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I wonder if one of these two (Himawari/Bolt) would be actually using this technique in Bolt manga or anime.
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I wonder if one of these two (Himawari/Bolt) would be actually using this technique in Bolt manga or anime.
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I really wish for Boruto to have some sort of Twin lion Fist
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Thank you Naruko and wonderful FC , Lady Byakugan love this FC !!
Curious about New Boruto Hyuuga powers anyone
Thank you Naruko and wonderful FC , Lady Byakugan love this FC !!
Curious about New Boruto Hyuuga powers anyone
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Welcome! I'm really curious I would like more abilities from Hyuga side then Uzumaki or more rasengan. That thing is old now.Thank you Naruko and wonderful FC , Lady Byakugan love this FC !!
Curious about New Boruto Hyuuga powers anyone
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Also that's never gonna happen with Bolt having Twin Lion fist. It's a complete wishful thinking. Boruto is more like Naruto than Hinata but If Bolt ever gonna inherit any techniques of the Hyuga I believe he posses more dominant traits with Neji than even Hinata. Neji means "Screw" and his Rotation resemble that and we know Bolt intertwine with the Screw. Lets face it. There's always some distinct connection between the Rotation and Rasengan.
We know Kaiten spins the same way Rasengan does and both amasses huge chakra as well which he might even become able to create a chakra sphere s from any tenketsu on his body similar to the rasengan/Kaiten. So maybe Bolt would be creative and instead we might end up seeing him go all over the place like avatar Aang on his air scooter in The Last Airbender… You have to agree with me it looks a lot like a tiny version of Kaiten coming out of his toes!
There's a possibility that he might not get kaiten but atleast that stem from the Hyuga bloodline. That is a pivotal chakra control having great precision emitting onto his body components.
We also know Boruto has an imitation of a Gentles Fist and AirPalm (Assumingly Boruto SD feats is canon) So if these two techniques I labeled aren't going to be any mere imitation and both are indeed Hyuga KKG then atleast Bolt not only gain Neji resemblance to stack onto but also Hinata in this regard. But if you look outcome; the only trait Bolt inherited from Hinata is her Lightning Chakra nature so who knows but you get the drill; I see Bolt resembles alot more of Neji than Hinata.
Cause lets face it; Himawari is going to be like Hinata; she's obviously going to have Twin lion fist if anything.
I don't want Boruto to be like Naruto having all varient rasengan cause this technique was overused thanks to Naruto over spamming that shit. I dig the Vanashing Rasengan but I hope Boruto doesn't go any further than that. I want boruto to stay as he is with the current rasengan he has and move on learning different abilities and thanks to the databook, we know boruto has unique fighting style and quite diverse. There is still more than to meet in the eye since the Databook didn't listed everything.
Also that's never gonna happen with Bolt having Twin Lion fist. It's a complete wishful thinking. Boruto is more like Naruto than Hinata but If Bolt ever gonna inherit any techniques of the Hyuga I believe he posses more dominant traits with Neji than even Hinata. Neji means "Screw" and his Rotation resemble that and we know Bolt intertwine with the Screw. Lets face it. There's always some distinct connection between the Rotation and Rasengan.
We know Kaiten spins the same way Rasengan does and both amasses huge chakra as well which he might even become able to create a chakra sphere s from any tenketsu on his body similar to the rasengan/Kaiten. So maybe Bolt would be creative and instead we might end up seeing him go all over the place like avatar Aang on his air scooter in The Last Airbender… You have to agree with me it looks a lot like a tiny version of Kaiten coming out of his toes!
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There's a possibility that he might not get kaiten but atleast that stem from the Hyuga bloodline. That is a pivotal chakra control having great precision emitting onto his body components.
We also know Boruto has an imitation of a Gentles Fist and AirPalm (Assumingly Boruto SD feats is canon) So if these two techniques I labeled aren't going to be any mere imitation and both are indeed Hyuga KKG then atleast Bolt not only gain Neji resemblance to stack onto but also Hinata in this regard. But if you look outcome; the only trait Bolt inherited from Hinata is her Lightning Chakra nature so who knows but you get the drill; I see Bolt resembles alot more of Neji than Hinata.
Cause lets face it; Himawari is going to be like Hinata; she's obviously going to have Twin lion fist if anything.
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Agree, Bolt being like Naruto is literally painful to watch. Naruto's fighting style has always been so damn boring to watch, just spamming Rasengan and Shadow clones over and over again. It's high time we got something fresh, and Gentle Fist is the way to go.
I have no doubt in my mind that Bolt's Hyuga lineage will come into play greatly in terms of his abilities, since there is plenty of evidence to such this.
He's named after Neji. Kishi even said he wants to focus on Neji in the Bolt manga, which may come up if say Hinata is training with Bolt or if Bolt asks to learn more about the Hyuga. He got a power up from a Byakugan user and he was shown with one Byakugan. Plus, with Bolt being paralleled with Sasuke and Kakashi, its very likely his Byakugan will be the main source of his power.
Agree, Bolt being like Naruto is literally painful to watch. Naruto's fighting style has always been so damn boring to watch, just spamming Rasengan and Shadow clones over and over again. It's high time we got something fresh, and Gentle Fist is the way to go.
I have no doubt in my mind that Bolt's Hyuga lineage will come into play greatly in terms of his abilities, since there is plenty of evidence to such this.
He's named after Neji. Kishi even said he wants to focus on Neji in the Bolt manga, which may come up if say Hinata is training with Bolt or if Bolt asks to learn more about the Hyuga. He got a power up from a Byakugan user and he was shown with one Byakugan. Plus, with Bolt being paralleled with Sasuke and Kakashi, its very likely his Byakugan will be the main source of his power.
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I stopped watching the series just because of that. It's all the same in every fight. We need Hyuga techniques.
Seriously I don't want more of Naruto techniques *sobbing*.
I stopped watching the series just because of that. It's all the same in every fight. We need Hyuga techniques.
Seriously I don't want more of Naruto techniques *sobbing*.
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If Bolt have anymore rasengan varieties; atleast don't make it coming from his palm to form another typical ball sphere like instead have him expel chakra through his tenketsu.
The funny thing is that the only calibur ninjutsu Naruto have till this very day is Rasengan just with multiple varieties and because of that result of perfecting it and overusing it; the rasengan clearly lost its value as well as he spammed the living shit out of multiple shadow clones which had been over redundant over time clearly because he was incompetent in taijutsu skills. Naruto is Bland ASF
If Bolt have anymore rasengan varieties; atleast don't make it coming from his palm to form another typical ball sphere like instead have him expel chakra through his tenketsu.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Bolt pull off a Rasengan-Twin Lions merge like his parents did, except he'd do it on his own.
I wouldn't mind seeing Bolt pull off a Rasengan-Twin Lions merge like his parents did, except he'd do it on his own.
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God, reading some of my old posts in this thread is amazing. All those shattered dreams and wrong theories :lol
God, reading some of my old posts in this thread is amazing. All those shattered dreams and wrong theories :lol
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Oh, I'm still clinging to some sort of Lion Fists for Boruto, some Hyuuga techs at the least. If something can elevate the Boruto series, it is the main character having Jyuuken, nothing more, nothing less. Resurrect Neji, damn it
Oh, I'm still clinging to some sort of Lion Fists for Boruto, some Hyuuga techs at the least. If something can elevate the Boruto series, it is the main character having Jyuuken, nothing more, nothing less. Resurrect Neji, damn it
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People that should have died in the War:
Tsunade
Bee
Ay
Oonoki
Gai
Hiashi
Kakashi
People that died in the War:
Neji
People that should have died in the War:
Tsunade
Bee
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Oonoki
Gai
Hiashi
Kakashi
People that died in the War:
Neji
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How Hinata beats Sakura
“Sakura can punch the ground and the mountains will kill her like it did to the Juubi Clones”
Nope. This attack is not as sure-fire as people want to believe. We saw that Sakura first needs to build momentum by jumping super high and then falling down to punch the ground.
