[VS] Aizen takes the sternritter Gaunlet

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Stage 1 Mask de & Ryod Lyod(Ywach Cloned)

Stage 2 Bambietta, Giselle & Pepe

Stage 3 As Nodt, Pernida & Bazz B

Stage 4 Gremmy & Askin

Stage 5 Jugram & Uryu

Stage 6 Lillie Barro & Gerard Valkyrie

Stage 7 Ywach (Almighty)

Scenario 1 Current Aizen

Scene 2 Hogyoku Aizen (immortality restricted)
 
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Great thread current aizen stops at ywach the all mighty in my opinon with hogyouku aizen stopping in the same fight albeit higher difficulty the remaining sternritter fall to piecees before kyouka suigetsu ywach himself was trolled hard by this sword so i see no reason why any of the other sternritter fair any better
 

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clears 1,2,3. He has to kill Pernida before he activates his haxx. He can kill Gremmy the same way Kenpachi did but with Askin it'll be tough. Aizen has shown he is not invulnerable to quincy powers as shown with Nanana. If he can overcome the Deathdealing then he can win. Stage 5-he can take out Uryu quickly. Haschwalth's hax would be really troublesome. If he keeps injuring him he can reverse it back and if Haschwalth gets a hit in and Aizen regens he can use the Balance again because Aizen had a fortunate event. Aizen can probably outlast.
stage 6- Aizen has to kill them like Nimaya did. If not he has no way to kill Gerard and vice versa.
Stage 7-Yhwach wins.

S2: Since Aizen isn't immortal quincy hax will be much more effective. Urahara said Aizen was stronger than when he was against Ichigo, but the Underbelly still effected him.

1. Aizen wins
2. Aizen wins
3. Aizen wins if he takes out Pernida before hax activates.
4. Gremmy dies but Askin may actually put Aizen down with the death dealing.
5. Jugram and Uryu win. If Aizen evolves then Jugram could screw him through hax because it was a fortunate event.
6. Aizen isn't immortal but Gerard is.
7. Yhwach wins.
EDIT: Forgot about KS lol. He can troll Uryu/Haschwalth with that. He can potentially defeat Yhwach but he is immortal because the Almighty revives him. Lille and Gerard are still immortal/untouchable tho. As long as Aizen is in the range deathdealing still effects him regardless of KS or not.
 
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Scenario 1: TYBW arc Aizen clears-ish. He can solo every Sternritter barring Yhwach at once with his reiatsu. In a 1v1 battle, I doubt Pre-SK Yhwach w/Almighty has the power to affect Aizen who was powerful enough to no-sell an attack from a far stronger Yhwach. Even more so if Aizen can interfere with the Almighty via KS. Post-Sk Yhwach wins though.

Scenario 2: A mortal Monster Aizen can beat anyone except for Vollstandig 2 Gerard and Yhwach
 

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Great thread current aizen stops at ywach the all mighty in my opinon with hogyouku aizen stopping in the same fight albeit higher difficulty the remaining sternritter fall to piecees before kyouka suigetsu ywach himself was trolled hard by this sword so i see no reason why any of the other sternritter fair any better

Your logic fails Just because he can fool ywach with Kyouka suigetsu does not mean he can do the rest in especially since Aizen have to deliver the finishing blow himself. People Forget everytime someone is caught with Kyouka suigetsu Aizen usually finishes them off with sword slashes none of which can hurt most of the stern ritters.

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Stage 1 Mask de & Ryod Lyod(Ywach Cloned)

Mask is really hard to kill i honestly don't see how Aizen would put him down but Aizen takes the majority.

Stage 2 Bambietta, Giselle & Pepe

Aizen stomps


Stage 3 As Nodt, Pernida & Bazz B

Pernida could solo Aizen cannot put him down he just keep breaking down and breaking down to smaller fingers and twist his body apart.

Stage 4 Gremmy & Askin

I say stalemate Aizen takes down gremmy but is killed by the the gift ball eplosion

Stage 5 Jugram & Uryu

I don't see how Aizen can win Jugram can turn on the good fortune against him and if he messes them up real bad uryu can reverse all of that on him.

