Akatsuki vs all Kages we have seen

[asad70ful]

It depends on if Madara has the Rennigan and if Nagato is disabled or not.

If Madara does and Nagato isnt, then I think it would be a tough fight but the Akatsuki would win in the end. If the roles are reversed then so is the outcome, it would be tough but I think the kages would win

i agree

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

What? That wasn't a reply anyone's post.

Your right about the "Ninja A won Ninja B and Ninja B won Ninja C therefore Ninja A is greater than Ninja C" concept not always being true. You also have to take into consideration that most of the time the "Ninja A won Ninja B and Ninja B won Ninja C therefore Ninja A is greater than Ninja C" concept would be true and ninja C doesn't just automatically loose just because you made a thread that highlights that there is a valid possibility that Ninja A could win.

IT IS NOT MOSTLY TRUE! It can be true or false. And what about my other points? Have u agreed with them.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

you know I hate wasting my wise words on thread like this but just remember abusiki operated in the shadows for VERY GOOD REASON.

when sasuke and nagato went all out that got the attention of the kages and made madara rush his plans. So your idea of them owning kages is bejond silly if it were that easy they would taken over the world by now.

Please who is 'Abusiki'. If u meant Akatsuki they didn't want attentio bcos they wanted their plans top secret.

So bcos Madara rushed his plans the Kages are stronger than Akatsuki. You're a funny guy. That was even b4 he acquired Rinnegan.

Are this what u call wise words? LOL!!!!!!!!!

 

[vinsence]

Kisame can match Raikages individually with his formidable strength,and then effortlessly suck the chakra out of the anatomy.

I take it you have not seen the most recent manga? The 3rd Raikages would out last him eazy. And solo Kisame with time to help the rest.

 

[DigitalMonster]

Yes,I've seen it.Please make logical and realistic arguments rather than fanfictions.

 

[Freeze]

For sure all the kages that we have seen probly Yondaime kills 80% of them all alone

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Kisame can match Raikages individually with his formidable strength,and then effortlessly suck the chakra out of the anatomy.

formidable strength? Didn't kisame get his stomach blasted open by Killer Bee.Then he had to combine with his sword to survive.Somehow, I don't see him beating A or the Third Raikage who are far more intelligent then Bee.Especially, A who knows about kisame and his skills.Both the Third Raikage and A who have incredible speed would just killed kisame with their most powerful attack when Samehada couldn't absorb anymore chakra.And with their intelligence far exceeding Bee's, I highly doubt either of them would get caught in Kisame water prison which would be his only course of action.

 

[Colour]

Akatsuki

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

I just can see the Akatsuki beating all the Kages we have seen.So many of the Akatsuki members have lost their lives to non-kage level shinobis.Deidara almost was killed by Kakashi and lost to Sasuke before sasuke attained the MS.And to those who would say Deidara killed himself, that's because he was beaten and left with no options.Hidan lost to Shikamaru and Kakazu lost to a pre-sage naruto after battling with Kakashi and a team of Chunin.Sasori's lost to old lady Chiyo, granted she was a former puppeteer and Sakura.I mean, a little less then half of the Akatsuki where taken out by chunins and you expect the Akatsuki as a whole to take on all the Kages we have seen.I'm assuming people don't know how many kages we have seen if they believe the Akatsuki have any chance in hell.Hokage's one through six,the third and fourth Raikage,the second and fifth Mizukage,the second and third Tsuchikage, and the third,fourth, and Fifth Kazekage.This wouldn't be a battle, it would be like an all-star team playing a highschool JV squad.

 

[Rockspeed23]

If it was this generation of Kages. I would say Akatsuki by far even a guys like Hidan and Deidara can take on tailed beasts laughing and those are their weakest members. However if you are talking all the Kages such as 3rd Raikage, 4th Hokage, 1st Hokage, etc would be too much even for the Akatsuki.

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

I made a thread referring to people like this who say Ninja A won Ninja B and Ninja B won Ninja C therefore Ninja A is greater than Ninja C.

Nagato, Itachi, Madara, Kisame were not killed by someone. Madara is even still alive. Kisame was defeated in his weakened state and still he killed himself. Itachi died out of sickness and Nagato died due to exhaustion of chakra. Konan was killed by a fellow Akatsuki. Hidan is not yet dead! lol! Kakuzu was outsmarted and KILLED. Agreed. Deidara BOMBED himself. Sasori let Chiyo kill him, Zetsu is still alive and Orochimar was killed when he was still sick.