Last I recall, Ninjas can only increase the height of their jumps with Chakra, while they simply end up falling at normal, real-life speed. Shown above, Naruto was left completely defenseless when falling, needing to be saved by Sasuke. As is the case, this would give Hinata ample enough time to intercept Sakura while she is falling down and blast her with an Air Palm in mid-air, ending the momentum she’d need to create this technique and damaging her organs.
Not only that, but plenty, PLENTY of Juubi Clones survived the attack, nearly killing Sakura due to her not being able to see through the dust cloud that followed. Considering Hinata survived a point-black Almighty Push then got stabbed, yet STILL managed to remain conscious for some time, a few rocks and stones will not be enough to knock her out completely.
Hinata also has the alternative option of simply avoiding the attack like any sane ninja would by jumping. Here, we see the Juubi fire its Juubi Bomb at Naruto, Bee, Gai and Kakashi. We see that Naruto is front-center, Kakasho/Gai behind and to his right, and Bee behind to his left, and all are facing towards the Juubi.
The dust cloud made as a result of the attack is thus to the right of Naruto, evidenced by Gai and Kakashi's presence.
Meaning here, the red is Naruto, the blue is Kakashi/Gai, and the yellow is Bee.
And what we see next is Hinata and a million other Shinobi falling from the sky, despite not being on panel when we got the above zoom-out shot. Meaning they were at least some 50 m up high at that point. Then there’s the fact that Ino took control of the Juubi for some 2 seconds, so that’s likely an addition 10 m or so considering they’d still be falling while she was doing so. Meaning her mountain crushing attack can be avoided by literally ANYONE who is capable of jumping.
Take into consideration her Byakugan, which will allow her to see through the dust cloud, and Sakura will only be putting herself in a bad situation with this technique as it does nothing but work to Hinata’s advantage.
"The flying debris will hurt Hinata"
As if we’ve ever actually seen such things be any sort of problem to anyone. No scan shows any of the debris from Sakura’s punches being powerful enough to even graze or knock out an opponent, let alone kill them.
In fact, I’d argue that Sakura puts herself more at risk than with Hinata. We saw her get knocked out just by hitting her head against a a wooden bridge, yet Hinata takes a point blank Almighty Push which causes the solid earth beneath her to blast upwards, yet she’s still conscious. If anyone is in a threat of getting knocked out by flying rocks, its Sakura.
“Yin Seal can open Chakra Points”
Then there’s the question of whether or not the Yin Seal can actually undo chakra points being blocked, and given how we’ve never seen the Yin Seal do this, I’m not inclined to believe it can, especially with plenty of evidence against it.
But let’s say Sakura CAN unblock chakra points, for arguments sake, I still find this an irrelevant point. The whole method to the 64 Palms is that, once the user lands one hit, they attack with such rapid jabs that they manage to land 64 precise strikes within a second or 2. So once Hinata has blocked 64 of her points, she’ll be fatigued.
One has to remember that during the Chunnin Exams, Neji was not fighting with the intent to kill Naruto, as he was constantly telling him to forfeit (much like how he did with Hinata). If Neji was fighting with the intent to kill Naruto, he would have finished him off right after he used the 64 palms on him, as Naruto still needed actual time to form the hand seals and have Nine Tails Chakra start flowing through his body to release the points, which was only made possible by Neji going easy on him.
Assuming a blood lusted battle, Hinata would be far more wary with Sakura and not give her an opportunity to undo the points unlike how Neji did with Naruto out of ignorance. The events of the Chunnin Exams will not repeat with Hinata. She WON’T wait around like Neji did with Naruto and allow Sakura time to release her Yin Seal, and with 64 of her points blocked, she won’t be able to use chakra to make some distance between them, she won’t be able to run away or smash the ground to buy time, so Hinata can just inject Chakra into her brain while she’s momentarily had her Chakra restricted and finish her off.
But the truth is, there is far more evidence to suggest Yin Seal would be unable to undo the Chakra Points being blocked.
Not only is Naruto directing TALKING to Kurama to give him power, but Kurama also refers to this, saying that Naruto always came to him whenever something came up he couldn’t handle. I will agree that it likely isn’t the Bijuu Chakra that did that, since we see Hinata later use the 64 Palms on a Juubi Clone, who would naturally have Bijuu Chakra, so it seems likely that instead its because Kurama is his own being that he was able to help Naruto, and not the TYPE of Chakra.
Naruto had to depend on another individual, another being with Chakra, to open his Chakra Points. Whereas Sakura would be depending on nothing more than a seal, so it can’t be said for certain that this would work. Naruto and Kurama are treated like two people fighting at once, such as how Kurama’s always providing Naruto with Chakra. Same way how Bijuus snap users out of Genjutsu because they act as a separate individual, same goes for undoing closed Chakra Points. This is the most sensible explanation imo. Obviously its not the potency of Bijuu Chakra, since we saw Hinata close off the points of a Juubi Clone. Likewise, it’s unlikely that it’s merely because its a separate Chakra source/seal, since we see that Naruto has to ask Kurama to give him the Chakra, meaning another individual has to deliberately and willingly pump the victim of Gentle Fist with chakra, something Sakura wouldn’t be able to do since her Yin Seal doesn’t house a conscious being.
Kidomaru is hit by Neji’s Gentle Fist attack, right after which he points out that he can’t channel his chakra anymore, hence his Chakra was stopped by Gentle Fist, and in turn, we see his Curse Seal fade away as a result of this. Yin Seal would work the same way, being sealed off as soon as even ONE of Sakura’s Chakra points is closed.
However, we also see that several Curse Seal users also lose their seals when they are either killed or or fall unconscious. Unlike Kidomaru, Jirobo is dead when he uses the seal while the second one loses it while passing out. As such, it can be said for sure that Kidomaru lost the seal because of Gentle Fist, as he was neither dead or unconscious, nor even in the process of passing out, as he goes on to have an entire conversation with Neji. Due to the simple fact that Kidomaru points out his Chakra Flow has stopped when his seal starts to fade away, it could also be said that the Curse Seal fades when the user dies, is heavily injured OR if they have their Chakra Points closed.
Likewise, there is no proof to argue that Kidomaru lost the Curse Seal because he was heavily damaged or near death, as we see several characters such as Neji after fighting Kidomaru himself, Itachi when fighting Sasuke, and Jiraiya when fighting Pain, all use Chakra despite being near deaths door.
Even if one wants to ignore the Curse Seal case, its blatantly obvious Kurama willingly gave Naruto his Chakra during the fight with Neji, meaning Sakura isn't mimicking that because she doesn't have a separate conscious being in her Yin Seal.
“Sakura is faster, she dodged Kaguya’s Arm”
Dodging something massive from multiple meters away isn’t the same as dodging multiple small strikes (64 Palms) at point blank, the two can't be compared. In a hand to hand fight, the former would not be relevant at all. A person dodging a car wouldn’t prove that that their reaction to close-range punches in a fist fight would be better.
As I said above, the arm that attacked Sakura is many meters away. When one of Naruto’s clones is hit by it, we can see that he is roughly the same size as the finger’s first part, and considering that scale, it is very VERY apparent that Sakura is at least some 30 m away from the hand when it moves towards her, yet even with such a great distance, she barely manages to react instead needing to be saved.
One shouldn’t bank on this Kaguya Chakra Arm argument anyways. May I remind you that Kyuubi got blitzed by Form 1 Juubi, saying that it was super fast. Yet Hinata was able to react to the Form 2 Juubi’s arms just fine.
What does this tell us? It re-enforces what I said above; that reacting to an attack from a distance is not the same as reacting to a close-ranged barrage of 64 strikes. Of course, the Form 2 Juubi is not as strong as The 10 Tailed Rabbit Form, but that is not relevant, since I am not comparing power levels, and just the fact that dodging distant attacks=/= dodging point blank attacks. And before anyone pipes in, no Kyuubi Cloaks don’t enhance reflexes, only power.