Stage 6 Lillie Barro & Gerard Valkyrie

They both could solo Barro may be effected but he is immortal and intangible and his trumpet can cover a Aoe and erase Aizen from existence, Gerard is just not going to die he eventually kills Aizen remember Aizen's Kyouka Suigetsu can only make him appear as different people while Lillie and Gerard are both immortals and attacks won't kill each other so Aizen would die.
 

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Scenario 1: TYBW arc Aizen clears-ish. He can solo every Sternritter barring Yhwach at once with his reiatsu.

Are you serious his reiatsu had 0 effects on Ichigo and Uryu in this fight

Gerard gets solod by reiatsu? how

Lillie gets solod by reiatsu? How

Uryu and Jugram being solod by reiatsu is a joke hell Kenpachi has monster reiatsu and his bankai yet he could not solo the 2nd form of gerard.

Reiatsu is not soloing any top tier if that was case juha bach could have did that to lilotto and Gisellew without actually getting off his chair.

In a 1v1 battle, I doubt Pre-SK Yhwach w/Almighty has the power to affect Aizen who was powerful enough to no-sell an attack from a far stronger Yhwach. Even more so if Aizen can interfere with the Almighty via KS. Post-Sk Yhwach wins though.

Now ywach without the soul king cannot affect Aizen what he 1 shotted Ichibei a war potential with Almighty alone how will it not effect Aizen

Scenario 2: A mortal Monster Aizen can beat anyone except for Vollstandig 2 Gerard and Yhwach

How does that form beat Lillie? Uryu? Jugram? Askin? etc c,mon now
 

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Current Aizen cleans up everyone comfortably. Kyoka Suigetsu, Rikujokoro (or some other binding Bakudo), combined with Kurohitsugi or Goryusenmetsu is enough to totally annihilate.

Hogyoku Aizen will not defeat Yhwach or Gerard. His god complex and inferior firepower makes most of the battles much harder as well.
 

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Your logic fails Just because he can fool ywach with Kyouka suigetsu does not mean he can do the rest in especially since Aizen have to deliver the finishing blow himself. People Forget everytime someone is caught with Kyouka suigetsu Aizen usually finishes them off with sword slashes none of which can hurt most of the stern ritters.



Mask is really hard to kill i honestly don't see how Aizen would put him down but Aizen takes the majority.



Aizen stomps




Pernida could solo Aizen cannot put him down he just keep breaking down and breaking down to smaller fingers and twist his body apart.



I say stalemate Aizen takes down gremmy but is killed by the the gift ball eplosion



I don't see how Aizen can win Jugram can turn on the good fortune against him and if he messes them up real bad uryu can reverse all of that on him.



They both could solo Barro may be effected but he is immortal and intangible and his trumpet can cover a Aoe and erase Aizen from existence, Gerard is just not going to die he eventually kills Aizen remember Aizen's Kyouka Suigetsu can only make him appear as different people while Lillie and Gerard are both immortals and attacks won't kill each other so Aizen would die.

I think with KS he can troll Haschwalth and Uryu. Uryu will deal damage to Haschwalth thinking he is Aizen but Haschwalth who is hyponotized can see Uryu as Aizen and accidently use the Balance on his ally. Unless the fact that Aizen benefits from his trickery can be used against him. Do the sternritters have info on KS?
 

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No form of Aizen can beat Gerard simple. Hoguyoku Aizen was impressed with Ichigo blade shockwaves blowing away mountains. Gerard valkrye in this form was far above meteor level .

KS is only use full in a group fight
 

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No form of Aizen can beat Gerard simple. Hoguyoku Aizen was impressed with Ichigo blade shockwaves blowing away mountains. Gerard valkrye in this form was far above meteor level .

KS is only use full in a group fight

Swinging a sword near a mountain and that mountain disintegrating is significantly better than punching a mountain and that mountain cracking.
 

