[Discussion] Aizen is stronger than Juha Bach?
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The most logical thing for you to do now, would be rewatch bleach from episode 1 or reread it from chapter 1, and keep rewatching it until you get back to your senses. Also please don't be a retard, Aizen's trancending = surpassing Hollow and Shinigami..going beyond both, so yes he is able to use most hollow abilities aswell as shinigami, ya retard =/
Speaking of yamamoto indeed ._.
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Why mad bro, it's just a fictional character, no need to be that serious because my opinion is different than yours, its really sad to see people like you who get sensetive and serious because of someone opinion in the matter etc lol. now why don't you do something useful with your life instead of insulting other people over a fictional character lol have fun kid xD.
K den. First of all not your "bro"
Who the F said I was being serious? you're the one who suddenly got his panties in a bunch..you simpleton. Is this thread not meant for discussions? oh wait..go ****ing read the title again before you start shitting around.
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Lool, your not mad? That explain the cussing all over your post, oh kids these days xD and Speaking for not meant for the discussion, if that's the case why you took your useless time and replied to my post since it's my related to the discussion, didn't you read the title or your just a sad person who is trying to come up with something from his ass because I said something you don't agree with lol but anyways have fun and if you really wanna waste your time and reply to this, then have fun because I don't have time for kids anymore xD, one more thing, try and cool down it will help you a lot in the future
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Actually you look like the sad one here I'm afraid...all your putting back is 'U Mad?' 'U mad brooo?' when in fact it makes you look stupid due to the fact you couldn't refute anything people replied to you over you going full retard about Yamamoto.Lool, your not mad? That explain the cussing all over your post, oh kids these days xD and Speaking for not meant for the discussion, if that's the case why you took your useless time and replied to my post since it's my related to the discussion, didn't you read the title or your just a sad person who is trying to come up with something from his ass because I said something you don't agree with lol but anyways have fun and if you really wanna waste your time and reply to this, then have fun because I don't have time for kids anymore xD, one more thing, try and cool down it will help you a lot in the future
By saying 'U mad' over and over it just makes you look childish and idiotic not to mention proves you have no understanding over what you where originally arguing over.
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I didn't come here to argue over an anime it's pointless here xD simple as that and people seem to be mad if they curse around because of a fictional character and calling me retarded because I said what's on my mind, who is the childesh here? And why would I discuss to him about the subject if he himself can't even discuss in the first place and yet you just proof my point, people in these forums can't get over other people opinions etc and rely on bashing, but thanks for taking your time for posting yet another thing that isn't about this thread discussion and people say look at the discussion before posting something non related to the thread main discussion oh the irony.
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what makes you think the soul king is stronger than aizen ? Yamamoto stated himself aizen wanted to create the king's key or w/e that thing is called to kill the soul king. Beeing a king doesn't make you the strongest warrior. I'm pretty sure aizen fully evolved beats all except Dangai Ichigo ( and a very small chance for yamamoto bankai )
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To be fair, he tanked Mugetsu.
He went to an earlier form, but ichigo would have been curbstomped if urahara hadnt interfered.
IN MY OPINION AIZEN IS STRONGER THAN JUHA BACH...... I don't think he would even need that transcended power of his against Juha....... His shikai (Kyōka Suigetsu) is in a very different level and i think no one but Aizen knows its true potential and varied use..... He toyed with almost every captains in the karakura town part..... He is also one of the best kido users as he can use very higher level and almost impossible and dangerous ones very proficiently..... Only Dangai Ichigo can beat him........
About Yamamoto Genryusai.... he is the strongest shinigami of soul society... holding the strongest flame type zanpaktou (Ryūjin Jakka)..... It was quite impossible to find someone who can fight on per with him..... except I think Kyurako, Ukitake , Aizen.... Kyurako and Ukitake had to fight together to keep him at bay in his shikai form..... And Aizen was able to defeat him only after he used wanderweiss to make Yamamoto take on his own attacks for protecting karakura town..... But I thik transcended Aizen and Dangai Ichigo would have defeated him easily.... Juha Bach was only able to kill him after taking his bankai.... otherwise he would have faced a hard time defeating him....
Dangai Ichigo (Or FGT ichigo) is the strongest form of Ichigo we have seen so far..... he was stronger than Aizen though Aizen was in complete transcended from.... So in that form he would definitely be able to defeat Yamamoto and other captains including Zuha....=D
About Yamamoto Genryusai.... he is the strongest shinigami of soul society... holding the strongest flame type zanpaktou (Ryūjin Jakka)..... It was quite impossible to find someone who can fight on per with him..... except I think Kyurako, Ukitake , Aizen.... Kyurako and Ukitake had to fight together to keep him at bay in his shikai form..... And Aizen was able to defeat him only after he used wanderweiss to make Yamamoto take on his own attacks for protecting karakura town..... But I thik transcended Aizen and Dangai Ichigo would have defeated him easily.... Juha Bach was only able to kill him after taking his bankai.... otherwise he would have faced a hard time defeating him....