Only Kakuzu has died clearly. The rest are either not dead or killed themselves

IT IS NOT MOSTLY TRUE! It can be true or false. And what about my other points? Have u agreed with them.

I'm not sure what your definition on the word defeated is but it it seems as though you consider death to be a prerequisite. If this is the case, then this is how your "points" would come across(or atleast how it comes across to me).:

=> Nagato wasn't defeated by Naruto (Your right, Naruto defeated Pain. But Nagato and Konan were talk-no-jutsu'd)
=> Itachi wasn't defeated (I agree with this. But he would have probably suffered the same fate eventually if he pushed his body too far.)
=> Kisame was defeated by Guy(I agree )
=> Hashirama did not defeat Madara (I certainly cant agree with this)
=> Hidan was not defeated by Shikamaru (do you really expect me to agree with this?)
=> Deidera was not defeated (I disagree. Deidera tried to kill Sasuke at the cost of his own life but his objective failed. I would only agree had Deidera succeeded)
=> Sasori was not defeated(in essence, Sasori "surrendered his King" after being pushed to the brink by a very old lady and a medical chuunin)
=> Kakuzu was defeated (I also agree)

My point is that these previous encounters have shown that these Akatsuki members are clearly nowhere as invincible as you make them out to be. The Kages aren't invincible either but if Kishi ever were to cook up such a match up then I'd place my money on the Kages.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

I'm not sure what your definition on the word defeated is but it it seems as though you consider death to be a prerequisite. If this is the case, then this is how your "points" would come across(or atleast how it comes across to me).:

=> Nagato wasn't defeated by Naruto (Your right, Naruto defeated Pain. But Nagato and Konan were talk-no-jutsu'd)
=> Itachi wasn't defeated (I agree with this. But he would have probably suffered the same fate eventually if he pushed his body too far.)
=> Kisame was defeated by Guy(I agree )
=> Hashirama did not defeat Madara (I certainly cant agree with this)
=> Hidan was not defeated by Shikamaru (do you really expect me to agree with this?)
=> Deidera was not defeated (I disagree. Deidera tried to kill Sasuke at the cost of his own life but his objective failed. I would only agree had Deidera succeeded)
=> Sasori was not defeated(in essence, Sasori "surrendered his King" after being pushed to the brink by a very old lady and a medical chuunin)
=> Kakuzu was defeated (I also agree)

My point is that these previous encounters have shown that these Akatsuki members are clearly nowhere as invincible as you make them out to be. The Kages aren't invincible either but if Kishi ever were to cook up such a match up then I'd place my money on the Kages.

You were talking About killed not defeated.
- The manga stated that Hashirama defeated Madara
- Deidara killed himself.
- Weakened Kisame was defeated not killed by Guy
- Sasori still had A TON OF IDEAS AND TECHNIQUES. He let Chiyo kill him
- That's nonsense. Stop forming techniques like Talk no jutsu. Nagato died out of over usage of chakra and stamina.
- I never said Hidan wasn't defeated by Shikamaru I said Hidan is still alive.
- Itachi died of disease. Simple. There is no he probably cudda died
- Kakuzu was killed after fighting 4 ninjas who still needed saving then fought one more who killed him.

Your reasons are pointless.

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

You were talking About killed not defeated.

I think you should reread my post and indicate where I was talking about "Killing". The word I used was "beaten"

- The manga stated that Hashirama defeated Madara

Like I've indicated before, I am 100% in accord with this concept.

- Deidara killed himself.

I've never denied this.

- Weakened Kisame was defeated not killed by Guy

But he was beaten or defeated(or whatever).

- Sasori still had A TON OF IDEAS AND TECHNIQUES. He let Chiyo kill him

It doesn't change the fact that some of his best techniques failed against an old lady and a medical chuunin.

- That's nonsense. Stop forming techniques like Talk no jutsu. Nagato died out of over usage of chakra and stamina.

Then let me rephrase. I agree that Nagato was not defeated by Naruto because he convinced Nagato and Konan to have a change of heart.

- I never said Hidan wasn't defeated by Shikamaru I said Hidan is still alive.

Then whats your point?

- Itachi died of disease. Simple. There is no he probably cudda died

Exactly!

- Kakuzu was killed after fighting 4 ninjas who still needed saving then fought one more who killed him.

I agree completely with this

Your reasons are pointless.

 

[-Vegeta-]

I'm sorry, but there's no way the Akatsuki is winning this. If it was the akatsuki vs the current 5 kages than i would say yes they would win. You're putting every kage we have seen against them and that is way too much. Some of you guys are overrating the akatsuki members and underrating some of the kages.