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Why are people saying current Aizen >> Karakura arc Aizen ?? I seriously think i missed something important here
 

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Are you serious his reiatsu had 0 effects on Ichigo
Not sure why Ichigo is relevant in this fight.

and Uryu in this fight


Gerard gets solod by reiatsu? how

Lillie gets solod by reiatsu? How
Aizen was a SWP for his reiatsu alone. Reiatsu strong enough to nuke the Royal Realm from tens of kilometers away. Reiatsu strong enough to vaporize some of Yhwach's black energy which scared the Schutzstaffel. Reiatsu stronger than when the had when Aizen transcended Shinigami and Hollows. The massive reiatsu difference is large enough to vaporize Lille, Gerard, and Uryu - none of whom are anywhere near as powerful as Aizen.

Uryu and Jugram being solod by reiatsu is a joke hell Kenpachi has monster reiatsu and his bankai yet he could not solo the 2nd form of gerard.
Not relevant when Kenpachi's reiatsu is puny compared to Aizen's. Nor does Kenpachi have Aizen's reiatsu control.

Reiatsu is not soloing any top tier if that was case juha bach could have did that to lilotto and Gisellew without actually getting off his chair.
> Blatant cherry picking. And a faulty example, too.

Now ywach without the soul king cannot affect Aizen what he 1 shotted Ichibei a war potential with Almighty alone how will it not effect Aizen
> Implying Ichibei is anywhere near as powerful as Aizen

Here's the thing. Yhwach can't break things that are beyond his power to do so, as otherwise he would have completely broken Tensa Zangetsu when Ichigo went back to SS. Pre-Sk Yhwach's best feat was one-shotting Ichibei who's spiritual power is not on the same ballpark as Aizen's. and to make matters worse, Aizen has KS. How WILL Yhwach take him down?


How does that form beat Lillie? Uryu? Jugram? Askin? etc c,mon now
KS + Kurohitsugi. None of them has shown the ability to regenerate from vaporization, which is what this gravity torrent that can manipulate space/time does to you.

> lel implying Askin beating Mpnster Aizen


Why are people saying current Aizen >> Karakura arc Aizen ?? I seriously think i missed something important here

You must have, because current Aizen can shoot down the whole Royal Realm with his reiatsu from tens of kilometers away. And the fact that Urahara said that Aizen has surpassed his self when he fought Ichigo.
 

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If we actually gonna not include plot in this fight then gremmy rekts. Without plot gremmy is the strongest sternritter period.
 

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Not sure why Ichigo is relevant in this fight.


Aizen was a SWP for his reiatsu alone. Reiatsu strong enough to nuke the Royal Realm from tens of kilometers away. Reiatsu strong enough to vaporize some of Yhwach's black energy which scared the Schutzstaffel. Reiatsu stronger than when the had when Aizen transcended Shinigami and Hollows. The massive reiatsu difference is large enough to vaporize Lille, Gerard, and Uryu - none of whom are anywhere near as powerful as Aizen.


Not relevant when Kenpachi's reiatsu is puny compared to Aizen's. Nor does Kenpachi have Aizen's reiatsu control.


> Blatant cherry picking. And a faulty example, too.


> Implying Ichibei is anywhere near as powerful as Aizen

Here's the thing. Yhwach can't break things that are beyond his power to do so, as otherwise he would have completely broken Tensa Zangetsu when Ichigo went back to SS. Pre-Sk Yhwach's best feat was one-shotting Ichibei who's spiritual power is not on the same ballpark as Aizen's. and to make matters worse, Aizen has KS. How WILL Yhwach take him down?



KS + Kurohitsugi. None of them has shown the ability to regenerate from vaporization, which is what this gravity torrent that can manipulate space/time does to you.

> lel implying Askin beating Mpnster Aizen




You must have, because current Aizen can shoot down the whole Royal Realm with his reiatsu from tens of kilometers away. And the fact that Urahara said that Aizen has surpassed his self when he fought Ichigo.

Yes i know but when did the bold happen?

Bankai Kenpachi is a friggin monster yet Gerard is stronger than him. I don't think Aizen beats him with "reiatsu"; lmao. That's ridicculous.

EDIT: Lmaoo the Aizen wank is too strong here. You are seriously saying that Aizen >>>> Ichibei? Rofl. First of all, the 5 war potentials are portrayed to be equal in power (With their different abilities).

Get your fanboy ass out of here. Pathetic. Ichibe is equal if not stronger than Aizen.
 
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Yes i know but when did the bold happen?

