Agree or nah? "Sasukes an idiot..."

[AlphaScythian]

Now, now there is an expansion to what i wrote. You should not jump to conclusion you know.

You have been making absurd posts since you joined the thread.
Do you think Sasuke plans to leave a power vacuum once he eliminates the kages and Naruto?, he would surely want to rules the world.

Now how does he become a tyrant, he does that by killing every last person who would want revenge for the Kages and Naruto.
He would also kill everyone who tries to oppose him, and in the end he would rule over stones.

I shall nominate you for top retarded award.

-Unbased speculation that world domination is what sasuke desires.
-No no one is gonna avenge naruto, they will be too happy not being plants, too powerless to face Sasuke anyway and Sasuke shall tell how naruto heroically died fighting kaguya and shit and that he needs memorial.
People gonna love Sasuke.

 

[King Of Pop]

Mind telling the ladies and gentlemen why Kaguya ate the fruit then? Oh that's right to stop a bloody war. If the bijuu should be killed because they can be used as war, then Sasuke should be killed because he is the last surviving Uchiha with the power to control the Mazou and revive The jubi and Kaguya. Oh and Sasuke didnt just want to murder innocent civilians, he was also going to ill his own team mate who had saved his life several times and aided him in quest for revenge, simply because he didnt need her anymore.

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doesnt excuse his action one bit but at least he apologized, in order words he acnowledged he was a bit off before.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

If wanting to avenge your parents' deaths leads to the deaths of countless innocent people, than yes, it is selfish, and not only selfish, but also insane.

Except that the Current Kage have literally nothing to do with those wars as none of them were acting kages during them (okay, except Onoki) and all of the images were making positive reforms in their villages (case in point, Mei).

And, there wasn't any war actually fought over them, we don't know why the First Shinobi World War began (likely resources) and the Second began as vengeance for the first (similar to WWII). We don't know the reasoning behind the Third either, the only war fought over bijuu was the Fourth Shinobi World War, and that was caused by Obito and Madara (the two trying to obtain peace).

The Raikage kept attempting gain power for war,the Tsuchikage said that to him in chapter 458.The Cloud tried to kidnap Hinata in order to gain the secrets of the Byakugan - power to destroy Konoha.They tried Kidnapping her when the PEACE TREATY was signed,chapter 102,page 16 and 17 and they had even though they were the ones who were wrong they said to Konoha to kill Hizashi Hyuga cause he killed their guy,even though that guy snuck into Their country,Hizashi's house in the middle of the night and tried kidnapping his 3 year old daughter.They threatened War if he wasn't killed.All this cause they were butthurt over their child abduction attempt failed which they were hoping to use to destroy Konoha - Mass Murder.457 page 12 - Yamato confronts the Raikage about the situation and says HE went after the Byakugan.

Read what Yamato says its important.The Raikage was behind that incident - that happened when Hinata was 3 and she's now about 17 like Naruto and Sasuke,so we know he was the Kage for atleast 14 years.In that whole time he was doing some bad stuff.Him and the Tsuchikage have been for a long time.

Mei,Tsunade,and Gaara should be let off,but i can see why Sasuke deosn't like them considering they are in charge of the fail Shinobi World/System.

I forgot to comment about Sasuke's leadership in my prevoius post.He's been shown to be a capable leader.Taka respects and follows him.Through his leadership they were able to not only sneak into the Swordsmens country but also the Kage Summit,then Zetsu blew their cover by telling the Kages Sasuke was there.

Mind telling the ladies and gentlemen why Kaguya ate the fruit then? Oh that's right to stop a bloody war. If the bijuu should be killed because they can be used as war, then Sasuke should be killed because he is the last surviving Uchiha with the power to control the Mazou and revive The jubi and Kaguya. Oh and Sasuke didnt just want to murder innocent civilians, he was also going to ill his own team mate who had saved his life several times and aided him in quest for revenge, simply because he didnt need her anymore.

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Sasuke deosn't want to use the Bijuu like everyelse did,he didn't fight multiple wars for them.Kaguya wanted to use them to end war.The Villages had Wars so they could them.See the difference?

 

[Darth Uchiha]

The Raikage kept attempting gain power for war,the Tsuchikage said that to him in chapter 458.The Cloud tried to kidnap Hinata in order to gain the secrets of the Byakugan - power to destroy Konoha.They tried Kidnapping her when the PEACE TREATY was signed,chapter 102,page 16 and 17 and they had even though they were the ones who were wrong they said to Konoha to kill Hizashi Hyuga cause he killed their guy,even though that guy snuck into Their country,Hizashi's house in the middle of the night and tried kidnapping his 3 year old daughter.They threatened War if he wasn't killed.All this cause they were butthurt over their child abduction attempt failed which they were hoping to use to destroy Konoha - Mass Murder.457 page 12 - Yamato confronts the Raikage about the situation and says HE went after the Byakugan.