Dangai Ichigo (Or FGT ichigo) is the strongest form of Ichigo we have seen so far..... he was stronger than Aizen though Aizen was in complete transcended from.... So in that form he would definitely be able to defeat Yamamoto and other captains including Zuha....=D
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No ...Aizen knw that he is not at his peak at that movement but he has an idea of what Hogyaku is capable of (ofcourse Hogyaku exceeded his expectations ) ..still he is not confident abt his victory ......if u still want to ignore facts then U can show me a counter for Yamaji's Bankai from Aizen and prove me wrong ...
What are you stupid? What you said (I've highlighted in bold) explains exactly what I'm saying Aizen wasn't certain about his victory against Yamamoto before transcending since Aizen was still just a normal Shinigami then. Aizen had no idea how strong he would become Aizen the moment he transcended became stronger than Yamamoto and I can prove you wrong since it's fact that
I agree before Aizen's transformation Yamamoto could beat him but as soon as Aizen transcended even with Bankai Yamamoto wouldn't touch him since as Aizen described like 2D objects cannot touch 3D objects this was implying Yamamoto was a 2D object and Aizen was a 3D object.
Transcended being > Shinigami.
Even if Yamamoto had his Bankai the moment Aizen transcended he surpassed him same with Ichigo so you can fanboy all you want over Yamamoto he's just a Shinigami not a transcended being, but I suppose if your going to ignore facts like Transcended beings > Shinigami then I suggest you go read the entire series again because you clearly don't understand it due to your blind fanboyism over one character.
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What kind of logic it is ..?
It is a fact yet they can't beat shinigami...????
Iam a fanboy...?
I actually hate the Idea of Yamaji being the strongest shinigami and I prefer Kenpachi over Yamaiji to be the strongest ...
Aizen is the one that has more no of fans & is the most overrated character by his fanboys....
Yamaji > Aizens expectations on Hogyaku but infact Hogyaku final form > Aizens Expectations ....that dosen't mean that Hogyaku final form > Yamaji ..it might be < Yamaji or = Yamaji....
If Yamaji > Aizen only b4 Trans & Trans Aizen /his Expectations > Jamaji....then Aizen would have fought Yamaji since he is a good opponent to test his abilities .....but Aizen didn't do that coz he is not stupid enough to do that since he knw that Yamaji > his Hope .....
What did u say..?
Aizen has no Idea..?
Smartest character in the series besides Urahara has no Idea abt his ultimate goal....?
Hogyaku just exceeded his Exp that dosen't mean that he had no Idea or it >>>>>>>>>his Exp.....
U can't prove me wrong just by usng u r own theories ...show me actual feats or proofs ..nothing from Aizens final form can beat Yamaji's Bankai.....
If everything u can say is Trans beings > Shinigami then plz don't rep me ...
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It's canon fact that Transcended beings > Shinigami. It's not even debatable since it's stated by multiple characters, When Aizen transcended Urahara, Yoruichi and Isshin couldn't feel his power because it had increased that much and he transformed three more times after that also increasing his power.
Also you keep saying I have nothing to prove this with and your right because Yamamoto never battled Aizen with his Bankai however Ichigo's Mugetsu completely annihilates anything Yamamoto's attacks and Aizen survived that.
The only feats and proof I have for you is characters stating that transcended beings are more powerful than Shinigami/Hollow etc... and despite his bankai Yamamoto is just a normal shinigami. < This sentence alone should be enough to know Yamamoto is weaker than Aizen when Aizen transcended.
For example the only over person that could feel Aizen's spirit pressure when he wasn't holding back was Ichigo, you can claim your not a fanboy all you want but shouting...
Yamajiii can Bankai evryone becoz he jus tu strong (or) 'U hav no feets I dunt care wht manga says no1 can beat Yamajii.
At the end of the day the manga stated Transcended beings > Shinigami,Quincy,Hollows etc... It's not something I've made up go read the final battle in fake Karakura town and Ichigo's final battle with Aizen, that's where you'll get these 'feets' and 'prufs' you keep shouting about.
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I have already told u that if everything that u can tell me is that "TB's >Shinigani " ..plz stop Repng me...
If TB's really are > Shinigami ....how in the world shinigami managed to beat them..?
A Shinigami didn't defeat Aizen Ichigo did a fellow transcendent being...duh, Urahara's Kido had no effect on Aizen when he had Transcended it was only after Ichigo pushed Aizen so much that the Hogyoku rejected him did Urahara's Kido take effect.
The moment the Hogyoku rejected Aizen he stopped being a transcendent being that's why Urahara's kido finally started to work...you should know this if you read Bleach
These 4 pages explain this...
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The moment the Hogyoku rejected Aizen he became a normal Shinigami again hence the reason why he started to lose his hollow appearance.