Yes i know but when did the bold happen?
Bankai Kenpachi is a friggin monster yet Gerard is stronger than him. I don't think Aizen beats him with "reiatsu"; lmao. That's ridicculous.
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It was about to happen when Aizen appeared before the Gotei 13 after being in Muken for so long.
Aizen >>> Kenpachi so your point is moot. The latter never reached another level of power like Chrysalis Aizen was portrayed to have. The latter also doesn't have the latter's AoE or spiritual power Here's the facts. Yhwach stated that he was the only one who could handle ZnT's power which means his body must be capable of exerting that same amount of spiritual power. This applies to the Schutzstaffel, including Gerard who didn't show the feats to surpass Yamamoto in power. Therefore, Yamamoto is more powerful than Gerard. Aizen became a transcendent which means his spiritual power/reiatsu is far greater than Yamamoto's, nothing surprising since his own passive reiatsu could disintegrate people. Aizen has grown stronger since then. Facts indicate that Aizen can exert a lot more power than what Gerard's body can handle, probably enough to get his ass vaporized.
Lmaoo the Aizen wank is too strong here. You are seriously saying that Aizen >>>> Ichibei? Rofl. First of all, the 5 war potentials are portrayed to be equal in power (With their different abilities).
ROFFFLLLL. No they weren't. Get that outdated nonsense out of this thread. In no way were the SWPs stated, shown, implied, portrayed, or suggested in anyway to be equals AMONG THEMSELVES. That's fabricated speculation based out of flawed subjective reading. Aizen transcended Shinigami and had reiatsu so great it couldn't be perceived by Isshin, Yoruichi, and Urahara - a SWP himself. Ichibei doesn't. Aizen's KS messed with Almighty. Ichibei's Ichimonji got shat on by Almighty. Feats, hype, portrayal - Aizen trumps Ichibei in all of them.
Get your fanboy ass out of here. Pathetic. Ichibe is equal if not stronger than Aizen.
> goes for the typical fanboy accusation
> claims Ichibei is stronger than someone who performed far better against Yhwach.
I see that facts go over Bleach NB'ers heads as usual. Get out of here.
Because his reiatsu did nothing to ichigo from being near him or to uryu or anyone else (Who was not random fodder) for that matter.
A terrible statement, inspired by ignorance in numerous ways. First off, Bankai Ichigo is the most powerful character in this series in a raw sense or otherwise he wouldn't have one-shotted Soul King Yhwach twice. Not shit he's not afraid of Aizen's reiatsu. Secondly, Aizen (like several reiatsu monsters) has control over his reiatsu and could choose who to affect and who not. Third, Aizen was consumed by Yhwach's darkness so its impact on Uryu is irrelevant.
False Aizen failed to do anything because he could not unleash his true reiatsu hell mayuri made those seals to restrain it Being a war potentials for his reiatsu does not mean it can solo everyone with pure reiatsu alone stop.
You talk about his reiatsu like Nanaana Underbelly did not work on Aizen. Saying the Elites are anywhere near as powerful as Aizen is a big joke when Lillie and Gerard would take him themselves His reiatsu cannot even touch a intangible lillie and if Nanana can shoot holes in his reiatsu im pretty sure askin can give it a lethal dose.
Irrelevant. The point is that Aizen has the power to accomplish the feat with his reiatsu if his bondages are set at normal restriction.Mayuri had to amp the bondage seals to maximum in order to keep Aizen from pushing his reiatsu all the way to the Royal Realm. That's obviously irrelevant in this fight where Mayuri is absent.
NaNaNa's Underbelly affected Aizen because the Underbelly's ability is precisely the bypassing of reiatsu by targeting reiatsu holes. Even worse is that those holes were created by the bondage seals after Mayuri amped their capabilities.
Shunsui sliced Lille's throat with raw reiatsu, yet Aizen cannot with his vastly superior reiatsu? Lel "big joke" my ass. Askin doesn't "lethal dose" reiatsu, he gains immunity to it after consuming a large amount of it into his body. A shame that Askin's body isn't strong enough to handle a blast of reiatsu that could nuke the whole Royal Realm. This is another faulty comparison on your part.
Please explain how Kenpachi a man solely known for having immense reiatsu is puny to Aizen's especially when he's in his bankai? only thing Aizen has over bankai ken reiatsu is control.