Of course, the fact that Sakura was able to react to this means Hinata could as well. Why do I say this? Simply put, we saw in 614 that Hinata > Sakura in reflexes, meaning that at the time of the 4th World War, Hinata is superior. There’s no reason to believe Hinata, who showed better reflexes than Sakura in the SAME situation, would be unable to do so against this attack.
Hinata > Wooden Spike
Wooden Spike > Sakura
Sakura > Juubi Hand
Therefore, Hinata > Wooden Spike > Sakura > Juubi hand. It’s as simple as that. Not to mention Hinata was among the first people to arrive in the Juubi's location, all while carrying Ino mind you, so that is a further testament to her speed being superior to Sakura's, if not one of the best among the alliance as a whole.
More evidence that Hinata is superior in speed and reflexes
More Chakra = Better speed and reflexes
With Sakura, we see that, when she is attempting to revive the fallen Naruto, she specifically points out her Chakra levels are super low, despite already having the Yin Seal, forcing her to go from using the Mystic Palm Technique to simply attempting CPR.
Yet, later, we still see her use a massive amount of Chakra to help save Sasuke. This means that, despite her Chakra levels being greater than a Rikudo Naruto Shadow Clone’s levels, Sakura does not have access to ALL of the Chakra in her seal whenever she pleases, akin to how Naruto does not have access to all the Chakra of the Nine Tails in Part 1, though she can still transfer it to others, likely because, like Madara with Kaguya, her body is unable to handle so much Chakra actually being in her system and instead she must rely on extracting small amounts from the seal, amounts that she herself can actually handle.
My point with the Yin Seal is that even if Sakura’s reserves surpass even Kaguya’s and Madara’s combined, it means nothing when her body can’t handle all that Chakra, as if it could, she’d be using it. Yet we see in the Last that it takes her three whole days to replenish Naruto, after which she is burned out, while it takes Hinata no more than a second to replenish Naruto, after which she doesn’t show a shred of fatigue.
Yin Seal does not in anyway affect the speed of the user. Tsunde, with her enormous reserves in her seal, was still being matched by Kabuto, who was able to react to her, the same guy even kid Naruto was fighting. So what? One of the Sannin had such horrible speed and reflexes that even with the seal she didn’t surpass Kabuto/Naruto?
Thus, Yin Seal does not affect her speed.
Also, Sakura and Hinata ended up running out of Chakra at the exact same time, yet Hinata was on the battle field for 48 hours straight, in arguably the most chaotic area of the war due to the Zetsus, while Sakura was chilling in the medic corps tents. This is also another indication of her superior Chakra levels.
"Sakura was healing/amplifying attacks throughout the entire war, she was using up a lot of Chakra too"
This is not true. She spent two days in the tents while Hinata fought continuously, not even sleeping the night, with her Byakugan active, something that caused Neji to pass out. Moreover, we actually see Sakura chilling in the tents not doing anything when the Neji-Zetsu goes up to her. Heck, at times she wasn’t even healing, just putting on band aids, talking with others, and performing autopsy on Zetsu’s body.
Wow, so much chakra being used. Definitly more taxing than using the Bykaugan and fighting for 48+ hours straight with little to no rest.
Of course, there is a far better and more direct comparison of Sakura and Hinata’s Chakra levels in The Last. We see Hinata recover Naruto’s drained Chakra pool within an instant, not even showing any signs of fatigue either, while Sakura takes three whole days to do so with every ounce of her Chakra, whereupon she is so exhausted to the point that she’s forced to lie down herself. Sure, you can argue that Naruto was completely unconscious with Sakura while he was merely on his knees with Hinata, but that doesn’t change the MASSIVE difference in the time and the resulting fatigue of both girls, which is non-existent in Hinata’s case.
And Hinata has Rikudo Chakra at her disposal now, and we know that stuff is highly potent and powerful, so there would be a massive boost to her power and speed. Of course, one may argue that we never see Hinata actually use this Chakra for anything beyond mixing it with Twin Lion Fists and increasing her reserves, but here is where the beautiful concept of common sense kicks in.
We don’t need proof for Fugaku’s Sharingan being able to use precognition, because we know all Sharingans can do this. We don’t need proof that Hinata’s Byakugan has a blind spot because we know all Byakugan have it. We don’t need proof that Dai can use all the other Gates below the 8th, because we know anyone who can use the 8th can use all the others. We don’t need proof that Sasuke’s Rennigan can use the Six Paths techniques, because we know all Rennigan can do this.
Likewise, we don’t need proof to argue that Hinata’s Rikudo Chakra increased her stats, because we know for a fact that Rikudo Chakra itself will increase the stats of whoever uses it, as we’ve seen with Naruto, Sasuke, and Kakashi. Common sense. Even if one wants to ignore this, she is still able to combine it with her attacks, meaning more power, and as shown with scans above, more Chakra means more speed, and Hinata displayed Chakra reserves on par with Naruto's after receiving Rikudo Chakra.
“Hinata may have gotten Chakra form Hamura, but she doesn’t have it anymore”
No proof Hinata lost the Chakra she gained from Hamura. No where does it even hint at her no longer having it. The writers of the movie explicitly made it a point and went out of their way to show the Tenseigan disappear from Hanabi’s eyes so people wouldn’t go around thinking this 15 year old has moon-busting powers, yet no such thing was done with Hinata, and when asked about the Chakra, Kishimoto didn’t even say she lost the abilities when asked about it, instead saying that it probably improved her abilities. She received it in the same way Naruto/Sasuke did, by falling unconscious and receiving it on another plain of existence, so unless it is ever confirmed any of these three no longer have that Chakra, there is no reason to believe she has lost it.
This chakra, outside of higher stamina and speed, Hinata would easily be able to replicate the effects of her Kyuubi Air Palm, which sent a Tailed-Beast Sized hand flying instantly. Kakashi noted that the Chakra he received from Naruto was enough to power his techniques three times over at least, and this was with such a small amount that is didn't form any sort of cloak. This would mean the V1 Cloak Naruto handed out to the alliance was even more powerful, and given that we saw Hinata was able to use her more potent Rikudo Chakra to form a sort of cloak around her, it would mean she would easily be able to replicate her Bijuu Air Palm with a Rikudo Air Palm.
Also, Hinata's Rikudo Air Palm has a very wide range, being able to cover the entire palm of the Juubi's hand, which is very large. Keep in mind that Hinata's Air Palm also deflected the Juubi's hand while it was rushing forward at FULL speed, unlike Hiashi's case, where it was dragging itself across the floor. Naturally, this would mean more force would be needed in Hinata's case, since Hinata has to work against the force of the hand moving forward AND send it flying back, while Hiashi, for the most part, was dealing with a slower hand moving forward, since it was dragging itself across the floor. That said, Hinata's Air Palm was shown to be powerful enough to blast the Juubi's hand the same way Hiashi did.
If Hinata were to use such a powerful attack on Sakura, she would be knocked away, causing her to collide with whatever environmental objects or buildings that may be around, in turn causing her to get knocked out and pass out, as we see that Sakura is very poor at tanking blunt force like the Air Palm. Also notice how she fails on her rear before her head hits the bridge, meaning the force was even lessened before she hit her head, yet that was enough to knock her out.
However, let’s assume that even with her canonical better reflexes, Rikudo Chakra, and larger Chakra pool, Hinata is still somehow slower than Sakura. Will this allow Sakura to win? Still no, because the Byakugan can deal with speedy opponents just fine.
Here we see Kakashi with his Sharingan activated in order to keep up with Lee’s movements, and we also see Neji doing the same. Obviously, this means the reason he has his Byakugan activated is to also be able to keep up with Lee.
Later, we see another example of this with Hinata when Obito becomes the Ten Tails Jinchuriki. The transformation is seen twice, one normally, and one through Hinata’s eyes.
