Akatsuik memebers too weak

[Tauren Chieftain]

AKaktsuki members and Akatsuki as whole is too weak because :

- For many years they couldn't seal all 9 bijuus into Gedo Statue

- They need 3 days to seal just 1 bijuu into Gedo Statue.

They should learn from Maddy how its done :

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So Madara did in minute what entire Akatsuki couldn't in years .

Its really shame they are pretty weak compared to Maddy.

That Maddy

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Thank you and Madara rules.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

If only the Akatsuki members had Senju DNA and the chakra of two transmigrants coursing through their veins.

 

[salamander uchiha]

That Maddy solo'd all the tailed beasts and two Jins like they're school boys. And that while having only 1 of his Rinnegan that Maddy.

If only the Akatsuki members had Senju DNA and the chakra of two transmigrants coursing through their veins.

Nagato has the eyes of rokudo born from the chakra of rwo transmigrants. And Tobi had the Senju DNA and Madara's paths rod. A revived Madara was no longer a transmigrant so you're point of dismissal is flawed.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

If only the Akatsuki members had Senju DNA and the chakra of two transmigrants coursing through their veins.

Bobito did and he couldn't to anything.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

That Maddy solo'd all the tailed beasts and two Jins like they're school boys. And that while having only 1 of his Rinnegan that Maddy.

Yeah I forgot he only had 1 Rinnegan , even nerfed by half he still stomps Akatsuki members, that Maddy

 

[salamander uchiha]

Bobito did and he couldn't to anything.

Nagato has the eyes of rokudo born from the chakra of rwo transmigrants. And Tobi had the Senju DNA and Madara's paths rod. A revived Madara was no longer a transmigrant so you're point of dismissal is flawed.

5 star thread.

 

[Kirin The Dragon Sage]

Its plot, kishi in rushing so he pass all this. Momoshiki another example when he try to extract Naruto.

 

[minamoto]

madara dont join akatsuki..its akatsuki who joins madara..

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Bobito did and he couldn't to anything.

If only the Akatsuki members had Senju DNA and the chakra of two transmigrants coursing through their veins.

Obito had neither to the extent that Madara did and we've seen how close he was himself.

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Madara can also thank both Obito and the alliance for setting ripe conditions.

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Let's not ignore about Blob Boi's aid either.

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Nagato has the eyes of rokudo born from the chakra of rwo transmigrants. And Tobi had the Senju DNA and Madara's paths rod. A revived Madara was no longer a transmigrant so you're point of dismissal is flawed.

5 star thread.

He still carried their chakras, otherwise he wouldn't be able to replicate Hagoromo's.

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[Tauren Chieftain]

Obito had neither to the extent that Madara did and we've seen how close he was himself.

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Madara can also thank both Obito and the alliance for setting ripe conditions.

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Let's not ignore about Blob Boi's aid either.

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He still carried their chakras, otherwise he wouldn't be able to replicate Hagoromo's.

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Pathetic excuses they are weak deal with it.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Pathetic excuses they are weak deal with it.

Someone seems to be struggling with finding a rebuttal.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Someone seems to be struggling with finding a rebuttal.

No need to Obito had both senju dna and Madara Rinnegan which contained same chakra Madara had so your entire first point is retarded.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

No need to Obito had both senju dna and Madara Rinnegan which contained same chakra Madara had so your entire point is retarded.

Nope. My point actually hurts your entire premise because we know sealing tailed beasts heavily ties into the chakra of the sealers.

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Guess who just so happened to have three of the most potent chunks of chakras we've ever seen and more such as being the rightful owner of the Gedo Statue? Hashirama's chakra alone is more than Kurama and Naruto's combined.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Nope. My point actually hurts your entire premise because we know sealing tailed beasts heavily ties into the chakra of the sealers.

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Guess who just so happened two have three of the most potent chunks of chakras we've ever seen and more such as being the rightful owner of the Gedo Statue?

Thats only case for Nagato's weak jutsu so still retarded first point no matter how you look at it.

Now stop talking nonsense and don't expect from me to keep replying to your nonsense.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

This thread got destroyed quick

 

[salamander uchiha]

He still carried their chakras, otherwise he wouldn't be able to replicate Hagoromo's.

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That's just the sage talking nonsense or you're misunderstanding the words he meant Rokudo chakra. Madara has already awakened Rokudo chakra prior to death so even without Indra Ashura chakra he would still have Rokudo chakra. That's evidenced by the fact that he could still use the outer path and yin yang release even without the Rinnegan as he did when training Obito.

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Here Hashirama confirming Rokudo Madara is not at EMS Madara in power by saying he's regaining his former strength. The reason for that is since Indra and Ashura have migrated on he doesn't have their chakra but he does have a weakened form of Rokudo chakra weaker than Indra's anyway.

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Here Rokudo confirms prior to the end of cycle Madara had awakened his chakra.

