[Discussion] Akainu vs Blackbeard&Sabo

[Madarauchiwa]

I edited and like i've said running away isn't necessarly for fear

there was a point he needed a ship. so why didn't he face akainu if he coulda beat him as you say while his whole crew was there? he could have gotten rid of a powerful enemy and acquired a well built military warship which was his goal by trading bonny.

he ran because he was scared and would have died i don't understand how you don't get that

 

[Red Swag]

1. akainu

2. bb since by this time hes already mastered yami fruit plus with an upgrade of haki and wb's power. akainus punches would now be useless to bb.

 

[Bogard]

there was a point he needed a ship. so why didn't he face akainu if he coulda beat him as you say while his whole crew was there? he could have gotten rid of a powerful enemy and acquired a well built military warship which was his goal by trading bonny.

he ran because he was scared and would have died i don't understand how you don't get that

1- He wasn't sure to win. Even if you are on the same level with someone and that you are about to engage yourself in a death fight, it's not worth. It's no wonder no yonkous engage themselves against each other. Kaido retracted from Shanks for a reason

2- Even if he could win, it would last long, maybe even days. Meantime Whitebeard territories were free. His main objective was to conquer them as fast as possible(considering other yonkous or other pirates could have take the time to conquer them meanwhile) making himself known and being closer to his goal(the one piece). He was still a no-name pirate with 0berry over his head

3- Even if he won, he would be in a critical state. Any other pirate could take advantage of this to finish him off, ruining his just starting goal/ambition

It's that simple really. Running from Akainu doesn't necessarly mean he was weaker. Eventhough i do think he was weaker i don't think it was by much judging by his performance in Marineford against legends like Sengoku and Garp. It was just not worth it

 

[Madarauchiwa]

1- He wasn't sure to win. Even if you are on the same level with someone and that you are about to engage yourself in a death fight, it's not worth. It's no wonder no yonkous engage themselves against each other. Kaido retracted from Shanks for a reason

2- Even if he could win, it would last long, maybe even days. Meantime Whitebeard territories were free. His main objective was to conquer them as fast as possible(considering other yonkous or other pirates could have take the time to conquer them meanwhile) making himself known and being closer to his goal(the one piece). He was still a no-name pirate with 0berry over his head

3- Even if he won, he would be in a critical state. Any other pirate could take advantage of this to finish him off, ruining his just starting goal/ambition

It's that simple really. Running from Akainu doesn't necessarly mean he was weaker. Eventhough i do think he was weaker i don't think it was by much judging by his performance in Marineford against legends like Sengoku and Garp. It was just not worth it

his performance in MF? you mean showing up at the end and ambushing a critically wounded old man who still managed to pound his face in? yeah BB did real well. honestly idk why I'm having this conversation after I've posted proof that BB himself said he wasn't ready to fight akainu and you haven't provided a shred of evidence that BB can fight him to the point of high diff let alone actually win.

 

[Hexuze]

Scenario 1 - Akainu wins no-diff.
Scenario 2 - Akainu wins high-diff.

 

[Bogard]

his performance in MF? you mean showing up at the end and ambushing a critically wounded old man who still managed to pound his face in? yeah BB did real well. honestly idk why I'm having this conversation after I've posted proof that BB himself said he wasn't ready to fight akainu and you haven't provided a shred of evidence that BB can fight him to the point of high diff let alone actually win.

I said performance against Garp and Sengoku. They couldn't stop him and he injured the latter(after the war we see Sengoku with bandages)

 

[~Kami no Itachi~]

Sabo doesn't need BB

Sabo's going to murder Akainu at the EOS after all

only a brain dead fool will deny this

 

[Anduril]

Scenario 1: Teach and sabo win mid to high diff
Scenario 2: Teach and Sabo stomp

 

[A v i]

S1: Akainu

S2: Team BB.

 

[Aømine]

Both goes for Akainu.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Akainu would stopm first scenario.

I'm not sure about the second tho. I would lean toward team two only because they outnumber him.

 

[sravan]

1.akainu mid-high diff
2.BB & sabo mid diff

 

[jiraiya lives]

1. Akainu low diff
2. Akainu mid to high diff

 

[Anduril]

Jeez Akainu is so overrated and Teach and Sabo are so underrated. Base Teach gave shanks his only scar, yami Teach caught Ace mid diff. Whereas Sabo's dragon claw is dangerous. Considering Sabo is the only guy I have seen who destroyed a vice admiral no diff at all. Even smoker was still concious when joker was through with him.

 

[jiraiya lives]

Jeez Akainu is so overrated and Teach and Sabo are so underrated. Base Teach gave shanks his only scar, yami Teach caught Ace mid diff. Whereas Sabo's dragon claw is dangerous. Considering Sabo is the only guy I have seen who destroyed a vice admiral no diff at all. Even smoker was still concious when joker was through with him.

I laughed so hard at the bold part haha

We don't even know how powerful shanks was at the time that blackbeard gave him that scar. For all we know shanks could of been fodder at the time and blackbeard could of been stronger than him. Characters get stronger over time. For Example: just because Sanji got his leg cracked by vergo does that mean vergo will prove a challenge for Sanji later down the road after he's gotten stronger?..Also Shanks lost an arm trying to save Luffy from a sea king so BB giving him a scar isn't really a big deal. Hell even whitebeard received a stab to the chest by squado (how ever you spell his name).

VA's vary in strength dramatically, For all we know Bastille could of been one of the weaker VA's. Also It was implied that bartolomeo no diff'ed maynard, WB no diff'ed John Giant and rose (that's to be expected since he's WB though lol), Even Momanga was helpless and had to stab is hand just to not be affected by Hancock's power.

 

[Anduril]

We don't even know how powerful shanks was at the time that blackbeard gave him that scar. For all we know shanks could of been fodder at the time and blackbeard could of been stronger than him.

If this was the case he (Shanks) would not have given that scar so much importance as to tell it to whitebeard while making it clear that he was not fooling around when he got that scar. Shanks knew teach was strong. Also the fact that teach taunted shanks on the same scar, highlights the importance of that scar. So it was not a simple fodder got scar.

Characters get stronger over time. For Example: just because Sanji got his leg cracked by vergo does that mean vergo will prove a challenge for Sanji later down the road after he's gotten stronger?

Well as long as vergo remains put and does not get stronger that logic works.

..Also Shanks lost an arm trying to save Luffy from a sea king so BB giving him a scar isn't really a big deal. Hell even whitebeard received a stab to the chest by squado (how ever you spell his name).

Watch this at 3:28,
[video=youtube;coh52RaVxuM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coh52RaVxuM[/video]
Shanks was pretty clear that he was not at all careless or goofing around when he got that scar and tried to highlight the importance of it.

VA's vary in strength dramatically, For all we know Bastille could of been one of the weaker VA's. Also It was implied that bartolomeo no diff'ed maynard, WB no diff'ed John Giant and rose (that's to be expected since he's WB though lol), Even Momanga was helpless and had to stab is hand just to not be affected by Hancock's power.

No matter how much the VA stregth may vary, I have never seen a VA getting punked like they were by WB in marineford, by dofy in PH and Sabo on dressrosa.

Bartolomeo is a separate case, since his DF is a unique one. The number of people who could destroy his barrier may be just a handfull, and the fact that most of them get caught unaware get their wrist broken.