Notice how in Hinata’s vision, there are far more panels used to display Obito sealing the Juubi? This indicates that Hinata too was using the Byakugan’s ability to keep track of high-speed movement, allowing her to see the Juubi being sealed away in detail. Moreover, Hinata notes that there were at least two ways she was able to tell the Juubi was absorbed by Obito, as she says “Judging by the Chakra as well”, meaning there would have been another method to how she knew the Juubi was sealed, that being that she simply saw it happen.
Obviously Hinata can’t keep track of all speedy movements, but Hinata’s Byakugan is stated to not be inferior to Neji’s in any way at all (Databook), which means her eyes can at least keep up with 4-5 Gate Lee levels of speed. It might even be superior when considering the range of Hinata’s is 20Km while Neji’s was 800m. And we also see that she was able to keep track of Obito absorbing the Juubi, which Sakura FAILED to do. And before anyone says it was because they were far away, this is not the case, as we see them VERY close the Wood Gates Hashirama was using to hold in the Juubi. Not to mention the entire alliance was in the 4 Sun Seal with the Juubi. From this, it’s evident that Hinata’s slow-mo vision is vastly superior in keeping track of movement than Sakura’s own eyes, as Hinata saw the near-instant sealing of the Juubi in detail while Sakura failed to do so, meaning Hinata would have an easier time keeping track of Sakura’s taijutsu and speed. Even Hiashi saw it with his Byakugan just like Hinata, while everyone else was left clueless due to how fast it happened.
This would mean that even in the case that Sakura is faster than her, which she isn’t due to the reasoning mentioned above, Hinata would still be able to keep track of her and not get blitzed. Combine this tracking ability with her speedy taijutsu (details below), and she can easily intercept any predictable attacks Sakura throws at her.
“Sakura is better in taijutsu”
The databook scores already prove this wrong, but since they’re so old and inconsistent, we’ll need more evidence.
64 Palms is a true testament to Hinata’s amazing taijutsu prowess.
Notice what Kakashi says. REGARDLESS of having penetrative vision, to be able to hit the Chakra Points in the heat of battle is something this man finds amazing. And this is Kakashi simply speaking of the Gentle Fist itself, not even the 64 Palms, a combo attack that pushes the Gentle Fist to its limit.
With 64 Palms, Hinata needs to react, aim, and move fast enough to align the tiny chakra points at the edge of her fingers which are as small as the tip of a needle with the various equally tiny chakra points on an opponents body 64 times, all while maneuvering around in the heat of battle in a manner and speed so as to prevent her opponent from escaping her combo attack. Not only that, but the attack starts with 2 jabs and ultimately ends with 32 jabs, meaning Hinata is capable of dishing out 32 jabs in a matter of a second or two. Pretty sure that qualifies as better reflexes, precision, and skill than getting kicked by Omoi, a fodder in Taijutsu.
Then there is their short taijutsu feats in The Last.
With Sakura, it’s nothing impressive. She fights off a bunch of maiden puppets that were designed for service rather than combat, and her taijutsu itself doesn’t come off as that impressive when noticing that all the maiden puppets just fly towards her with no coherence. They literally just fly towards her one after the other.
With Hinata, she fights against the same puppets that gave Hiashi and Naruto trouble. During the fight, with no Byakugan abilities and pure taijutsu, she redirects the momentum of one of the puppets, sending it flying, dodges an attack from above before proceeding to double kick two other puppets and black flips off of one of them into the air. Landing, she then, without even seeing it, dodges a puppet who attacks her from behind, and finally proceeds to take on two other puppets before being stopped by Toneri.
Sakura's agility is definitely there, but not only is Hinata’s taijutsu still faster (64 Palms), but its not the same as what Hinata displayed, actually fighting puppets made for combat, same ones who fought off Naruto and Hiashi, wherein she also displayed great skill, redirecting momentum, back flipping off opponents, incorporating kicks into the Gentle Fist style, which doesn’t use kicks, dodging an attack from behind without even using Byakugan, If Hinata can avoid a point-blank assault from behind without using the Byakugan’s 360 vision and Slow-mo vision, she’s not falling prey to a linear, predictable punch from Sakura, and I will present even more proof to back that up.
Two quotes to note from here.
“Even if you can see it, if your body can’t move, there’s nothing you can do”
“A straight forward attack makes it easy for the opponent to counter”
We know that not only can Hinata keep track of high speed, but her taijutsu is also very fast, evidenced by the 64 Palms, again, as noted above, and the Air Palm, which is noted as being a very fast strike. Sakura herself is nothing more than a straightforward fighter, often doing nothing more than dishing out simple punches that hold very little value or worth in a legitimate taijutsu battle, as shown time and time again.
Literally the exact same pose and punch every damn time.
Compare that to someone who can rapidly and accurately hit 64 tiny points in battle, and all the evidence is in favor of Hinata in a taijutsu fight, even IF Sakura’s foot speed is faster, simply because Hinata’s eyes would keep track of such speed and her superior, faster, and more dynamic taijutsu would allow her to counter such speed and mundane combat skills.
Sakura admits her reaction time isn’t that great either, and before any chime in about it being early Part 2, no. We literally never see her improve any of her skills all through out Part 2, we get no evidence of her training to improve her taijutsu prowess. Instant reaction means reacting to things out of the blue, and we see her fail this three times later down the line with Omoi, a Zetsu, and a Wooden Spike.
And, of course, Chiyo states you need plenty of fighting experience for such things, and last I recall, Hinata was the one who spends her time constantly in grueling training, even trained with Neji, and was the one fighting on the front lines of the war, unlike Sakura. Again, evidence this with her 64 Palms, which requires great accuracy, speed, and reaction time to implement properly, and we have even more evidence of Hinata’s superior reflexes.
For example, if Neji fought Kidomaru again, he’d obviously have a much easier time, because he wouldn’t fall for traps like the Chakra threads. Kiba also probably won’t fall for traps like someone wearing his own cloths in order to hide their scent from him, like what Sakon did. Knowledge of traps through battle experience. With instant reaction, it simply refers to having so much battle experience that a person is able to casually react to attacks. Sakura admits her reaction is awful, evidenced by her SEVERAL failures against Sasori’s attacks, Omoi’s kick, Zetsus, and a Wooden Spike. We don’t see her fight at all in the Sasuke & Sai arc, Immortals arc, Itachi Pursuit arc, Pain’s Invasion arc, and she’s in the back of the line during the war. As such, there is no reason to believe her reaction time increased.
Even after 15 years, all she can do is throw a straight forward punch, a linear attack which Lee, a taijutsu master, says makes it very easy for opponents to counter, yet people think such mundane taijutsu is beating an opponent who is referred to as a "Master of the Gentle Fist", can hit 64 needle-tip-tiny Chakra Points all in a row, who has slow-mo vision to deal with faster attacks, and who has displayed a far more dynamic fighting style?
“How do you know 64 Palms will work? Sakura can dodge or counter it”
Understand that the 64 Palms is essentially a one-hit attack. Once the first strike hits, the other 63 are guaranteed every time, that’s why it’s such a difficult Taijutsu technique to master in the first place, and hence why Naruto/Kidomaru didn’t move out of the way when they were being hit.
If it was possible to fight back after getting hit by the first strike, Kidomaru would have done it. He wasn’t in pain, wasn’t having chakra points blocked, and had SIX ARMS to help him get the job done (EI grabbing Neji’s hands to stop him from attacking). Yet people want to argue Sakura who is negative in all three of those aspects would be able to fight back while being jabbed by Hinata. Sakura, who couldn’t even react to Omoi’s kick. While her chakra flow is being disrupted, thus getting rid of her Super Strength, what would she do? Even Hinata’s split second blunder wasn’t enough to allow the Mini Juubi time to escape the 64 Palms. That’s because it’s a combo attack; it’s meant to leave no room for an opening or opportunity for the enemy to fight back.
