Zetsu Fodders.

 

[Solo]

50/50 chance.

It has a slow burning rate proved in many different occasions. It can be countered by certain shinobi, before being completely engulfed in flames.

There is more proof in the manga that proves Amatersau burns faster than slower.

 

[blazekev90]

This is not a debate on its effectiveness in a battle scenario, but a debate on its potential ability to seriously injure, or kill a shinobi. Which clearly it can.

I didn't say it was, calm down.
However, that scan proves nothing. Are we forgetting that there was a window there?

 

[Crossroads]

Show me a scan of Perfect Susano'o killing anyone.
Show me a scan of Hashirama's Buddha killing anyone.
Show me a scan of Particale Style(Dust Release) killing someone.

Just because an attack hasn't killed anyone doesn't mean it can't. Ask those Juubi Fodders and Zetsu Fodders.

I hate it when people say that.

CT= 0 kills.
Great Shark Bullet = 0 kills.
Water Dome = 0 kills.
Kamui = 0 kills.

 

[ballerjordan]

There is more proof in the manga that proves Amatersau burns faster than slower.

It is inconsistent.

Amaterasu is inconsistent.

One time it burns a large whole in a toad in mere seconds, another time it takes ages to burn some trees. Another time it didn't even kill Karin.

Does it burn? Yes, but not as instant or fast as people think, Itachi burned through a window, there was nothing on the other side, then again, it couldn't kill Karin. Sasuke also had enough time to use oral rebirth before burning against Itachi.

The same with Hachibi, it was struggling of pain in the water, but yet, if it burns that fast, then Hachibi would have burned completely very fast, yet it didn't.

Raikage is another example. You see Amaterasu failed in doing (didn't burn him, he had enough time to cut off his arm). It failed in doing something what Sasuke/Itachi fans say it does more than accomplishing what they say the jutsu does.

It has a slow enough burning speed so a person can counter before it burns him/her completely.

 

[Flawž]

I hate it when people say that.

TBB = 0 kills.
CT= 0 kills.
Great Shark Bullet = 0 kills.
Water Dome = 0 kills.
Kamui = 0 kills.

kamui got Fuu and torune.

 

[Cosman]

I hate it when people say that.

TBB = 0 kills.
CT= 0 kills.
Great Shark Bullet = 0 kills.
Water Dome = 0 kills.
Kamui = 0 kills.

To be fair, the Amaterasu's been here since part 1. I mean, it really should have done more. TBB was a concept for part 2, right? And then it wasn't fitted until Bee came along.

I go tougher on Amaterasu for one reason. It's a busted jutsu. Endless black flames is the description it was first given I think. Black flames that can't be combated any other way is just a mess up from Kishi.

Very hyped jutsu with poor performance. But it was indeed doomed for a restriction/retcon at some point. Way too broke to leave alone. Come on Kishi get with it!

I actually hope it does have a slow burn rate. Only way to justify how awful it is. I wish writers would realize bringing in jutsus with no drawbacks eventually go south.

The other jutsus, you and Solo are correct on. Very few have a good track record. Even chidori has a 50% success rate I think. Nardo survived it, Karin survived it, Kakuzu survived it the first time.

 

[Crossroads]

kamui got Fuu and torune.

Kamui didn't kill Fuu and Torune, just... subdue them.

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But Amaterasu 1 shots 99% of NV.

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[Disquiet]

I didn't say it was, calm down.
However, that scan proves nothing. Are we forgetting that there was a window there?

That window wasn't the entire wall [

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[Tobiramas]

I hate it when people say that.

TBB = 0 kills.
CT= 0 kills.
Great Shark Bullet = 0 kills.
Water Dome = 0 kills.
Kamui = 0 kills.

TBB killed the entire ninja alliance HQ including team10's fathers

 

[Crossroads]

TBB killed the entire ninja alliance HQ including team10's fathers

Shiit, got me.

Edit time.

 

[Avinash012]

Oral Rebirth can work even if the user take massive damage. No shit Sasuke had time to use that jutsu. I never said it burns you to ashes in mere seconds, but it does burn you quickly.

Yes, it does but not as quickly as u think....

Like I said in my prv post it depends on the type of material....and even the users of OR will die if the attack is an instant kill...

 

[ballerjordan]

That window wasn't the entire wall [

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The Amaterasu had to simply penetrate through a window, and then it ate around the sides of it (wall). The window really helped the two get away quick enough.

 

[blazekev90]

That window wasn't the entire wall [

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I know it wasn't the entire wall, but majority of the wall was indeed a window. Bursting through a window and the flames burning the remains (outer edges) is completely different perspective than thinking it burnt through the entire wall w/ blitz speed -_-

What we eventually see the effects after Jman's viewing. Jman went to look AFTER amatersua was used.

 

[Urda]

It is like regular fire or burns like it. Its characteristic are different which is not extinguishable flames and is color is black.

 

[Disquiet]

The Amaterasu had to simply penetrate through a window, and then it ate around the sides of it (wall). The window really helped the two get away quick enough.

I know it wasn't the entire wall, but majority of the wall was indeed a window. Bursting through a window and the flames burning the remains (outer edges) is completely different perspective than thinking it burnt through the entire wall w/ blitz speed -_-

What we eventually see the effects after Jman's viewing. Jman went to look AFTER amatersua was used.

You two aren't making sense. The wall around the window was more or less completely gone, so the burning speed is the same even if it was a complete wall...

And again, Jiraiya's statement confirmed it.

 

[HadouKage]

Think BallerJoran and Drap cleared this thread up pretty well

It's been inconsistent and seems more effective when the user is focused on a target


What does killing anyone have to do with the thread?

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Or Tailed Beast Bomb

Or Kamui

Or Yata

Or wood dragon

Neither has Rasengan
Neither has Kirin
Neither has Dust Release
Neither has Chibaku Tensei
Neither has Wood Buddha

What's your point?

Gentle Fist... has killed someone... well done Hyuga Clan !!!


Lol good points guys... the amount of people a jutsu has killed doesn't make it any less lethal.

Losing an arm isn't seriously injured?

The Black Knight would say, "'Tis but a scratch." or ,"It's only a flesh wound."



OT: It is very inconsistent. Most likely, as focus and chakra is continuously poured into the jutsu, it has a faster burn rate. And due to amaterasu's fast movement speed when being fired... who's to say multiple blasts aren't being used at once.


The greatest advantage of Amaterasu is that it an afflicted target burns until nothing remains. There are moments where it burns almost instantly. There are points where it took time. Regardless of how fast it goes, it doesn't stop, and furthermore the flames are noted to be extremely hot... meaning that even if it is somehow removed... burns worse than the third degree will transpire.


Amaterasu is a dangerous jutsu... that should be obvious

 

[Howdidthesenjudie]

Agreed on the inconsistency; it's an incredibly OP technique, so kishi has to nerf at times. So what I guess I'm saying is that Amaterasu effectiveness is plot-based.

 

[ballerjordan]

You two aren't making sense. The wall around the window was more or less completely gone, so the burning speed is the same even if it was a complete wall...

And again, Jiraiya's statement confirmed it.

No. They never would have made it out if it weren't for the window there.

You can see here that the window takes up the majority of the wall

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Amaterasu breaks through the window allowing Itachi & Kisame to escape, the area around the wall is burning

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Jiraiya and Naruto still have the time to simply walk up to it and seal it without the Amaterasu burning the rest of the area

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. The burning speed isn't the same.