Amaterasu is useless against Neji

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Haha you guys act like little kids.....Sasuke Amaterasu can burn neji in 10 secs u think negi's defense is better then A's Sasuke Burned A's hand off remember
exactly,this amateratsu shit, is ,da SHiT:ice:
 

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He can counter it that way. Though he might stil take damage the moment it hits him even if he repels it in the next second.

The only reason it gave Nagato that much damage was because Kabuto had him lay there while he listened to Itachi, Naruto, and Bee's conversation.
 

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For the Karin argument, It seemed long because it was dramatic thought process time and the way the flames were on here minimized damage.

Neji doesn't make a chakra layer, he pushes chakra out of his body. He has never sustained a thick layer of chakra around his skin. You are confusing maintaining a layer of chakra and constantly pushing it out.

I looked at your scans and it supports this.

If you decided to bring up other evidence....
To move Kidomaru's arrow an inch, he was constantly emitting/pushing chakra out of his body. He did not use just a set amount of chakra to put up molded chakra barrier around himself... he was constantly emitting it.

The webs. He pushed them off in an instant.

Zetsu. Pushed him off in an instant.

Naruto's punch in chunin exams. Pushed chakra out then started rotation.

In none of these instances did he create a barrier made from a set amount of chakra and then use that to push it off. Rotation is body blow with spin. The user constantly emits chakra while spinning to deflect physical attacks.
Do you understand now?

hmm...No^^!

Naruto came at him and his fist was stopped by the barrier that supports what I said, that the layer is dense and that it can be formed quickly, while the amaterasu busy burning that layer neji uses body blow.

It is his ability to form that layer of chakra on his body.
 

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He cannot react to it quickly enough, that's why it is a different matter. The flames travel, that is why A could dodge it. It isn't about which is more powerful or not, fire cannot burn nothing, so when rotation is over there is no more amaterasu

The flame does not travel, it appears on site then travels as the user moves his eyes.
 

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Hmmm, i've never really thought about this but i belleive its true :D
 

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What post number did you say how heavenly rotation can be countered?



The raikage plunged into that



I read what you said and it is you who didn't read what I said in post #24 :sy: neji can see amaterasu coming before it comes due to his doujutsu so he spins before it comes meaning it will hit his wall of chakra that he creates during heavenly rotation not him

WHY ROTATION WONT STOP AMAT

The thing NO ONE SEEMS TO UNDERSTAND is that THERE IS A STARTING POINT FOR EVERY JUTSU. Ill try to make this as simply as possible for you.

Katon: THis starting point is usually in the mouth so it starts at the user..

Now a technique that requires a water source will form where ever the source of water may be.

Earth against rotation.. Okay neji creates his barrior then the earth directly below his feet is the starting point it would hit him....

AMAT: Its starting point is were the Enemy is as seen against raikage is STARTED WHERE HIS BODY WAS AND THEN TRAVELED

MY PIONT IS THAT THE AMAT'S STARTING POINT WOULD BE DIRECTLY ON NEJI INSIDE OF ROTATION AND IF NEJI WERE TO SOMEHOW MOVE THEN IT WILL TRAVEL.

So it starts where his focus was. So if he were to focus on a tree behind neji it would start there not on neji's rotation.
 

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WHY ROTATION WONT STOP AMAT

The thing NO ONE SEEMS TO UNDERSTAND is that THERE IS A STARTING POINT FOR EVERY JUTSU. Ill try to make this as simply as possible for you.

Katon: THis starting point is usually in the mouth so it starts at the user..

Now a technique that requires a water source will form where ever the source of water may be.

Earth against rotation.. Okay neji creates his barrior then the earth directly below his feet is the starting point it would hit him....

AMAT: Its starting point is were the Enemy is as seen against raikage is STARTED WHERE HIS BODY WAS AND THEN TRAVELED

MY PIONT IS THAT THE AMAT'S STARTING POINT WOULD BE DIRECTLY ON NEJI INSIDE OF ROTATION AND IF NEJI WERE TO SOMEHOW MOVE THEN IT WILL TRAVEL.

So it starts where his focus was. So if he were to focus on a tree behind neji it would start there not on neji's rotation.

The thing you said about the earth jutsu will still not effect neji as neji's rotation is like a sphere because chakra is released from all 361 chakra points in the body including the feet. Which is why a crater is created around the user because chakra has been released downwards as well.

Basically my point is neji see's chakra build up in sasuke's eye, neji begins rotation, by the time the flames are released onto the target (neji)he would have already been releasing chakra and spinning. So what sasuke would see right before he released the flames is his heavenly rotation.

If neji did not have the doujutsu the byakugan but could still do heavenly rotation the flames would be on him before he starts to spin meaning he would already suffer damage.
 
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I think that amaterasu is too fast for neji to react ?
 

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Support for thread - My reasons why neji is the best candidate out of the konoha 11 apart from naruto to fight sasuke one on one

If this battle was to happen in the show for whatever reason sasuke wins hands down because of plot no jutsu. Whether it be karin saving his ass or anyone else from taka sasuke would win.

But I am talking about a complete one on one situation with no one to heal, help or give sasuke a chakra boost. Here are my reasons why neji can defeat sasuke one on one but it would be extreme high difficulty

Let's start with the dangerous threats from sasuke:

Genjutsu:

Would be useless against neji in a one on one against sasuke despite common rule being to run on a one on one situation with an uchiha because of their genjutsus. There are two reason why genjutsu’s would be useless against neji:

1) Neji will not fall under a eye contact genjutsu when it is just him and sasuke

Basic top class shinobi knowledge do not look into the eyes of a sharingan user which means neji does not have to worry about this at all. In a group fight neji may be caught off guard (as seen with A against madara) but on a one on one it is just you and your opponent no distractions. Neji is not hot headed enough to lose his cool and forget this he is also a top class shinob, a jounin, a elite hyuga clan member he will not fall under a genjutsu which just evolves eye contact.