We see with Sasuke, that simply getting ONE of his Chakra Points hit caused him to be unable to control his Susano’O in order to manifest its wings, showing that even one closed point is enough to disturb an opponents technique. Fortunately for Sasuke, Kaguya used her hair needle, which Sasuke simply removed, whereas Hinata would be using Chakra. One hit from 64 Palms, no Super Strength. What then?
Not only that, but there is VERY clearly a sort of paraylsis effect whenever a person has their Chakra Points hit, as shown with both the hawk and Sasuke having “quiv quiv” sound effects written when they are hit and shake lines around them, indicating they are quivering due to being unable to move. This in fact explains even further why 64 Palms is an unavoidable tech when the first hit lands, since it causes temporary paralysis when hitting the Chakra Points, buying the Gentle Fist user enough time to continue to hit the 2nd, then 3rd, then 4th, and so on until the technique is done. Of course, it is possible this is exclusive to the Rabbit Needle technique, so just consider it supporting evidence.
Also, Hinata’s reflexes far surpass Sakura’s. Not only is this evident by her Byakugan, her Gentle Fist, and expertise in the 64 Palms as previously pointed out, but we saw a blatant example of this in Chapter 614 when Hinata was able to react to and protect Naruto from a wooden spike while Sakura failed to dodge it and was instead saved by Kakashi. And keep in mind Hinata did this with her Byakugan inactivated, meaning no enhanced vision to track high speed movement.
With all this evidence piled up, who will land the hit first? Someone who can strikes 32 times in a second, extend her range with Twin Lion Fists, allowing her to fight from a safer distance, has Rikudo Chakra to further her power and speed, and has slow-mo vision to track any speedy movements or someone who takes literally the same predictable pose every time?
“Hinata failed at 64 Palms and even tripped over a rock”
Irrelevant and failure to understand context. Sure, Hinata had a slight delay in her 64 Palms, but she still managed to complete it properly. As said above, the 64 Palms is a combo attack that relies on the user’s speed and accuracy to keep it going, so the fact that the Juubi Clone was unable to fight back even with that blunder of Hinata’s is proof of just how minuscule the mistake truly was. Not to mention she literally overcame that issue in the EXACT same chapter when she remembered Neji's advice on the trick to completing the 64 Palms, which showed her realizing how to complete the final phase of the combo.
As for her tripping, this is not a testament to her skills. It was outright stated that the alliance was running on fumes at that point, meaning everyone was at their limit, including Hinata , hence why they needed to be protected by Hiruzen. So her faltering when so low on Chakra is about as much of a testament to her skill as Naruto tripping in his fight with Sasuke; no relevance whatsoever. Low Chakra means the body gives out. Even in the ending of the Deidara VS Sasuke fight, we clearly see both low on Chakra and in turn, both were unable to even stand. Likewise for Neji after he used his Byakugan for so long. What exactly is the difference between Naruto, Neji, Sasuke, Deidara, and Hinata’s cases? There is none.
"Sakura blitzed Shin"
Not really a valid argument at all. Shin was paying attention to Sasuke/Naruto, so Sakura's punch is as noteworthy as Himawari taking out Naruto. Sure, you may argue that Sakura ran so fast, that she was able to land a hit on Shin before he could even notice her running up to him, after all, she did attack him head on, right? And in such a case, I can toss the argument right back at you, twice in fact. After all, Hinata was able to run across the entire Almighty Push crater before Naruto could even noticed her to the right of Pain. If Hinata WAS running so slowly, he would have noticed her approaching in the distance, meaning she managed to run across the crater before Naruto even noticed her, and that thing is like 613 m in its radius. Hinata being able to travel across the radius of a village-sized crater, that makes someone as large as Gamabunta appear tiny in comparison is definitely superior than crossing a small a small plot of land, even prior to getting Rikudo Chakra mind you.
“Sakura can punch the ground and the mountains will kill her like it did to the Juubi Clones”
Nope. This attack is not as sure-fire as people want to believe. We saw that Sakura first needs to build momentum by jumping super high and then falling down to punch the ground.
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Last I recall, Ninjas can only increase the height of their jumps with Chakra, while they simply end up falling at normal, real-life speed. Shown above, Naruto was left completely defenseless when falling, needing to be saved by Sasuke. As is the case, this would give Hinata ample enough time to intercept Sakura while she is falling down and blast her with an Air Palm in mid-air, ending the momentum she’d need to create this technique and damaging her organs.
Not only that, but plenty, PLENTY of Juubi Clones survived the attack, nearly killing Sakura due to her not being able to see through the dust cloud that followed. Considering Hinata survived a point-black Almighty Push then got stabbed, yet STILL managed to remain conscious for some time, a few rocks and stones will not be enough to knock her out completely.
Hinata also has the alternative option of simply avoiding the attack like any sane ninja would by jumping. Here, we see the Juubi fire its Juubi Bomb at Naruto, Bee, Gai and Kakashi. We see that Naruto is front-center, Kakasho/Gai behind and to his right, and Bee behind to his left, and all are facing towards the Juubi.
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The dust cloud made as a result of the attack is thus to the right of Naruto, evidenced by Gai and Kakashi's presence.
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Meaning here, the red is Naruto, the blue is Kakashi/Gai, and the yellow is Bee.
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And what we see next is Hinata and a million other Shinobi falling from the sky, despite not being on panel when we got the above zoom-out shot. Meaning they were at least some 50 m up high at that point. Then there’s the fact that Ino took control of the Juubi for some 2 seconds, so that’s likely an addition 10 m or so considering they’d still be falling while she was doing so. Meaning her mountain crushing attack can be avoided by literally ANYONE who is capable of jumping.
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Take into consideration her Byakugan, which will allow her to see through the dust cloud, and Sakura will only be putting herself in a bad situation with this technique as it does nothing but work to Hinata’s advantage.
"The flying debris will hurt Hinata"
As if we’ve ever actually seen such things be any sort of problem to anyone. No scan shows any of the debris from Sakura’s punches being powerful enough to even graze or knock out an opponent, let alone kill them.
In fact, I’d argue that Sakura puts herself more at risk than with Hinata. We saw her get knocked out just by hitting her head against a a wooden bridge, yet Hinata takes a point blank Almighty Push which causes the solid earth beneath her to blast upwards, yet she’s still conscious. If anyone is in a threat of getting knocked out by flying rocks, its Sakura.
“Yin Seal can open Chakra Points”
Then there’s the question of whether or not the Yin Seal can actually undo chakra points being blocked, and given how we’ve never seen the Yin Seal do this, I’m not inclined to believe it can, especially with plenty of evidence against it.
But let’s say Sakura CAN unblock chakra points, for arguments sake, I still find this an irrelevant point. The whole method to the 64 Palms is that, once the user lands one hit, they attack with such rapid jabs that they manage to land 64 precise strikes within a second or 2. So once Hinata has blocked 64 of her points, she’ll be fatigued.
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One has to remember that during the Chunnin Exams, Neji was not fighting with the intent to kill Naruto, as he was constantly telling him to forfeit (much like how he did with Hinata). If Neji was fighting with the intent to kill Naruto, he would have finished him off right after he used the 64 palms on him, as Naruto still needed actual time to form the hand seals and have Nine Tails Chakra start flowing through his body to release the points, which was only made possible by Neji going easy on him.
Assuming a blood lusted battle, Hinata would be far more wary with Sakura and not give her an opportunity to undo the points unlike how Neji did with Naruto out of ignorance. The events of the Chunnin Exams will not repeat with Hinata. She WON’T wait around like Neji did with Naruto and allow Sakura time to release her Yin Seal, and with 64 of her points blocked, she won’t be able to use chakra to make some distance between them, she won’t be able to run away or smash the ground to buy time, so Hinata can just inject Chakra into her brain while she’s momentarily had her Chakra restricted and finish her off.