Bankai Kenpachi is a friggin monster yet Gerard is stronger than him. I don't think Aizen beats him with "reiatsu"; lmao. That's ridicculous.

EDIT: Lmaoo the Aizen wank is too strong here. You are seriously saying that Aizen >>>> Ichibei? Rofl. First of all, the 5 war potentials are portrayed to be equal in power (With their different abilities).

Get your fanboy ass out of here. Pathetic. Ichibe is equal if not stronger than Aizen.

Gerard wasn't stronger than Kenpachi, Kenpachi was stronger than Kenpachi. Gerard was on the wrong end of an asskicking before Kenpachi burned himself out, and that second form would have changed absolutely nothing.

And no, the war potentials are not supposed to be equal in power. At all.
 

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I think with KS he can troll Haschwalth and Uryu. Uryu will deal damage to Haschwalth thinking he is Aizen but Haschwalth who is hyponotized can see Uryu as Aizen and accidently use the Balance on his ally. Unless the fact that Aizen benefits from his trickery can be used against him. Do the sternritters have info on KS?

The Antithesis and Balance does not require sight so kyouka suigetsu is not saving Aizen Once Aizen catches them with Kyouka Suigetsu he will attack them and Uryu's Antithesis redirects all his wounds to the enemy that gave it to him so Jugram would be safe also he would direct both of their misfortune on Aizen which is basically a reality warper attack so dodging is not possible fooling them with kyouka is pointless when cannot overpower them.

Swinging a sword near a mountain and that mountain disintegrating is significantly better than punching a mountain and that mountain cracking.

That was the smallest mountain busting feat in shonen jump history more like a large hill. Kenpachi turned a meteor the size the seritei into fragments with his eye patch on Gerard easily bested kenpachi in a sword slash bout with his eye patch off and won and gerard based on feats hype and everything else would romp dangai ichigo.

Not sure why Ichigo is relevant in this fight.

Because his reiatsu did nothing to ichigo from being near him or to uryu or anyone else (Who was not random fodder) for that matter.


Aizen was a SWP for his reiatsu alone. Reiatsu strong enough to nuke the Royal Realm from tens of kilometers away. Reiatsu strong enough to vaporize some of Yhwach's black energy which scared the Schutzstaffel. Reiatsu stronger than when the had when Aizen transcended Shinigami and Hollows. The massive reiatsu difference is large enough to vaporize Lille, Gerard, and Uryu - none of whom are anywhere near as powerful as Aizen.

False Aizen failed to do anything because he could not unleash his true reiatsu hell mayuri made those seals to restrain it Being a war potentials for his reiatsu does not mean it can solo everyone with pure reiatsu alone stop.
You talk about his reiatsu like Nanaana Underbelly did not work on Aizen. Saying the Elites are anywhere near as powerful as Aizen is a big joke when Lillie and Gerard would take him themselves His reiatsu cannot even touch a intangible lillie and if Nanana can shoot holes in his reiatsu im pretty sure askin can give it a lethal dose.

Scared the Elites lol Barro was the only one and he was shocked and did not know what was happening you can't be serious vaporizing those things is not an impressive feat the shinigami had no problem fighting them they we're nothing more than a annoyance to these things had no power whatsoever just numbers. Aizen also used his most infamous attack Hado 90 to destroy those eyeballs

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Not relevant when Kenpachi's reiatsu is puny compared to Aizen's. Nor does Kenpachi have Aizen's reiatsu control.

Please explain how Kenpachi a man solely known for having immense reiatsu is puny to Aizen's especially when he's in his bankai? only thing Aizen has over bankai ken reiatsu is control.

Blatant cherry picking. And a faulty example, too.

No you just cannot explain it Juha bach who just stomped a war potential then absorbed mimihagi and SK could not one shot them with his reiatsu alone means Aizen soloing much more powerful elites with reiatsu alone is a joke.

