[Discussion] Almost on ch.100

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Sooooo, a few days ago I found out that the creator of One Piece said that the manga was almost done..........? Since I read through, I mean literally, read through Naruto and Fairy Tail before those ended, then I can most certainly fly through OP before it ends. I need you guy's support!!! Thank you?✌???(forgot to mention I did miss a few days of reading it lol)
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No. I said he had the most feats. I bet you look dumb asf now. Hahahaaha wack ass boys. Go look at it
You said hype as well and one of your reasons were he was the FLEET Admiral LMAO. While one of your feats was he beat Ace, something any top tier can. LMAO that's the type of ridiculous threads you can look for in this section.
 

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You said hype as well and one of your reasons were he was the FLEET Admiral LMAO. While one of your feats was he beat Ace, something any top tier can. LMAO that's the type of ridiculous threads you can look for in this section.
So becoming fleet admiral isn't a feat? I'm not worried about this section I'm worried about the idiot that is you.

And any top tier can beat ace? Huh right the same ace who clashed with admirals and Jinbei the same as any other top commanders? I guess you don't understand the difference in pre timeskio and post timeskip and how much stronger ace and anybody for that matter would have been compared to post time skip characters had they made it but I guess your tiny brain can't comprehend that. Us one piece fans that can comprehend it will continue to sit here, don't like the section. Cya
 

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Nah, ? oven can't. Daifuku can't, Jinbei can't, none of the 3rd commanders are ? cya, damn I thought you knew a little bit about one piece as well. Want me to school you about ace? Maybe I can help your little itty bitty brain comprehend it

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when Ace was on Drum Island the townspeople told Luffy's crew it didn't snow that entire day, which is strange because Drum Island is known for snowing every day, this hints at Ace having awakening abilities.

"Ace is physically weak" Van Auger comments that even without his fruit his physical abilities are impressive as expected of a Whitebeard commander. Fought off jinbe for 5 DAYS who is extremely physically overwhelming, showing Ace has incredible levels of stamina, only top tiers have been shown to fight for days e.g. Admirals, Shanks, Mihawk etc even Luffy's longest battle has only been12 hours or so.

"Ace was Devil fruit reliant as a result his haki was weak" It's been revealed through the Ace novels that Ace could use armament haki, which he awakened mid-fight against a vice admiral and it was STRONGER than the vice admiral's own haki after just awakening it, there's no telling how much stronger it would have gotten after 3 years of new world battles. We already knew he had Kings haki, which he awakened as KID!! may I remind you when Luffy awakened it at 17 years old showing the difference in natural talent between Ace and Luffy. In fact his haki was so powerful in the Ace novel, when Ace steps onto the snowy Island where Shanks is, Shanks comments "his haki is like fire which is why the snow on the island is melting".

"If he had haki why didn't he use it against Blackbeard" Who's to say he didn't? Remember haki was always invisible pre-skip, the only way we knew someone used haki was if they faced logia or it was directly stated in the dialogue. Blackbeard is always tangible because of his fruit and BBs crew evacuated the area so there was nobody else to comment on Ace using haki (also remember a lot of the fight was off-screen).

"Ace got fodderized by Akainu" Ace had been tortured repeatedly in impel down and was given little to no food or water he was not 100%.

Other Ace feats:

  • Clashing with an Admirals (Aokiji) and stalemating
  • Offered title of Warlord at 17 years old (People will try to invalidate this by saying Buggy was offered it as well however Buggy got it because of his reputation of being linked to a Yonko and on the Pirate Kings ship, the government wanted to use his reputation to scare off pirates, Ace had no reputation as a rookie he got it purely because of strength.
  • His haki was praised by shanks and even Shanks said he was strong (when a Yonko praises someone that's when you know this person is extraordinary)
So guys cut Ace some slack he has some amazing feats and hype here he just didn't get much screen time. Oda said in this wano arc right now he will expand on Aces backstory and probably see more of his move set and haki abilities, but with all the feats I stated here it's safe to say Ace is like Low tier Admiral level, strong enough to halt and injure an Admiral but not beat one there's a reason why Ace had to be killed off, it's because he's much more talented than luffy he would have become another pirate King if he reached his potential (whitebeard would have made him)"


So if u still think any top tier is winning. Just go ride some d and reply to someone else
 
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Nah, ? oven can't. Daifuku can't, Jinbei can't, none of the 3rd commanders are ? cya,
Bro Jack stomps. Cracker stomps. And whoever is Shanks number 3 will also stomp.

IMO People who can beat Ace

Kaido
Whitebeard
Big Mom
Blackbeard
Shanks
Akainu
Aokiji
Kizaru
Fujitora
Ryogoku
Sengoku
Garp
Mihawk
Beckman
Rayleigh
Katakuri
Smoothie
Cracker
King
Queen
Jack
Marco
Jozu
Luffy
Zoro
Sanji (?)
Law
Kidd
Dragon
Sabo
Doflamingo
Nekomamushi
Inuarashi
Jinbei (?)
X-Drake (?)
Smoker (?)
Magellan
Shilew (?)
Kuma (?)
Hancock (?)
Weevil
Urouge
Vergo (?)
Pica (?)

