[Discussion] Akainu has the best feats in one piece
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And what political reasons was this. If thats the case Kizaru wouldn't even attempted to atk him
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It's unclear why, but the World Government/Gorosei want the institutions of the Three Powers to continue to exist as they do currently. According to the Gorosei, upsetting that balance would have profound effects across the world[
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].By the end of this war, they lost one of the Emperors and three of the Warlords. Because the WG wants to maintain the balance of the Yonko, Seven Warlords, and the Marine HQ, they would gain absolutely nothing from fighting Shanks. If they won, then they'd be upsetting this important balance even more, especially since Yonko is arguably the hardest facet of this balance to replace, by killing or defeating Shanks. If they lost, well, then they lost, and would probably lose a top figure or two in the process permanently. Akainu not fighting Shanks wasn't just "Oh no, I can't contend with this man," it's because he's bound by duty, and his duty did not extend to fighting other Emperors. It's even mentioned that the only reason they went to war with Whitebeard was because they knew Whitebeard coming to fight was inevitable, but they needed to deal with it because Ace's death was more important.
Kizaru never attacked any of the Red-Haired Pirates. What manga are you reading?
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Kizaru never attacked the red haired pirates? Then who did Ben Beckman stop? Some fodder i guess then lol. Now that does make some sense about the balance but its more of the pirates wanting to keep this balance especially shanks since he never tries to kill a marine not one pirate just goes to attack the marines. Like Roger said what good is it being a pirate if you can do what you want. Now going back to your claim its the WG trying to keep the balance then that completely discredits Garp when he said the execution of Roger was to discourage future pirates. Also why would sengoku be mad about WB confirming the existence of OP. And why would the marines be so adamant about killing every last pirate at Marineford. If its hard to replace a yonko and they clearly seen luffy had that potential why make such an extreme effort to kill him? Your theory makes no sense. Akainu only was willing to fight WB because everyone knew he was sick. He wanted no problems with a healthy yonko. When he couldnt even beat a sick and injured WB. Besides marineford could be rebuilt after the battle even sengoku said this so that also wasnt a reason for akainu not to fight Shanks.
Shanks solos. He isnt my favorite character but he is boss any yonko shits on akainu
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Kizaru was aiming an attack at Luffy and Law. Beckman pointed a gun at him, and Kizaru leapt into the air and attacked LAW'S SUBMARINE. He never attacked Beckman or any other member of Shanks' crew.
The balance of power didn't exist back then. It wasn't until the Great Age of Piracy, started by Roger's death, that all this came about. The World Government is the one that wants the power to exist, as evident by the scan I linked.
The death of One Emperor caused a massive power vaccuum as shown in the scan below.
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Why would the Marines let this happen TWICE?
Because this led to an insurgence of piracy. Roger starting the rumor that One Piece existed led to the Great Age of Piracy. The One Piece wasn't something that was confirmed to have existed until WB said it, and that caused an increase in piracy, as shown in the following scan.
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They never said this about Luffy. Akainu wanted to kill Luffy because of eugenics, him having the blood of Dragon.
You have zero proof of this when there's more proof that fighting Shanks carried no benefit to the Marines.
Except he beat Whitebeard in his best state at Marineford.
Rebuilding Marineford has nothing to do with the balance of power falling if they defeated Shanks.
Claim that WG is trying to keep the balance ?
That is not a claim mate, that is black on white in the manga. Also don't see how that discredits Garp, or what the problem would be with killing the pirates at marineford.
It is a system that keeps the entre world in check. Without a new pirate era they wouldn't even need such a system to begin with.
The perfect demonstration is given by Big Mom now where the 4 big fish in the New World eat all the smaller fish and prevent pirates like Luffy from growing and becoming Pirate King. I wouldn't be surprised if the WG gave both Kaidou and Linlin their Road Poneglyph to make it impossible for people to reach Raftel from now on.
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You have no proof that he was aiming at luffy? Why stop hik then but dont stop him when he lunges in the air or try to stop aikoji's attack. That makes no sense.U could be right about sengoku and the one piece part. And akainu also said he needs to be eliminated after Luffy displayed conquerors haki. Also Marco confirmed this when the clashed akainu to protect luffy. How does not fighting shanks and letting him take WB and Ace's body from them benefit them? When killing him on live tv so to speak would bring ease to the regular citizens watching. And one vice admiral even was upset that shanks was kind of shitting on their victory. He didnt beat whitebeard at his best whitebeard practically fought all admirals. Was stabbed. Was shot. Had holes from Kizaru and all. Still akainu lost. Another important fact is doffy said the Marines are taking over the seas wouldn't taking shanks out help this effort??? Lol
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It is a claim the only ppl that was shown to want the balance is pirates.and it discredits garp exactly how i explained. If they wanted to discourage pirates why promote having the yonko. You're basically saying the marines wanted the new pirate era. If thats the case my next question comes into play why hide the existence of one piece?.And the marines dont depend on the big fishes eat the little fish. They do their own hunting and scouting. And why give a yonko a clue to the one piece which could be a weapon that could destroy them. Wouldn't that also tilt the balance of power. Or maybe start a war between two yonko who are apart of this so called balance if theirs?
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I said it as a joke before, but I'm genuinely curious now: What ****ing manga are YOU reading?