2) Sasuke’s genjutsu is nowhere near the level of itachi’s tsukuyomi

Let's say neji does fall under a genjutsu (highly highly unlikely neji is top class shinobi, a jounin from konoha which would know more about the sharingan then other villages list goes on for reason why he wouldn't on a one on one)
Hyuga have excellent chakra control they are the best candidates to break out of a genjutsu then any other shinobi along with jinjurki's. Lucky for neji sasuke's genjutsu is nothing compared to itachi's tsukuyomi which means neji with his excellent chakra control can break out of it. (My main reason is he want get caught in one)

So I am going to state in a one on one neji will most likely not fall under a genjutsu and if he does he can break out of it. (If this was itachi's no chance neji is done for but once again I don't think he would get into one he is not hot headed and uses his brain)


Amaterasu:

Neji with his byakugan can see all chakra points in the body as well as chakra itself. When a shinobi is going to perform a jutsu the byakugan can see the chakra build up. This means that neji out of anyone else would be able to prepare better for amaterasu. Even better then when A was fast enough to dodge amaterasu by seeing it when it was released from sasuke's eye.

Now that neji knows amaterasu is coming neji can do a number of things to counter it:

1)Heavenly rotation: Elite hyuga members can preform heavenly rotation this will protect neji from amaterasu flames as the flames will burn around the chakra and then disperse as the chakra disperses.

2)Gentle Fist Art One Blow Body: A weaker but quicker and easier to perform defence that will push the flames and anything around neji’s body away.

3)Dodge: As I stated he will know amaterasu is coming before any other shinobi would so he has more time to prepare for his counter, he does not have to be as fast as A or BM naruto as he gets the heads up earlier. Amaterasu was also dodged by sasuke running circles around itachi.

So that is 3 counters against amaterasu in the order that would be most effective and most likely for him to use as he knows amaterasu will be coming.



Susano:

This is neji’s only worry when fighting against sasuke but at the same time neji is also the best candidate to disable sasuke from using susano and I will tell you why.

Susano is the user powerful chakra being released and then being materialised. Neji has the ability to block chakra path ways in the body if neji blocks enough chakra path ways sasuke will not be able to form susano.
This solves the biggest problem with destroying a susano which is if it is destroyed the user can just re-activate susano if he has enough chakra. If neji get’s enough chakra points even if sasuke has enough chakra he will not be able to use it to form susano.

This is great but we all know the main problem is what is neji going to do when susano is active. Well this is the tough part.

Neji will have to be on the defence at this point in the battle but lucky for him sasuke cannot keep susano active forever. With his ultimate defence neji can deflect susano arrows and physical punches and sword attacks from sasuke’s susano. So neji will be defending blocking maybe even hiding but as this is a one on one sasuke cannot keep this active forever.

The only way neji can do enough damage on susano to create a direct opening to sasuke just as danzo did in his battle, is getting close to susano and delivering a direct hit from heavenly rotation. This will break susano enough for neji to have access to sasuke and once this path way is open all neji will have to do is get sasuke in a eight trigrams 64 palms. If he is successful susano will be disabled and will be for a while and sasuke cannot activate susano right away as his chakra flow and path ways will be blocked.

If Neji manages this then it becomes sasuke's kenjutsu and taijutsu vs neji taijutsu

This is the worst case sceniory for sasuke because if he cannot form susano and his chakra path ways are blocked it is basically sasuke’s kenjutsu and taijutsu with his sharingan perception vs neji taijutsu. This is where neji would own sasuke, every blow neji delivers will either block sasuke’s chakra path ways or damage sasuke’s internal organs.

So basically if neji can disables sasuke’s susano via blocking enough of his chakra path ways neji wins. Of course if this battle ever was to happen it would be much harder then I have stated which is why I say extremely high difficultly for neji. Sasuke would probably beat neji 7 times out of 10 but neji defeating sasuke is not impossible, as I have shown in this thread
 
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WHY ROTATION WONT STOP AMAT

The thing NO ONE SEEMS TO UNDERSTAND is that THERE IS A STARTING POINT FOR EVERY JUTSU. Ill try to make this as simply as possible for you.

Katon: THis starting point is usually in the mouth so it starts at the user..

Now a technique that requires a water source will form where ever the source of water may be.

Earth against rotation.. Okay neji creates his barrior then the earth directly below his feet is the starting point it would hit him....

AMAT: Its starting point is were the Enemy is as seen against raikage is STARTED WHERE HIS BODY WAS AND THEN TRAVELED

MY PIONT IS THAT THE AMAT'S STARTING POINT WOULD BE DIRECTLY ON NEJI INSIDE OF ROTATION AND IF NEJI WERE TO SOMEHOW MOVE THEN IT WILL TRAVEL.

So it starts where his focus was. So if he were to focus on a tree behind neji it would start there not on neji's rotation.

The starting point for Rotation is the body. The chakra is clearly emitted from his body.
 

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guys listen. if he is hit with amaterasu, or is about to be hit. he can use kaiten. when amaterasu attacks kaiten. naji can stop it. since teh chakra disappears, there is nothing to burn, so he flames will disappear, no?
 
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