Also arent the germa's raid suit immune to fire? If thats the case then Germa should also stomp Ace as well.
 

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Bro Jack stomps. Cracker stomps. And whoever is Shanks number 3 will also stomp.

IMO People who can beat Ace

Kaido
Whitebeard
Big Mom
Blackbeard
Shanks
Akainu
Aokiji
Kizaru
Fujitora
Ryogoku
Sengoku
Garp
Mihawk
Beckman
Rayleigh
Katakuri
Smoothie
Cracker
King
Queen
Jack
Marco
Jozu
Luffy
Zoro
Sanji (?)
Law
Kidd
Dragon
Sabo
Doflamingo
Nekomamushi
Inuarashi
Jinbei (?)
X-Drake (?)
Smoker (?)
Magellan
Shilew (?)
Kuma (?)
Hancock (?)
Weevil
Urouge
Vergo (?)
Pica (?)

Also arent the germa's raid suit immune to fire? If thats the case then Germa should also stomp Ace as well.
See you say that, yet I don't see jack or cracker stomping shit

This is literally the dumbest response I've ever seen you give, thank God you put question marks next to some of those
 

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See you say that, yet I don't see jack or cracker stomping shit
You probably never will

You have to use Cracker vs other characters to judge Cracker vs Ace, same with Jack.
I mean G4 Luffy is far above Ace and probably even Sabo and yet at one point Cracker was stomping him.

And you think Ace is stronger than Neko/Inu? Or even Shutenmaru? Because Jack was stalemating them.
 

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You probably never will

You have to use Cracker vs other characters to judge Cracker vs Ace, same with Jack.
I mean G4 Luffy is far above Ace and probably even Sabo and yet at one point Cracker was stomping him.

And you think Ace is stronger than Neko/Inu? Or even Shutenmaru? Because Jack was stalemating them.
Ok, imo Kuzan one shots jack

He didn't ace. So ace > jack imo

And I wouldn't put g4 Luffy that far above ace

I don't see jack clashing with any admiral for that matter.

You wanna compare post time skip characters to pre time skip? Then do it right .

If you took current Hawkins, Drake or anyone from the worst generation (besides Blackbeard) currently and put them pre timeskip in the war, they're getting obliterated.

Ace didnt
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I'll just keep posting this as well

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when Ace was on Drum Island the townspeople told Luffy's crew it didn't snow that entire day, which is strange because Drum Island is known for snowing every day, this hints at Ace having awakening abilities.

"Ace is physically weak" Van Auger comments that even without his fruit his physical abilities are impressive as expected of a Whitebeard commander. Fought off jinbe for 5 DAYS who is extremely physically overwhelming, showing Ace has incredible levels of stamina, only top tiers have been shown to fight for days e.g. Admirals, Shanks, Mihawk etc even Luffy's longest battle has only been12 hours or so.

"Ace was Devil fruit reliant as a result his haki was weak" It's been revealed through the Ace novels that Ace could use armament haki, which he awakened mid-fight against a vice admiral and it was STRONGER than the vice admiral's own haki after just awakening it, there's no telling how much stronger it would have gotten after 3 years of new world battles. We already knew he had Kings haki, which he awakened as KID!! may I remind you when Luffy awakened it at 17 years old showing the difference in natural talent between Ace and Luffy. In fact his haki was so powerful in the Ace novel, when Ace steps onto the snowy Island where Shanks is, Shanks comments "his haki is like fire which is why the snow on the island is melting".

"If he had haki why didn't he use it against Blackbeard" Who's to say he didn't? Remember haki was always invisible pre-skip, the only way we knew someone used haki was if they faced logia or it was directly stated in the dialogue. Blackbeard is always tangible because of his fruit and BBs crew evacuated the area so there was nobody else to comment on Ace using haki (also remember a lot of the fight was off-screen).

"Ace got fodderized by Akainu" Ace had been tortured repeatedly in impel down and was given little to no food or water he was not 100%.

Other Ace feats:

  • Clashing with an Admirals (Aokiji) and stalemating
  • Offered title of Warlord at 17 years old (People will try to invalidate this by saying Buggy was offered it as well however Buggy got it because of his reputation of being linked to a Yonko and on the Pirate Kings ship, the government wanted to use his reputation to scare off pirates, Ace had no reputation as a rookie he got it purely because of strength.
  • His haki was praised by shanks and even Shanks said he was strong (when a Yonko praises someone that's when you know this person is extraordinary)
So guys cut Ace some slack he has some amazing feats and hype here he just didn't get much screen time. Oda said in this wano arc right now he will expand on Aces backstory and probably see more of his move set and haki abilities, but with all the feats I stated here it's safe to say Ace is like Low tier Admiral level, strong enough to halt and injure an Admiral but not beat one there's a reason why Ace had to be killed off, it's because he's much more talented than luffy he would have become another pirate King if he reached his potential (whitebeard would have made him)"
 
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