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So a member @Senseisama (we have our moments) and I have a little disagreement about what madara taught tobi/obito which would were sasuke stands with his capability. But the sasuke argument can wait for another day.

So my argument with him is the uchiha jutsus, six path jutsus, and yin yang release that madara taught obito/tobi.
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We already know the forbidden uchiha jutsus are izanagi and izanami etc.
But for the six path jutsus @Senseisama said it's the same jutsu as pain's rinnegan jutsus, I however disagree with him for the following reasons.

1) Madara does not have the rinnegan to teach obito and neither does Obito/Tobi

2) Anything six path jutsu for a non rinnegan user is implied to be anything Gedo/Outerpath because of senju and uchiha powers.
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So those techniques would be Six path jyubi coffin seal, Gedo mazou synchronization (rinne tensei alternative), 9 phantom dragon, Gedo mazou chains, etc.
Those are the six path jutsus madara is able to teach nagato without the rinnegan, and it would make sense too.

And we all know the shadow and light jutsus are the black chakra weapons from the statue.
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Do you guess agree if not why?
 

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Madara taught him the Rinnegan jutsu and the Uchiha jutsu.
Madara taught him jutsus of six path, he didn't mention rinnegan jutsus. Obito also didn't showcase any rinnegan feats either.

And on a sidenote Riker with the most retarded post about naruto as usual. Some one get that moron to the onepiece section quick.
 

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Madara taught him jutsus of six path, he didn't mention rinnegan jutsus. Obito also didn't showcase any rinnegan feats either.

And on a sidenote Riker with the most retarded post about naruto as usual. Some one get that moron to the onepiece section quick.
Jutsu of the Six Paths are Rinnegan jutsu. This is the Six Paths, and also the Seventh Path.

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Jutsu of the Six Paths are Rinnegan jutsu. This is the Six Paths, and also the Seventh Path.

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That's called six path of pain jutsu
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agree with what brate ?
That what Madara taught Obito is not the jutsu Pain uses because they do not have the rinnegan.
 

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My head still hurts from the last night brate... haha, so im lazy to search right now...

SenseiSama said' that Obito teached Pain to use his techiniques ... i proved him wrong .
Okay so we basically agree on the same thing, nice. The jutsus of six path that madara taught obito was six path jyubi coffin seal and he didn't agree with me.
 

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Okay so we basically agree on the same thing, nice. The jutsus of six path that madara taught obito was six path jyubi coffin seal and he didn't agree with me.
Just use logic brate... how can someone teach someone to use Rinnegan techniques when they dont have Rinnegan? ...

Furthermore... knowledge about the jutsu's comes with the eyes.
 

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Obito can use them but he doesn't because :-

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Even when he got rid of the 6 jinchuuriki pains, he was still unable to do it and resorted into using kamui, mokuton, and chakra weapons. Like here.
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Just use logic brate... how can someone teach someone to use Rinnegan techniques when they dont have Rinnegan? ...

Furthermore... knowledge about the jutsu's comes with the eyes.
Exactly the point I was trying to make. And it's try, knowledge does come from the eyes too because it's instinctive upon activation.
 

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Even when he got rid of the 6 jinchuuriki pains, he was still unable to do it and resorted into using kamui, mokuton, and chakra weapons. Like here.
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If he has the Rinnegan it's a given he can use Rinnegan techniques. I agree with your argument in the first post.
 

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If he has the Rinnegan it's a given he can use Rinnegan techniques. I agree with your argument in the first post.
Wait where did you get this from though? Konan said that those with the rinnegan can use six path of pain jutsus but she also said that nagato was the one who awakened the rinnegan too. Besides that, I never heard that whoever has the rinnegan automatically gets rinnegan techniques pain uses. They usually get different ones like Limbo hengoku, Amenotejakra, or even Momoshiki's rinnegan jutsus.

They're not the exact same. It's like saying everyone who transfers natural energy to non sagemode users would turn to stone. We now know that it's not the case and that only applies to frog sagemode users. You get what I mean right?
 
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