> "solely known for having immense reiatsu"
> forgets that Kenpach is a SWP for 'fighting strength'
No, Kenpachi is a beast known for very high stats, including strength, reiatsu, durability, and raw destructive power. The fact that Kenpachi never reached the same dimension in reiatsu that Hogyoku Aizen had shows that there is great gap between the two in reiatsu levels. Bankai Kenpachi is canonically weaker than Vollstandig Gerard, who can't collapse the Royal Realm unlike Aizen and was Auswhalened to amplify Yhwach's power.... same Yhwach Aizen tanked a massive attack from with no damage.
No you just cannot explain it Juha bach who just stomped a war potential then absorbed mimihagi and SK could not one shot them with his reiatsu alone means Aizen soloing much more powerful elites with reiatsu alone is a joke.
The fact that you think Yhwach couldn't rei-crush two mid-tier Sternritters who were in base is the joke. I see cherry-picking like this a lot on the noob lvl.
What are you serious lol Ichibei is the most likely older than yama and most powerful shinigami he named all
zanpakuto the only zanpakuto to have an evolved form, has the most wisdom in the series and was ragdolling juha bach with ease before the almighty came into affect Ichibei gave Kyouka suigetsu its name taking it away there goes Aizen's best ability. Ichibei > Aizen
None of this contradicts Aizen >>>> Ichibei. You're just pointlessly describing ichibei in a hyped-up way. It's irrelevant that ichibei is the most powerful Shinigami when Aizen has transcended the Shinigami plane of existence. Also irrelevant that Ichibei crushed Base Yhwach when Ichibei got negged by Almighty Yhwach, while Aizen tanked a massive attack from a far stronger Yhwach and could mess with the Almighty.
Ichibei taking KS away is irrelevant because Aizen could outburst enough power to nuke the whole Royal Realm, a level of attack that Ichibei's body can't handle. His body gets splattered much like what Yhwach did to him.
Did you not read the lastest chapter Ichigo did not arrive until after Ywach was already ragdolling Aizen
> "ragdolling Aizen"
The only thing dude did was break his chair, which freed Aizen. Aizen came out of the attack casually, unscathed.
so ywach never tried to break Ichigo's sword again
A blatant lie. Read the second last page of Chapter 682 again.
and read what you typed ywach snapped Ichigo in a more powerful form bankai with no problem yet he cannot do it now?
Which is exactly what happened in the second last page of Chapter 682.
One shotted a war potential is a feat Aizen is not capable of doing period.
Blatant argument from disbelief. "I don't believe Aizen can do it, therefore he can't!"
Hado 90 has not vaporized anyone but those eyeballs which durability is nothing, Ichigo smacked that away like it was nothing in his base dangai form the elites especially gerard physical prowess would literally blow that thing away Lillie would just teleport from it or erase it from existence.
Neither of which would happen since they'd be under KS and wouldn't know of Kuroshitsuji's existence. The hell you thought I said "KS + Kuroshitsuji" for?
Askin in his base poisoned Ichigo until defeat he can definitely poison monster Aizen thus killing him aswell.
Another blatant faulty argument. "Askin poisoned Ichigo... therefore he can definitely poison and kill a far far stronger opponent!"
Urahara never said that and the only said Aizen had grown stronger even while sealed away.
He blatantly did.
Yes they are
The Almighty destroyed every single war potential it fought Aizen would have suffered the same fate if Ichigo had not saved him in a 1 vs 1 Aizen would have died.
Lel you're so mentally complicated that you attributed the quote to the wrong person! But regardless, I will respond:
A retarded argument backed by autistic selective picking of scans. They're equal in
FEAT, specifically in that they were defeated by the Almighty. That does not mean they are equal in power, especially not when their performances are the same. That's like claiming Hitsugaya, Shunsui, Shinji, Komamura, and Soifon are all equal in speed because they were blitzed by Aizen on the same day. When in reality, that is nowhere near the truth.
The elites have pushed war potentials
Irrelevant.
Askin took on Urahara and yorouichi and would have won if not for grimmjow
Gerard took on Kenpachi Hitsugaya and Byakuya and would have still won if not for auswallen.
War potentials with help still can barely take down an elite
Blatant faulty generalization. "Two SWPs struggled against an Elite, therefore all SWPs would struggle against an Elite!"
I'm done. Both you and EZQ have invented the sillest arguments that only show your respective lack of sight into the truth of the power scheme in Bleach.