But the truth is, there is far more evidence to suggest Yin Seal would be unable to undo the Chakra Points being blocked.
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Not only is Naruto directing TALKING to Kurama to give him power, but Kurama also refers to this, saying that Naruto always came to him whenever something came up he couldn’t handle. I will agree that it likely isn’t the Bijuu Chakra that did that, since we see Hinata later use the 64 Palms on a Juubi Clone, who would naturally have Bijuu Chakra, so it seems likely that instead its because Kurama is his own being that he was able to help Naruto, and not the TYPE of Chakra.
Naruto had to depend on another individual, another being with Chakra, to open his Chakra Points. Whereas Sakura would be depending on nothing more than a seal, so it can’t be said for certain that this would work. Naruto and Kurama are treated like two people fighting at once, such as how Kurama’s always providing Naruto with Chakra. Same way how Bijuus snap users out of Genjutsu because they act as a separate individual, same goes for undoing closed Chakra Points. This is the most sensible explanation imo. Obviously its not the potency of Bijuu Chakra, since we saw Hinata close off the points of a Juubi Clone. Likewise, it’s unlikely that it’s merely because its a separate Chakra source/seal, since we see that Naruto has to ask Kurama to give him the Chakra, meaning another individual has to deliberately and willingly pump the victim of Gentle Fist with chakra, something Sakura wouldn’t be able to do since her Yin Seal doesn’t house a conscious being.
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Kidomaru is hit by Neji’s Gentle Fist attack, right after which he points out that he can’t channel his chakra anymore, hence his Chakra was stopped by Gentle Fist, and in turn, we see his Curse Seal fade away as a result of this. Yin Seal would work the same way, being sealed off as soon as even ONE of Sakura’s Chakra points is closed.
However, we also see that several Curse Seal users also lose their seals when they are either killed or or fall unconscious. Unlike Kidomaru, Jirobo is dead when he uses the seal while the second one loses it while passing out. As such, it can be said for sure that Kidomaru lost the seal because of Gentle Fist, as he was neither dead or unconscious, nor even in the process of passing out, as he goes on to have an entire conversation with Neji. Due to the simple fact that Kidomaru points out his Chakra Flow has stopped when his seal starts to fade away, it could also be said that the Curse Seal fades when the user dies, is heavily injured OR if they have their Chakra Points closed.
Likewise, there is no proof to argue that Kidomaru lost the Curse Seal because he was heavily damaged or near death, as we see several characters such as Neji after fighting Kidomaru himself, Itachi when fighting Sasuke, and Jiraiya when fighting Pain, all use Chakra despite being near deaths door.
Even if one wants to ignore the Curse Seal case, its blatantly obvious Kurama willingly gave Naruto his Chakra during the fight with Neji, meaning Sakura isn't mimicking that because she doesn't have a separate conscious being in her Yin Seal.
“Sakura is faster, she dodged Kaguya’s Arm”
Dodging something massive from multiple meters away isn’t the same as dodging multiple small strikes (64 Palms) at point blank, the two can't be compared. In a hand to hand fight, the former would not be relevant at all. A person dodging a car wouldn’t prove that that their reaction to close-range punches in a fist fight would be better.
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As I said above, the arm that attacked Sakura is many meters away. When one of Naruto’s clones is hit by it, we can see that he is roughly the same size as the finger’s first part, and considering that scale, it is very VERY apparent that Sakura is at least some 30 m away from the hand when it moves towards her, yet even with such a great distance, she barely manages to react instead needing to be saved.
One shouldn’t bank on this Kaguya Chakra Arm argument anyways. May I remind you that Kyuubi got blitzed by Form 1 Juubi, saying that it was super fast. Yet Hinata was able to react to the Form 2 Juubi’s arms just fine.
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What does this tell us? It re-enforces what I said above; that reacting to an attack from a distance is not the same as reacting to a close-ranged barrage of 64 strikes. Of course, the Form 2 Juubi is not as strong as The 10 Tailed Rabbit Form, but that is not relevant, since I am not comparing power levels, and just the fact that dodging distant attacks=/= dodging point blank attacks. And before anyone pipes in, no Kyuubi Cloaks don’t enhance reflexes, only power.
Of course, the fact that Sakura was able to react to this means Hinata could as well. Why do I say this? Simply put, we saw in 614 that Hinata > Sakura in reflexes, meaning that at the time of the 4th World War, Hinata is superior. There’s no reason to believe Hinata, who showed better reflexes than Sakura in the SAME situation, would be unable to do so against this attack.
Hinata > Wooden Spike
Wooden Spike > Sakura
Sakura > Juubi Hand
Therefore, Hinata > Wooden Spike > Sakura > Juubi hand. It’s as simple as that. Not to mention Hinata was among the first people to arrive in the Juubi's location, all while carrying Ino mind you, so that is a further testament to her speed being superior to Sakura's, if not one of the best among the alliance as a whole.
More evidence that Hinata is superior in speed and reflexes
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More Chakra = Better speed and reflexes
With Sakura, we see that, when she is attempting to revive the fallen Naruto, she specifically points out her Chakra levels are super low, despite already having the Yin Seal, forcing her to go from using the Mystic Palm Technique to simply attempting CPR.
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Yet, later, we still see her use a massive amount of Chakra to help save Sasuke. This means that, despite her Chakra levels being greater than a Rikudo Naruto Shadow Clone’s levels, Sakura does not have access to ALL of the Chakra in her seal whenever she pleases, akin to how Naruto does not have access to all the Chakra of the Nine Tails in Part 1, though she can still transfer it to others, likely because, like Madara with Kaguya, her body is unable to handle so much Chakra actually being in her system and instead she must rely on extracting small amounts from the seal, amounts that she herself can actually handle.
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My point with the Yin Seal is that even if Sakura’s reserves surpass even Kaguya’s and Madara’s combined, it means nothing when her body can’t handle all that Chakra, as if it could, she’d be using it. Yet we see in the Last that it takes her three whole days to replenish Naruto, after which she is burned out, while it takes Hinata no more than a second to replenish Naruto, after which she doesn’t show a shred of fatigue.
Yin Seal does not in anyway affect the speed of the user. Tsunde, with her enormous reserves in her seal, was still being matched by Kabuto, who was able to react to her, the same guy even kid Naruto was fighting. So what? One of the Sannin had such horrible speed and reflexes that even with the seal she didn’t surpass Kabuto/Naruto?
Thus, Yin Seal does not affect her speed.
Also, Sakura and Hinata ended up running out of Chakra at the exact same time, yet Hinata was on the battle field for 48 hours straight, in arguably the most chaotic area of the war due to the Zetsus, while Sakura was chilling in the medic corps tents. This is also another indication of her superior Chakra levels.
"Sakura was healing/amplifying attacks throughout the entire war, she was using up a lot of Chakra too"
This is not true. She spent two days in the tents while Hinata fought continuously, not even sleeping the night, with her Byakugan active, something that caused Neji to pass out. Moreover, we actually see Sakura chilling in the tents not doing anything when the Neji-Zetsu goes up to her. Heck, at times she wasn’t even healing, just putting on band aids, talking with others, and performing autopsy on Zetsu’s body.
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Wow, so much chakra being used. Definitly more taxing than using the Bykaugan and fighting for 48+ hours straight with little to no rest.
Of course, there is a far better and more direct comparison of Sakura and Hinata’s Chakra levels in The Last. We see Hinata recover Naruto’s drained Chakra pool within an instant, not even showing any signs of fatigue either, while Sakura takes three whole days to do so with every ounce of her Chakra, whereupon she is so exhausted to the point that she’s forced to lie down herself. Sure, you can argue that Naruto was completely unconscious with Sakura while he was merely on his knees with Hinata, but that doesn’t change the MASSIVE difference in the time and the resulting fatigue of both girls, which is non-existent in Hinata’s case.