Implying Ichibei is anywhere near as powerful as Aizen

What are you serious lol Ichibei is the most likely older than yama and most powerful shinigami he named all
zanpakuto the only zanpakuto to have an evolved form, has the most wisdom in the series and was ragdolling juha bach with ease before the almighty came into affect Ichibei gave Kyouka suigetsu its name taking it away there goes Aizen's best ability. Ichibei > Aizen

Here's the thing. Yhwach can't break things that are beyond his power to do so, as otherwise he would have completely broken Tensa Zangetsu when Ichigo went back to SS. Pre-Sk Yhwach's best feat was one-shotting Ichibei who's spiritual power is not on the same ballpark as Aizen's. and to make matters worse, Aizen has KS. How WILL Yhwach take him down?

Did you not read the lastest chapter Ichigo did not arrive until after Ywach was already ragdolling Aizen so ywach never tried to break Ichigo's sword again and read what you typed ywach snapped Ichigo in a more powerful form bankai with no problem yet he cannot do it now? One shotted a war potential is a feat Aizen is not capable of doing period. Aizen's Kyouka suigetsu is useless he may be able to fool ywach temporarily but he cannot harm him, Ywach was destoying Aizen while under KS influence if it had not been for Ichigo showing up Aizen would be dead by now.



KS + Kurohitsugi. None of them has shown the ability to regenerate from vaporization, which is what this gravity torrent that can manipulate space/time does to you.
> lel implying Askin beating Mpnster Aizen

Hado 90 has not vaporized anyone but those eyeballs which durability is nothing, Ichigo smacked that away like it was nothing in his base dangai form the elites especially gerard physical prowess would literally blow that thing away Lillie would just teleport from it or erase it from existence.

Askin in his base poisoned Ichigo until defeat he can definitely poison monster Aizen thus killing him aswell.




You must have, because current Aizen can shoot down the whole Royal Realm with his reiatsu from tens of kilometers away. And the fact that Urahara said that Aizen has surpassed his self when he fought Ichigo.

Urahara never said that and the only said Aizen had grown stronger even while sealed away.

Gerard wasn't stronger than Kenpachi, Kenpachi was stronger than Kenpachi. Gerard was on the wrong end of an asskicking before Kenpachi burned himself out, and that second form would have changed absolutely nothing.

Shutup All the damage Gerard takes he converts into to power that's why kenpachi striked him in different spots every time Gerard completely evolved that 2nd form would defeated kenpachi and if not his titan form would have.

And no, the war potentials are not supposed to be equal in power. At all.

Yes they are

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Juha bach almight vs Ichigo

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The Almighty destroyed every single war potential it fought Aizen would have suffered the same fate if Ichigo had not saved him in a 1 vs 1 Aizen would have died.

The elites have pushed war potentials

Askin took on Urahara and yorouichi and would have won if not for grimmjow

Gerard took on Kenpachi Hitsugaya and Byakuya and would have still won if not for auswallen.

War potentials with help still can barely take down an elite
 

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Why are people saying current Aizen >> Karakura arc Aizen ?? I seriously think i missed something important here

Urahara said something about him being stronger than when he fought Ichigo. I don't remember what chapter it was but I think it was after he did the hado
 

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Gerard wasn't stronger than Kenpachi, Kenpachi was stronger than Kenpachi. Gerard was on the wrong end of an asskicking before Kenpachi burned himself out, and that second form would have changed absolutely nothing.

And no, the war potentials are not supposed to be equal in power. At all.

Agree on Gerard not being stronger than Kepnachi. If kenpachi got used to his bankai, he'd just keep cutting trough Gerard for all eternity.

And yes, the 5 of them are portrayed to be equal. PORTRAYED, and i did not say power, i said each one with their abilities. If anything at all, Kenpachi is the strongest because he's a war potential because of his strenght, while Aizen is just for his reiatsu. So yes, all of them are at least on the same tier. Aizen being "a lot stronger" than Ichigo, Urahara, Kenpachi or Ichibe is a damn joke and is contradicting Kubo, since power is not just reiatsu (aizen), nor is it just raw power (kenpachi), nor is it windsom (iichibe) or plannings (Urahara).

They all opposed the same threat to the quincies, each one with their own capabilities.
 

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Yes i know but when did the bold happen?

Bankai Kenpachi is a friggin monster yet Gerard is stronger than him. I don't think Aizen beats him with "reiatsu"; lmao. That's ridicculous.
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It was about to happen when Aizen appeared before the Gotei 13 after being in Muken for so long.