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Here the sage confirms that he's no longer the Indra transmigrant in other words Indra's chakra's passed on. And Madara's using the 10 tails to gain Rokudo power and even his mothers (Rinne sharingan).

I hope it's clearer now.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Akatsuki needed to extract 7 bijus in which Madara only did 2. I wouldn't say that Akatsuki is weak when Tobi was able to control 7 bijus through Gedo mazo and sealed a piece of Hachibi's with only Kisame and Zetsu aiding him.

Nagato at his first try sealed sealed an army of shinobis and he is able to seal a biju while using astral projection jutsu and a live substitution justu at the same time.

No one in akatsuki is weak but I will admit that Rinnegan Madara is really strong. Maybe slightly weaker than Rinnegan Sasuke/Rsm Naruto strong.

 

[123fire]

Uchiha are up there fam

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[HowDidIGetPrem]

That's just the sage talking nonsense or you're misunderstanding the words he meant Rokudo chakra. Madara has already awakened Rokudo chakra prior to death so even without Indra Ashura chakra he would still have Rokudo chakra. That's evidenced by the fact that he could still use the outer path and yin yang release even without the Rinnegan as he did when training Obito.

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Here Hashirama confirming Rokudo Madara is not at EMS Madara in power by saying he's regaining his former strength. The reason for that is since Indra and Ashura have migrated on he doesn't have their chakra but he does have a weakened form of Rokudo chakra.

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Here Rokudo confirms prior to the end of cycle Madara had awakened his chakra.

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Here the sage confirms that he's no longer the Indra transmigrant in other words Indra's chakra's passed on. And Madara's using the 10 tails to gain Rokudo power and even his mothers (Rinne sharingan).

I hope it's clearer now.

Nah. The Sage has clearly said that Ashura and Indra's chakra were part of what summoned him, so Madara's legs must've had them. He went on and shows that the transmigrants' influence is seen by their

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, and if a whole new chakra is formed it reasons to say that that chakra is no longer any transmigrant. Hagoromo even distinguishes the Ten Tails' chakra from Indra's and Ashura's meaning Obito truly didn't have Ashura and Indra's by extension of being the host and containing "Rikudo Chakra."(I think there's a distinction between it and Six Paths' Chakra)

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Giving reason to believe there is a difference between what Madara had before becoming a host and what Ten Tails' hosts receive(you didn't see Non-Host Rikudo Chakra Madara floating nor Sasuke). Ultimately, the powers aren't what matters so much as the opportunity posed to Madara. Akatsuki had to weed out beasts and had members with their own quirks and agendas beyond taking beasts, and Madara had all the beasts laid out in front of him with the means to absorb them quickly.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Nah. The Sage has clearly said that Ashura and Indra's chakra were part of what summoned him, so Madara's legs must've had them. He went on and shows that the transmigrants' influence is seen by their

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, and if a whole new chakra is formed it reasons to say that that chakra is no longer any transmigrant. Hagoromo even distinguishes the Ten Tails' chakra from Indra's and Ashura's meaning Obito truly didn't have Ashura and Indra's by extension of being the host and containing "Rikudo Chakra."(I think there's a distinction between it and Six Paths' Chakra)

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Giving reason to believe there is a difference between what Madara had before becoming a host and what Ten Tails' hosts receive(you didn't see Non-Host Rikudo Chakra Madara floating nor Sasuke). Ultimately, the powers aren't what matters so much as the opportunity posed to Madara. Akatsuki had to weed out beasts and had members with their own quirks and agendas beyond taking beasts, and Madara had all the beasts laid out in front of him with the means to absorb them quickly.

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The scan you proivded confirms that the transmigrants chakra clings to the transmigrant in other word no transmigrant chakra = no transmigrant.

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The sage confirms Madara is no longer transmigrant of Indra in other words no Indra chakra. That's why he also made reference to him using the 10 tails to try and reach Hogaromo's power.

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Here Hashirama who knew EMS Madara's level pretty much makes it clear that a Rokudo Madara still isn't at his former(EMS) level.

At this point I'll just be repeating myself so I'll make it brief and I'm out. Madara had Rokudo chakra which was derived from Indra and Ashura's it ceased being their chakra at that point as a new chakra was born. Even if their chakra didn't exist since they transmigrated Rokudo chakra is still there. The distinguishing by Hogaromo of Indra Ashura chakra was to make it's origins clear not that it still exists. And the proof that it's power is weaker than EMS Madara is Hashirama's statement that Rokudo Madara is regaining his former power. The sage also made reference to needing the 10 tails which would amp up his rokudo chakra to the necessary levels.

Goals aside were talking about sealing Madara gave Nagato his Rokudo Rinnegan and Obito his rokudo 6 paths rod which would replicate his chakra power. Now with those they still took 3 days sealing a tailed beast that includes the non host 3 tails. Madara seperate or forced the seperation of two jin from their Bijuu and sealed them alongside the 7 others in mere moments there's a clear difference in ability.