Read what Yamato says its important.The Raikage was behind that incident - that happened when Hinata was 3 and she's now about 17 like Naruto and Sasuke,so we know he was the Kage for atleast 14 years.In that whole time he was doing some bad stuff.Him and the Tsuchikage have been for a long time.

Mei,Tsunade,and Gaara should be let off,but i can see why Sasuke deosn't like them considering they are in charge of the fail Shinobi World/System.

I forgot to comment about Sasuke's leadership in my prevoius post.He's been shown to be a capable leader.Taka respects and follows him.Through his leadership they were able to not only sneak into the Swordsmens country but also the Kage Summit,then Zetsu blew their cover by telling the Kages Sasuke was there.

So, Sasuke can change, but not the Raikage? That's pretty hypocritical, IMO, if people deserve death for their past mistakes, Sasuke's deserves death for trying to kill Naruto. Also, you just pointed out that three insane people follow Sasuke...okay...does he have any sane followers?

 

[WalksInShadows]

from sasukes pov, danzo was the true culprit as he was the one who gave the order for his clans massacred. he was the one who put itachi in that position so sasuke is definitely not going to let it slide. not only did they use his own brother but they lied and covered everything up. in the eyes of everyone in the village itachi was a treatrous villain and he was hated and that angered him. sasuke was upset that they are all living and breathing itachis sacrifice, his whole revenge purpose was a lie so he wants them to pay starting with the elders. the reason he wanted to eliminate everyone is basically what we call eye for an eye, as no uchiha innocents were kept alive, danzo ordered all of them slaughtered so he was going to pay them back in similar manner. at the end his clan were sacrificed for the lives of the villagers and he wasnt happy about that. sasuke then wasnt taking itachis side of view into the equation hence he realized that later on and decided to protect the village. whos mistakes did he fail to learn from as i dont know what you are talking about there.

irrelevant as i never mentioned anything about naruto nor do i care about him.

Sasuke's views have always been 31 flavors of insanity ever since Obito told him his accounts of the story surrounding the massacre. I'm well aware you didn't mention Naruto, but it was necessary to point out Sasuke's failure to learn anything of value that doesn't involve using jutsu. It was for this reason that Itachi managed to have productive conversations with Naruto that he couldn't ever have with Sasuke. I don't care if you don't care about Naruto, but what Sasuke is planning will very much effect Naruto all the same. If you can ever manage to get your head out of the sand, you would realize that.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

So, Sasuke can change, but not the Raikage? That's pretty hypocritical, IMO, if people deserve death for their past mistakes, Sasuke's deserves death for trying to kill Naruto. Also, you just pointed out that three insane people follow Sasuke...okay...does he have any sane followers?

How deos Sasuke know he's truly changed? Cause he joined the other villages which was to fight against people who were a threat to himself aswell as the whole world? If the Cloud wasn't going to be affected by IT then i doubt he would have ever cooperated with them,infact he probably would have acted like he did while really planning on their demise like he did in the Hyuga incident.

Who knows that the Kages will really stay united after this war which they only fought together in cause they were all danger.The Tsuchikage and Raikage have always been shady.Think about it,why would the world not follow Sasuke,the person who saved them from IT and the Akatsuki.How would they even know he killed the Kages unless Naruto,Kakashi,and Sakura are alive and tell and or Sasuke tells them? It's like what Alpha said which didn't even think of.

Sasuke's views have always been 31 flavors of insanity ever since Obito told him his accounts of the story surrounding the massacre. I'm well aware you didn't mention Naruto, but it was necessary to point out Sasuke's failure to learn anything of value that doesn't involve using jutsu. It was for this reason that Itachi managed to have productive conversations with Naruto that he couldn't ever have with Sasuke. I don't care if you don't care about Naruto, but what Sasuke is planning will very much effect Naruto all the same. If you can ever manage to get your head out of the sand, you would realize that.

What Tobi told Sasuke about the Uchiha and Itachi was true,which Sasuke confirmed when talking to Danzo at the end of chapter 476.The only thing Tobi lied about was the Kyuubi attack,he said it was just a natural disater.Sasuke deciding to kill the Elders wasn't insane,but wanting to destroy the whole Village was wrong,but understandable to why he wanted to do that.Deciding to protect Konoha after talking to Hashirama wasn't insane,nor is deciding to change the messed up Shinobi world and System,then create a new better one.

Nor is killing the Leaders to the messed up Shinobi world and system.The Shinobi Nations got into 3 Big wars and killed many people,Shinobi and Civilans,do you call them insane? The Akatsuki wanted to force change in the world,do you call them insane? Nagato actually destroyed Konoha,do you call him insane? Have you and others who complain about Sasuke even thought of that?

I'll go into more detail in my own thread later.