Aizen >>> Kenpachi so your point is moot. The latter never reached another level of power like Chrysalis Aizen was portrayed to have. The latter also doesn't have the latter's AoE or spiritual power Here's the facts. Yhwach stated that he was the only one who could handle ZnT's power which means his body must be capable of exerting that same amount of spiritual power. This applies to the Schutzstaffel, including Gerard who didn't show the feats to surpass Yamamoto in power. Therefore, Yamamoto is more powerful than Gerard. Aizen became a transcendent which means his spiritual power/reiatsu is far greater than Yamamoto's, nothing surprising since his own passive reiatsu could disintegrate people. Aizen has grown stronger since then. Facts indicate that Aizen can exert a lot more power than what Gerard's body can handle, probably enough to get his ass vaporized.

Lmaoo the Aizen wank is too strong here. You are seriously saying that Aizen >>>> Ichibei? Rofl. First of all, the 5 war potentials are portrayed to be equal in power (With their different abilities).
ROFFFLLLL. No they weren't. Get that outdated nonsense out of this thread. In no way were the SWPs stated, shown, implied, portrayed, or suggested in anyway to be equals AMONG THEMSELVES. That's fabricated speculation based out of flawed subjective reading. Aizen transcended Shinigami and had reiatsu so great it couldn't be perceived by Isshin, Yoruichi, and Urahara - a SWP himself. Ichibei doesn't. Aizen's KS messed with Almighty. Ichibei's Ichimonji got shat on by Almighty. Feats, hype, portrayal - Aizen trumps Ichibei in all of them.


Get your fanboy ass out of here. Pathetic. Ichibe is equal if not stronger than Aizen.
> goes for the typical fanboy accusation
> claims Ichibei is stronger than someone who performed far better against Yhwach.

I see that facts go over Bleach NB'ers heads as usual. Get out of here.


Because his reiatsu did nothing to ichigo from being near him or to uryu or anyone else (Who was not random fodder) for that matter.

A terrible statement, inspired by ignorance in numerous ways. First off, Bankai Ichigo is the most powerful character in this series in a raw sense or otherwise he wouldn't have one-shotted Soul King Yhwach twice. Not shit he's not afraid of Aizen's reiatsu. Secondly, Aizen (like several reiatsu monsters) has control over his reiatsu and could choose who to affect and who not. Third, Aizen was consumed by Yhwach's darkness so its impact on Uryu is irrelevant.

False Aizen failed to do anything because he could not unleash his true reiatsu hell mayuri made those seals to restrain it Being a war potentials for his reiatsu does not mean it can solo everyone with pure reiatsu alone stop.
You talk about his reiatsu like Nanaana Underbelly did not work on Aizen. Saying the Elites are anywhere near as powerful as Aizen is a big joke when Lillie and Gerard would take him themselves His reiatsu cannot even touch a intangible lillie and if Nanana can shoot holes in his reiatsu im pretty sure askin can give it a lethal dose.
Irrelevant. The point is that Aizen has the power to accomplish the feat with his reiatsu if his bondages are set at normal restriction.Mayuri had to amp the bondage seals to maximum in order to keep Aizen from pushing his reiatsu all the way to the Royal Realm. That's obviously irrelevant in this fight where Mayuri is absent.

NaNaNa's Underbelly affected Aizen because the Underbelly's ability is precisely the bypassing of reiatsu by targeting reiatsu holes. Even worse is that those holes were created by the bondage seals after Mayuri amped their capabilities.

Shunsui sliced Lille's throat with raw reiatsu, yet Aizen cannot with his vastly superior reiatsu? Lel "big joke" my ass. Askin doesn't "lethal dose" reiatsu, he gains immunity to it after consuming a large amount of it into his body. A shame that Askin's body isn't strong enough to handle a blast of reiatsu that could nuke the whole Royal Realm. This is another faulty comparison on your part.