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And Hinata has Rikudo Chakra at her disposal now, and we know that stuff is highly potent and powerful, so there would be a massive boost to her power and speed. Of course, one may argue that we never see Hinata actually use this Chakra for anything beyond mixing it with Twin Lion Fists and increasing her reserves, but here is where the beautiful concept of common sense kicks in.
We don’t need proof for Fugaku’s Sharingan being able to use precognition, because we know all Sharingans can do this. We don’t need proof that Hinata’s Byakugan has a blind spot because we know all Byakugan have it. We don’t need proof that Dai can use all the other Gates below the 8th, because we know anyone who can use the 8th can use all the others. We don’t need proof that Sasuke’s Rennigan can use the Six Paths techniques, because we know all Rennigan can do this.
Likewise, we don’t need proof to argue that Hinata’s Rikudo Chakra increased her stats, because we know for a fact that Rikudo Chakra itself will increase the stats of whoever uses it, as we’ve seen with Naruto, Sasuke, and Kakashi. Common sense. Even if one wants to ignore this, she is still able to combine it with her attacks, meaning more power, and as shown with scans above, more Chakra means more speed, and Hinata displayed Chakra reserves on par with Naruto's after receiving Rikudo Chakra.
“Hinata may have gotten Chakra form Hamura, but she doesn’t have it anymore”
No proof Hinata lost the Chakra she gained from Hamura. No where does it even hint at her no longer having it. The writers of the movie explicitly made it a point and went out of their way to show the Tenseigan disappear from Hanabi’s eyes so people wouldn’t go around thinking this 15 year old has moon-busting powers, yet no such thing was done with Hinata, and when asked about the Chakra, Kishimoto didn’t even say she lost the abilities when asked about it, instead saying that it probably improved her abilities. She received it in the same way Naruto/Sasuke did, by falling unconscious and receiving it on another plain of existence, so unless it is ever confirmed any of these three no longer have that Chakra, there is no reason to believe she has lost it.
This chakra, outside of higher stamina and speed, Hinata would easily be able to replicate the effects of her Kyuubi Air Palm, which sent a Tailed-Beast Sized hand flying instantly. Kakashi noted that the Chakra he received from Naruto was enough to power his techniques three times over at least, and this was with such a small amount that is didn't form any sort of cloak. This would mean the V1 Cloak Naruto handed out to the alliance was even more powerful, and given that we saw Hinata was able to use her more potent Rikudo Chakra to form a sort of cloak around her, it would mean she would easily be able to replicate her Bijuu Air Palm with a Rikudo Air Palm.
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Also, Hinata's Rikudo Air Palm has a very wide range, being able to cover the entire palm of the Juubi's hand, which is very large. Keep in mind that Hinata's Air Palm also deflected the Juubi's hand while it was rushing forward at FULL speed, unlike Hiashi's case, where it was dragging itself across the floor. Naturally, this would mean more force would be needed in Hinata's case, since Hinata has to work against the force of the hand moving forward AND send it flying back, while Hiashi, for the most part, was dealing with a slower hand moving forward, since it was dragging itself across the floor. That said, Hinata's Air Palm was shown to be powerful enough to blast the Juubi's hand the same way Hiashi did.
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If Hinata were to use such a powerful attack on Sakura, she would be knocked away, causing her to collide with whatever environmental objects or buildings that may be around, in turn causing her to get knocked out and pass out, as we see that Sakura is very poor at tanking blunt force like the Air Palm. Also notice how she fails on her rear before her head hits the bridge, meaning the force was even lessened before she hit her head, yet that was enough to knock her out.
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However, let’s assume that even with her canonical better reflexes, Rikudo Chakra, and larger Chakra pool, Hinata is still somehow slower than Sakura. Will this allow Sakura to win? Still no, because the Byakugan can deal with speedy opponents just fine.
Here we see Kakashi with his Sharingan activated in order to keep up with Lee’s movements, and we also see Neji doing the same. Obviously, this means the reason he has his Byakugan activated is to also be able to keep up with Lee.
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Later, we see another example of this with Hinata when Obito becomes the Ten Tails Jinchuriki. The transformation is seen twice, one normally, and one through Hinata’s eyes.
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Notice how in Hinata’s vision, there are far more panels used to display Obito sealing the Juubi? This indicates that Hinata too was using the Byakugan’s ability to keep track of high-speed movement, allowing her to see the Juubi being sealed away in detail. Moreover, Hinata notes that there were at least two ways she was able to tell the Juubi was absorbed by Obito, as she says “Judging by the Chakra as well”, meaning there would have been another method to how she knew the Juubi was sealed, that being that she simply saw it happen.
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Obviously Hinata can’t keep track of all speedy movements, but Hinata’s Byakugan is stated to not be inferior to Neji’s in any way at all (Databook), which means her eyes can at least keep up with 4-5 Gate Lee levels of speed. It might even be superior when considering the range of Hinata’s is 20Km while Neji’s was 800m. And we also see that she was able to keep track of Obito absorbing the Juubi, which Sakura FAILED to do. And before anyone says it was because they were far away, this is not the case, as we see them VERY close the Wood Gates Hashirama was using to hold in the Juubi. Not to mention the entire alliance was in the 4 Sun Seal with the Juubi. From this, it’s evident that Hinata’s slow-mo vision is vastly superior in keeping track of movement than Sakura’s own eyes, as Hinata saw the near-instant sealing of the Juubi in detail while Sakura failed to do so, meaning Hinata would have an easier time keeping track of Sakura’s taijutsu and speed. Even Hiashi saw it with his Byakugan just like Hinata, while everyone else was left clueless due to how fast it happened.
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This would mean that even in the case that Sakura is faster than her, which she isn’t due to the reasoning mentioned above, Hinata would still be able to keep track of her and not get blitzed. Combine this tracking ability with her speedy taijutsu (details below), and she can easily intercept any predictable attacks Sakura throws at her.
“Sakura is better in taijutsu”
The databook scores already prove this wrong, but since they’re so old and inconsistent, we’ll need more evidence.
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64 Palms is a true testament to Hinata’s amazing taijutsu prowess.
Notice what Kakashi says. REGARDLESS of having penetrative vision, to be able to hit the Chakra Points in the heat of battle is something this man finds amazing. And this is Kakashi simply speaking of the Gentle Fist itself, not even the 64 Palms, a combo attack that pushes the Gentle Fist to its limit.
With 64 Palms, Hinata needs to react, aim, and move fast enough to align the tiny chakra points at the edge of her fingers which are as small as the tip of a needle with the various equally tiny chakra points on an opponents body 64 times, all while maneuvering around in the heat of battle in a manner and speed so as to prevent her opponent from escaping her combo attack. Not only that, but the attack starts with 2 jabs and ultimately ends with 32 jabs, meaning Hinata is capable of dishing out 32 jabs in a matter of a second or two. Pretty sure that qualifies as better reflexes, precision, and skill than getting kicked by Omoi, a fodder in Taijutsu.
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Then there is their short taijutsu feats in The Last.
With Sakura, it’s nothing impressive. She fights off a bunch of maiden puppets that were designed for service rather than combat, and her taijutsu itself doesn’t come off as that impressive when noticing that all the maiden puppets just fly towards her with no coherence. They literally just fly towards her one after the other.
With Hinata, she fights against the same puppets that gave Hiashi and Naruto trouble. During the fight, with no Byakugan abilities and pure taijutsu, she redirects the momentum of one of the puppets, sending it flying, dodges an attack from above before proceeding to double kick two other puppets and black flips off of one of them into the air. Landing, she then, without even seeing it, dodges a puppet who attacks her from behind, and finally proceeds to take on two other puppets before being stopped by Toneri.