 

[King Of Pop]

Sasuke's views have always been 31 flavors of insanity ever since Obito told him his accounts of the story surrounding the massacre. I'm well aware you didn't mention Naruto, but it was necessary to point out Sasuke's failure to learn anything of value that doesn't involve using jutsu. It was for this reason that Itachi managed to have productive conversations with Naruto that he couldn't ever have with Sasuke. I don't care if you don't care about Naruto, but what Sasuke is planning will very much effect Naruto all the same. If you can ever manage to get your head out of the sand, you would realize that.

his views arent insane, hes just doing that he feels needs to be done. and your itachi point fails as he intentionally kept sasuke in the dark and didnt want him knowing the truth, he didnt have a productive conversation because he didnt want to. they are about to duke it out so lets just sit back and see how it all unfolds.

How deos Sasuke know he's truly changed? Cause he joined the other villages which was to fight against people who were a threat to himself aswell as the whole world? If the Cloud wasn't going to be affected by IT then i doubt he would have ever cooperated with them,infact he probably would have acted like he did while really planning on their demise like he did in the Hyuga incident.

Who knows that the Kages will really stay united after this war which they only fought together in cause they were all danger.The Tsuchikage and Raikage have always been shady.Think about it,why would the world not follow Sasuke,the person who saved them from IT and the Akatsuki.How would they even know he killed the Kages unless Naruto,Kakashi,and Sakura are alive and tell and or Sasuke tells them? It's like what Alpha said which didn't even think of.



What Tobi told Sasuke about the Uchiha and Itachi was true,which Sasuke confirmed when talking to Danzo at the end of chapter 476.The only thing Tobi lied about was the Kyuubi attack,he said it was just a natural disater.Sasuke deciding to kill the Elders wasn't insane,but wanting to destroy the whole Village was wrong,but understandable to why he wanted to do that.Deciding to protect Konoha after talking to Hashirama wasn't insane,nor is deciding to change the messed up Shinobi world and System,then create a new better one.

Nor is killing the Leaders to the messed up Shinobi world and system.The Shinobi Nations got into 3 Big wars and killed many people,Shinobi and Civilans,do you call them insane? The Akatsuki wanted to force change in the world,do you call them insane? Nagato actually destroyed Konoha,do you call him insane? Have you and others who complain about Sasuke even thought of that?

I'll go into more detail in my own thread later.

notify me when you make the thread bro.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

his views arent insane, hes just doing that he feels needs to be done. and your itachi point fails as he intentionally kept sasuke in the dark and didnt want him knowing the truth, he didnt have a productive conversation because he didnt want to. they are about to duke it out so lets just sit back and see how it all unfolds.

So, because Madara thought he was doing what needed to be done, his plan wasn't insane? Pain's plan was good to, right? Smh, At least Madara had the excuse that he got Black Zetsu's abridged history, Sasuke decides to pull an Indra after personally speaking with the sage.

 

[King Of Pop]

So, because Madara thought he was doing what needed to be done, his plan wasn't insane? Pain's plan was good to, right? Smh, At least Madara had the excuse that he got Black Zetsu's abridged history, Sasuke decides to pull an Indra after personally speaking with the sage.

sasuke wants to remove and rebuild, he is dealing with reality unlike madara and obito. ive stated already i dont fully agree with his methods, anyways am tired of this, ive stated my points so thats all for me.

 

[WalksInShadows]

his views arent insane, hes just doing that he feels needs to be done. and your itachi point fails as he intentionally kept sasuke in the dark and didnt want him knowing the truth, he didnt have a productive conversation because he didnt want to. they are about to duke it out so lets just sit back and see how it all unfolds.

Itachi was shown talking to Sasuke just before his soul was gone, and Sasuke literally replied by saying he wasn't going to listen to him. Fast forward to Hagoromo telling him to learn something from Hashirama and Madara's conversation. He refused to. He's unreasonable. Simple as that.

 

[King Of Pop]

Itachi was shown talking to Sasuke just before his soul was gone, and Sasuke literally replied by saying he wasn't going to listen to him. Fast forward to Hagoromo telling him to learn something from Hashirama and Madara's conversation. He refused to. He's unreasonable. Simple as that.

once again false. sasuke stated that he would still destroy the village BEFORE itachi showed him the real facts about everything through genjutsu, then ended it by saying he will love sasuke no matter what he plans on doing. thats when sasuke became confused and needed answers hence he revived oro leading to the hokage talk and him now wanting to protect the village, so he did listen in the end. sasuke already made up his plan wayy before that hashirama and madara scene, and he listened and he had some sympathy for madara. but nontheless he wont abandon his goal which he feels needs to be done.
bold. yh your opinion.

 

[WalksInShadows]

once again false. sasuke stated that he would still destroy the village BEFORE itachi showed him the real facts about everything through genjutsu, then ended it by saying he will love sasuke no matter what he plans on doing. thats when sasuke became confused and needed answers hence he revived oro leading to the hokage talk and him now wanting to protect the village, so he did listen in the end. sasuke already made up his plan wayy before that hashirama and madara scene, and he listened and he had some sympathy for madara. but nontheless he wont abandon his goal which he feels needs to be done.
bold. yh your opinion.

and not a singe letter in this post disproves what i said to be true.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

The only idiot are the idiots who think he is a idiot.