Please explain how Kenpachi a man solely known for having immense reiatsu is puny to Aizen's especially when he's in his bankai? only thing Aizen has over bankai ken reiatsu is control.
> "solely known for having immense reiatsu"
> forgets that Kenpach is a SWP for 'fighting strength'

No, Kenpachi is a beast known for very high stats, including strength, reiatsu, durability, and raw destructive power. The fact that Kenpachi never reached the same dimension in reiatsu that Hogyoku Aizen had shows that there is great gap between the two in reiatsu levels. Bankai Kenpachi is canonically weaker than Vollstandig Gerard, who can't collapse the Royal Realm unlike Aizen and was Auswhalened to amplify Yhwach's power.... same Yhwach Aizen tanked a massive attack from with no damage.


No you just cannot explain it Juha bach who just stomped a war potential then absorbed mimihagi and SK could not one shot them with his reiatsu alone means Aizen soloing much more powerful elites with reiatsu alone is a joke.
The fact that you think Yhwach couldn't rei-crush two mid-tier Sternritters who were in base is the joke. I see cherry-picking like this a lot on the noob lvl.


What are you serious lol Ichibei is the most likely older than yama and most powerful shinigami he named all
zanpakuto the only zanpakuto to have an evolved form, has the most wisdom in the series and was ragdolling juha bach with ease before the almighty came into affect Ichibei gave Kyouka suigetsu its name taking it away there goes Aizen's best ability. Ichibei > Aizen
None of this contradicts Aizen >>>> Ichibei. You're just pointlessly describing ichibei in a hyped-up way. It's irrelevant that ichibei is the most powerful Shinigami when Aizen has transcended the Shinigami plane of existence. Also irrelevant that Ichibei crushed Base Yhwach when Ichibei got negged by Almighty Yhwach, while Aizen tanked a massive attack from a far stronger Yhwach and could mess with the Almighty.

Ichibei taking KS away is irrelevant because Aizen could outburst enough power to nuke the whole Royal Realm, a level of attack that Ichibei's body can't handle. His body gets splattered much like what Yhwach did to him.



Did you not read the lastest chapter Ichigo did not arrive until after Ywach was already ragdolling Aizen
> "ragdolling Aizen"

The only thing dude did was break his chair, which freed Aizen. Aizen came out of the attack casually, unscathed.

so ywach never tried to break Ichigo's sword again
A blatant lie. Read the second last page of Chapter 682 again.

and read what you typed ywach snapped Ichigo in a more powerful form bankai with no problem yet he cannot do it now?
Which is exactly what happened in the second last page of Chapter 682.

One shotted a war potential is a feat Aizen is not capable of doing period.
Blatant argument from disbelief. "I don't believe Aizen can do it, therefore he can't!"

Hado 90 has not vaporized anyone but those eyeballs which durability is nothing, Ichigo smacked that away like it was nothing in his base dangai form the elites especially gerard physical prowess would literally blow that thing away Lillie would just teleport from it or erase it from existence.
Neither of which would happen since they'd be under KS and wouldn't know of Kuroshitsuji's existence. The hell you thought I said "KS + Kuroshitsuji" for?

Askin in his base poisoned Ichigo until defeat he can definitely poison monster Aizen thus killing him aswell.
Another blatant faulty argument. "Askin poisoned Ichigo... therefore he can definitely poison and kill a far far stronger opponent!"


Urahara never said that and the only said Aizen had grown stronger even while sealed away.
He blatantly did.


Yes they are


The Almighty destroyed every single war potential it fought Aizen would have suffered the same fate if Ichigo had not saved him in a 1 vs 1 Aizen would have died.
Lel you're so mentally complicated that you attributed the quote to the wrong person! But regardless, I will respond:

A retarded argument backed by autistic selective picking of scans. They're equal in FEAT, specifically in that they were defeated by the Almighty. That does not mean they are equal in power, especially not when their performances are the same. That's like claiming Hitsugaya, Shunsui, Shinji, Komamura, and Soifon are all equal in speed because they were blitzed by Aizen on the same day. When in reality, that is nowhere near the truth.

The elites have pushed war potentials
Irrelevant.

Askin took on Urahara and yorouichi and would have won if not for grimmjow

Gerard took on Kenpachi Hitsugaya and Byakuya and would have still won if not for auswallen.

War potentials with help still can barely take down an elite
Blatant faulty generalization. "Two SWPs struggled against an Elite, therefore all SWPs would struggle against an Elite!"