Sakura's agility is definitely there, but not only is Hinata’s taijutsu still faster (64 Palms), but its not the same as what Hinata displayed, actually fighting puppets made for combat, same ones who fought off Naruto and Hiashi, wherein she also displayed great skill, redirecting momentum, back flipping off opponents, incorporating kicks into the Gentle Fist style, which doesn’t use kicks, dodging an attack from behind without even using Byakugan, If Hinata can avoid a point-blank assault from behind without using the Byakugan’s 360 vision and Slow-mo vision, she’s not falling prey to a linear, predictable punch from Sakura, and I will present even more proof to back that up.
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Two quotes to note from here.
“Even if you can see it, if your body can’t move, there’s nothing you can do”
“A straight forward attack makes it easy for the opponent to counter”
We know that not only can Hinata keep track of high speed, but her taijutsu is also very fast, evidenced by the 64 Palms, again, as noted above, and the Air Palm, which is noted as being a very fast strike. Sakura herself is nothing more than a straightforward fighter, often doing nothing more than dishing out simple punches that hold very little value or worth in a legitimate taijutsu battle, as shown time and time again.
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Literally the exact same pose and punch every damn time.
Compare that to someone who can rapidly and accurately hit 64 tiny points in battle, and all the evidence is in favor of Hinata in a taijutsu fight, even IF Sakura’s foot speed is faster, simply because Hinata’s eyes would keep track of such speed and her superior, faster, and more dynamic taijutsu would allow her to counter such speed and mundane combat skills.
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Sakura admits her reaction time isn’t that great either, and before any chime in about it being early Part 2, no. We literally never see her improve any of her skills all through out Part 2, we get no evidence of her training to improve her taijutsu prowess. Instant reaction means reacting to things out of the blue, and we see her fail this three times later down the line with Omoi, a Zetsu, and a Wooden Spike.
And, of course, Chiyo states you need plenty of fighting experience for such things, and last I recall, Hinata was the one who spends her time constantly in grueling training, even trained with Neji, and was the one fighting on the front lines of the war, unlike Sakura. Again, evidence this with her 64 Palms, which requires great accuracy, speed, and reaction time to implement properly, and we have even more evidence of Hinata’s superior reflexes.
For example, if Neji fought Kidomaru again, he’d obviously have a much easier time, because he wouldn’t fall for traps like the Chakra threads. Kiba also probably won’t fall for traps like someone wearing his own cloths in order to hide their scent from him, like what Sakon did. Knowledge of traps through battle experience. With instant reaction, it simply refers to having so much battle experience that a person is able to casually react to attacks. Sakura admits her reaction is awful, evidenced by her SEVERAL failures against Sasori’s attacks, Omoi’s kick, Zetsus, and a Wooden Spike. We don’t see her fight at all in the Sasuke & Sai arc, Immortals arc, Itachi Pursuit arc, Pain’s Invasion arc, and she’s in the back of the line during the war. As such, there is no reason to believe her reaction time increased.
Even after 15 years, all she can do is throw a straight forward punch, a linear attack which Lee, a taijutsu master, says makes it very easy for opponents to counter, yet people think such mundane taijutsu is beating an opponent who is referred to as a "Master of the Gentle Fist", can hit 64 needle-tip-tiny Chakra Points all in a row, who has slow-mo vision to deal with faster attacks, and who has displayed a far more dynamic fighting style?
“How do you know 64 Palms will work? Sakura can dodge or counter it”
Understand that the 64 Palms is essentially a one-hit attack. Once the first strike hits, the other 63 are guaranteed every time, that’s why it’s such a difficult Taijutsu technique to master in the first place, and hence why Naruto/Kidomaru didn’t move out of the way when they were being hit.
If it was possible to fight back after getting hit by the first strike, Kidomaru would have done it. He wasn’t in pain, wasn’t having chakra points blocked, and had SIX ARMS to help him get the job done (EI grabbing Neji’s hands to stop him from attacking). Yet people want to argue Sakura who is negative in all three of those aspects would be able to fight back while being jabbed by Hinata. Sakura, who couldn’t even react to Omoi’s kick. While her chakra flow is being disrupted, thus getting rid of her Super Strength, what would she do? Even Hinata’s split second blunder wasn’t enough to allow the Mini Juubi time to escape the 64 Palms. That’s because it’s a combo attack; it’s meant to leave no room for an opening or opportunity for the enemy to fight back.
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We see with Sasuke, that simply getting ONE of his Chakra Points hit caused him to be unable to control his Susano’O in order to manifest its wings, showing that even one closed point is enough to disturb an opponents technique. Fortunately for Sasuke, Kaguya used her hair needle, which Sasuke simply removed, whereas Hinata would be using Chakra. One hit from 64 Palms, no Super Strength. What then?
Not only that, but there is VERY clearly a sort of paraylsis effect whenever a person has their Chakra Points hit, as shown with both the hawk and Sasuke having “quiv quiv” sound effects written when they are hit and shake lines around them, indicating they are quivering due to being unable to move. This in fact explains even further why 64 Palms is an unavoidable tech when the first hit lands, since it causes temporary paralysis when hitting the Chakra Points, buying the Gentle Fist user enough time to continue to hit the 2nd, then 3rd, then 4th, and so on until the technique is done. Of course, it is possible this is exclusive to the Rabbit Needle technique, so just consider it supporting evidence.
Also, Hinata’s reflexes far surpass Sakura’s. Not only is this evident by her Byakugan, her Gentle Fist, and expertise in the 64 Palms as previously pointed out, but we saw a blatant example of this in Chapter 614 when Hinata was able to react to and protect Naruto from a wooden spike while Sakura failed to dodge it and was instead saved by Kakashi. And keep in mind Hinata did this with her Byakugan inactivated, meaning no enhanced vision to track high speed movement.
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With all this evidence piled up, who will land the hit first? Someone who can strikes 32 times in a second, extend her range with Twin Lion Fists, allowing her to fight from a safer distance, has Rikudo Chakra to further her power and speed, and has slow-mo vision to track any speedy movements or someone who takes literally the same predictable pose every time?
“Hinata failed at 64 Palms and even tripped over a rock”
Irrelevant and failure to understand context. Sure, Hinata had a slight delay in her 64 Palms, but she still managed to complete it properly. As said above, the 64 Palms is a combo attack that relies on the user’s speed and accuracy to keep it going, so the fact that the Juubi Clone was unable to fight back even with that blunder of Hinata’s is proof of just how minuscule the mistake truly was. Not to mention she literally overcame that issue in the EXACT same chapter when she remembered Neji's advice on the trick to completing the 64 Palms, which showed her realizing how to complete the final phase of the combo.
As for her tripping, this is not a testament to her skills. It was outright stated that the alliance was running on fumes at that point, meaning everyone was at their limit, including Hinata , hence why they needed to be protected by Hiruzen. So her faltering when so low on Chakra is about as much of a testament to her skill as Naruto tripping in his fight with Sasuke; no relevance whatsoever. Low Chakra means the body gives out. Even in the ending of the Deidara VS Sasuke fight, we clearly see both low on Chakra and in turn, both were unable to even stand. Likewise for Neji after he used his Byakugan for so long. What exactly is the difference between Naruto, Neji, Sasuke, Deidara, and Hinata’s cases? There is none.
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"Sakura blitzed Shin"
Not really a valid argument at all. Shin was paying attention to Sasuke/Naruto, so Sakura's punch is as noteworthy as Himawari taking out Naruto. Sure, you may argue that Sakura ran so fast, that she was able to land a hit on Shin before he could even notice her running up to him, after all, she did attack him head on, right? And in such a case, I can toss the argument right back at you, twice in fact. After all, Hinata was able to run across the entire Almighty Push crater before Naruto could even noticed her to the right of Pain. If Hinata WAS running so slowly, he would have noticed her approaching in the distance, meaning she managed to run across the crater before Naruto even noticed her, and that thing is like 613 m in its radius. Hinata being able to travel across the radius of a village-sized crater, that makes someone as large as Gamabunta appear tiny in comparison is definitely superior than crossing a small a small plot of land, even prior to getting Rikudo Chakra mind you.
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