Not could be, I'm definitely right. The scan right there shows that there were people who didn't believe in One Piece, and Whitebeard's words spurred them to go look for it more, something Sengoku, a man of great knowledge, would be aware of.
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Akainu always equates Luffy to "Dragon's son." He already said Luffy needed to be eliminated because he was Dragon's son before Luffy displayed Haoshoku.
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That was already accomplished without parading around Whitebeard's body.
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This was one of the Marines that were going above and beyond. As noted by Coby, Tashigi, and Smoker, that was a bad look for the Marines because it made them look like bloodthirsty murderers.
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When Akainu landed the blow to Whitebeard's chest and stepped back and let fodder stab and shoot him, Akainu took the W. I'm not talking about the second time they clashed. And I use that wording because that wasn't a fight.
"Lost" is an inaccurate term. WB jumped Akainu. Sneak attacks are never valid fights.
Doffy didn't say that.
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He said they "reign supreme." And taking out Shanks would cause a power vaccuum, just like with Whitebeard, which is never a good thing.
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The scan u showed with kizaru stopping is when coby interrupted him. The second he was aiming at shanks who just stopped akainu. Why be worried about half dead luffy when a yonko could kill an admiral. Even after shanks stop akainu Kizaru stated "no i dont think so" who was he talking about then? Still luffy??
And yea akainu did want to kill Luffy because he was dragons son the same way they feared ace's potential because of their bloodline. But also because he could be a great threat if he learns how to control his haki.
The citizens would be happy anyways since WB no longer roams the seas but letting shanks another "terror of the sea" take their prize would bring shame to the marines especially letting it happen at Marine HQ and at the biggest war of that decade.
And the marines had the bloodlust because of akainu he and sengoku ordered the elimination of all pirates the others was doing their job.
Also WB was stabbed by Squardo before he entered the fight. And if your saying WB cheap shotted akainu thats irrelevant because akainu also landed a cheap shot when he punched WB. Kizaru landed one as well. Like a said had akainu and WB fought one on one when WB first got there he would have been dead. Je lost to WB. Jumped means more than one person. WB didnt jump him and actually waited for him to turn around.
Also reigning supreme is the same as ruling it lol. What balance is there if they rule the seas. And also of the balance is important why take doffy into custody who is apart of the systems.
Dude u know alot about OP. Im not saying im completely right im trying to answer questions i have on the points you brought up. It just doesn't make sense to me
And yea akainu did want to kill Luffy because he was dragons son the same way they feared ace's potential because of their bloodline. But also because he could be a great threat if he learns how to control his haki.
The citizens would be happy anyways since WB no longer roams the seas but letting shanks another "terror of the sea" take their prize would bring shame to the marines especially letting it happen at Marine HQ and at the biggest war of that decade.
And the marines had the bloodlust because of akainu he and sengoku ordered the elimination of all pirates the others was doing their job.
Also WB was stabbed by Squardo before he entered the fight. And if your saying WB cheap shotted akainu thats irrelevant because akainu also landed a cheap shot when he punched WB. Kizaru landed one as well. Like a said had akainu and WB fought one on one when WB first got there he would have been dead. Je lost to WB. Jumped means more than one person. WB didnt jump him and actually waited for him to turn around.
Also reigning supreme is the same as ruling it lol. What balance is there if they rule the seas. And also of the balance is important why take doffy into custody who is apart of the systems.
Dude u know alot about OP. Im not saying im completely right im trying to answer questions i have on the points you brought up. It just doesn't make sense to me
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He was aiming at Law's submarine, as evident by the fact that immediately preceding Kizaru trying to shoot, the panel was Law's submarine.
Because the order was to make sure the son of Dragon doesn't escape.
He didn't say that. This is the page immediately before Kizaru is interrupted by Beckman. He's looking at Luffy and Law's submarine, and said no words.
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Except it didn't. First you say they needed the bodies because it would bring easement. When I show you chapters of the citizens celebrating long after the war ended, you're changing it to "it brings shame," even though the scan I posted shows people praising the Navy and soldiers saying they can't wait to be on the level to be brought into Marineford.
This doesn't contradict my point. The marines were bloodlusted because of Akainu, but it was a bad look. If they had continued on with the war, they would have painted themselves in an extremely negative light. That, along with the chaos that would unfold from killing or arresting Shanks, is in no way beneficial to the WG, especially when they were in the middle of a crisis with Shichibukai and Impel Down escapees, plus Blackbeard taking WB's power.
And Whitebeard himself stated that the stab didn't hurt him, so it didn't affect his capabilities whatsoever.
That's not a cheap shot. WB was engaging Akainu when he caught the heart attack. WB's stamina dropping is a weakness, exploiting a weakness does not invalidate a fight.
This is also not a cheap-shot, because WB tried to blindside Kizaru, and Kizaru caught on and attacked him back. It was a failed cheap-shot attempt from Whitebeard.
No he didn't. Anime is bullshit. This is what happened in the manga:
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Because Doflamingo's crimes in Dressrosa became public. If the WG continued to employ him as a Warlord, they'd be going against their own morals and they'd be seen as continuing to reward someone whose crimes have reached unforgivable; they'd lose the faith of the world.