I'm done. Both you and EZQ have invented the sillest arguments that only show your respective lack of sight into the truth of the power scheme in Bleach.
 
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Swinging a sword near a mountain and that mountain disintegrating is significantly better than punching a mountain and that mountain cracking.
Who punched a mountain? That mountain that Ichigo busted was extremely small considering the width about 10x that of Ichigo and Aizen's body.( ). That was Ichigo striking feats.( ). The Meteor that Kenpachi completely obliterated was scaled to be bigger or just as big as the soul society.( ).
Kenpachi looked like a dot compared to that meteor.( ). He turned that into crumbs.( ). Kenpachi shikai slash left a small knick in Gerards blade.( ). Not only that but Gerard proved his slicing powers are that above Shikai Kenpachi's in this scan here.( ). So no Gerard first transformation slicing feats are tiers above that of Danagi Ichigo which was enough to damage Hogyoku aizen.
Why are people saying current Aizen >> Karakura arc Aizen ?? I seriously think i missed something important here
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Gerard wasn't stronger than Kenpachi, Kenpachi was stronger than Kenpachi. Gerard was on the wrong end of an asskicking before Kenpachi burned himself out, and that second form would have changed absolutely nothing.

And no, the war potentials are not supposed to be equal in power. At all.
Gerard 2nd form was in-fact going to be stronger than Bankai Kenpachi. We seen the difference in power between his base and first form so why would the jump from first form to 2nd form be any smaller.
Gerard beats Aizen stop whinning kid. His DC and immortality means Aizen gets wrecked.

It was about to happen when Aizen appeared before the Gotei 13 after being in Muken for so long.
Aizen >>> Kenpachi so your point is moot. The latter never reached another level of power like Chrysalis Aizen was portrayed to have. The latter also doesn't have the latter's AoE or spiritual power Here's the facts. Yhwach stated that he was the only one who could handle ZnT's power which means his body must be capable of exerting that same amount of spiritual power. This applies to the Schutzstaffel, including Gerard who didn't show the feats to surpass Yamamoto in power. Therefore, Yamamoto is more powerful than Gerard. Aizen became a transcendent which means his spiritual power/reiatsu is far greater than Yamamoto's, nothing surprising since his own passive reiatsu could disintegrate people. Aizen has grown stronger since then. Facts indicate that Aizen can exert a lot more power than what Gerard's body can handle, probably enough to get his ass vaporized.
Yamamoto isn't more powerful than gerard who is immortal and who would never lose to Yamamoto due to his probability manipulation. Yet Aizen who reiatsu was tiers above Gin was still dealt a heavy blow by him and would have been one shotted if not for his regeneration.

ROFFFLLLL. No they weren't. Get that outdated nonsense out of this thread. In no way were the SWPs stated, shown, implied, portrayed, or suggested in anyway to be equals AMONG THEMSELVES. That's fabricated speculation based out of flawed subjective reading. Aizen transcended Shinigami and had reiatsu so great it couldn't be perceived by Isshin, Yoruichi, and Urahara - a SWP himself. Ichibei doesn't. Aizen's KS messed with Almighty. Ichibei's Ichimonji got shat on by Almighty. Feats, hype, portrayal - Aizen trumps Ichibei in all of them.
Not being perceived by Isshin and Yoruichi isn't that impressive when. Yhwach who is tiers above Yoruichi and Isshin couldn't even perceive Ichibei reiatsu.( ). Almighty cannonly shitted on Aizen all he did was make way for Ichigo to land a hit im pretty sure Ichibei could accomplish the same feat.

Irrelevant. The point is that Aizen has the power to accomplish the feat with his reiatsu if his bondages are set at normal restriction.Mayuri had to amp the bondage seals to maximum in order to keep Aizen from pushing his reiatsu all the way to the Royal Realm. That's obviously irrelevant in this fight where Mayuri is absent.
The fact that Mayuri could make a device strong enough to withstand Aizen reiatsu should tell you that his reiatsu alone isn't soloing any top tiers or elites at that especially Gerard valkyrie who is the heart of the soul king which means he comes from a far more potent being.
 
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