Akamaru and Sakura vs Asuma and Elder Monkey Enma

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lmao, Jiraya was also hit by a serious tsunade with her base, it put him near death but didn't shatter all his bones... now.. tsunade's ENHANCED 5... then that's a diff story

Her ENCHANTED strength would be more than 5, because her base strength is 5.
 

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Her ENCHANTED strength would be more than 5, because her base strength is 5.
I believe his point was that Base Tsunade=Enhanced Sakura

Jiraiya survived a punch from Tsunade in her base and survived, so an enhanced punch from Sakura (which is equally powerful) is not going to shatter diamonds
 

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A punch doesn't have to shatter someone's bones to kill them. I'm quite sure a powerful enough attack even if it can't break diamond can put enma out of commission.
 

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I believe his point was that Base Tsunade=Enhanced Sakura

Jiraiya survived a punch from Tsunade in her base and survived, so an enhanced punch from Sakura (which is equally powerful) is not going to shatter diamonds

Why? Why do you think Tsunade's punch was full powered? She just wanted to lecture and not to kill him.
 

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A punch doesn't have to shatter someone's bones to kill them. I'm quite sure a powerful enough attack even if it can't break diamond can put enma out of commission.

That is true, but If jiraya could survive a punch from base tsunade without any sort of defense other than his normal bone structure, why wouldn't enma, who has one of the best defenses in the manga, not survive an attack from sakura?

It doesn't make sense, someone can survive the attack with no defense... with defense , with a diamond hard defense , imo it wouldn't do them anything
 

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Why? Why do you think Tsunade's punch was full powered? She just wanted to lecture and not to kill him.
okok, so in the end, your argument for Sakura beating Enma is because her punches can beak through diamonds, and because she managed to hit a few puppets when Sasori was controlling 100 at a time ?
 

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That is true, but If jiraya could survive a punch from base tsunade without any sort of defense other than his normal bone structure, why wouldn't enma, who has one of the best defenses in the manga, not survive an attack from sakura?

It doesn't make sense, someone can survive the attack with no defense... with defense , with a diamond hard defense , imo it wouldn't do them anything

Obviously she isn't going to hit Jiraya seriously...
 

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Based on how Jiraiya's condition was afterwards, I'd say it was pretty serious...

but you can't prove she went full out base on him..
 

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Obviously she isn't going to hit Jiraya seriously...

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Six broken ribs , broken arm, ruptured organs ..Right.. she may not have went "Serious" , but we know she at least used her base strength to do such a thing

The burden of proof is on you
 

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You can't prove she didn't..it works both ways.


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can Tsunade destroy Enma with a full powered punch?
idk, probably yea, it may not kill him, but he might suffer damage like Jiraya, maybe not as much though, it would bruise him alot
 
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Yup.
So what do you think, can Tsunade destroy Enma with a full powered punch?
Doubt it, since Enma's literally as hard as diamonds when transformed. However, her full powered punch would do a lotmore than a full powered punch from Sakura
 

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If Tsunade landed a direct full powered hit Enma would be fodderized :|
 

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If Tsunade landed a direct full powered hit Enma would be fodderized :|
If he's in base form, he'd be broken in pieces. If he's in staff form, she might get through him, it could really go either way.

However, that does not mean that Sakura'd get the same results out of a full powered punch.
 

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If he's in base form, he'd be broken in pieces. If he's in staff form, she might get through him, it could really go either way.

However, that does not mean that Sakura'd get the same results out of a full powered punch.

I agree with the Sakura part but if Tsunade fails she just does it again because he will be hurt..

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I agree with the Sakura part but if Tsunade fails she just does it again because he will be hurt..

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Yeah, when I think about it, Tsunade would probably get through, since we've seen her crush the ground with one finger xd
 
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