Again, Itachi Was A Hero. Who Agrees?

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Oh man this again..But I agree.

What he did was necessary, there´s no doubt. The methods however, confuse some people.
 

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Hes only called hero ONCE in the manga.. and that is only because he undid the Edo.. his other actions are not that of a Hero's.

Umm idiot he saved the world once before by stopping the uchiha's plot to overthrow the leaf which wouldve caused a fourth great ninja war
 

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He didn't hear about him killing innocent people. Also, Guy praised Kisame. ^_^

Yeah he did he heard the conversation between hiruzen and sasuke... he still praised him either way.. stop hating and know what youre actually talking about before saying anything.

edit: actually sasuke told him what itachi did and still said he was a better shinobi.. gtfo :)
 
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Umm idiot he saved the world once before by stopping the uchiha's plot to overthrow the leaf which wouldve caused a fourth great ninja war
Stupidity is high with you aye my good sir.

The leaf's leaders turned their backs on the Uchiha.. while the Uchiha still chose to protect the leaf. They were gonna overthrow the government not the bloody village. Stop acting like a naive child.

Yeah he did he heard the conversation between hiruzen and sasuke... he still praised him either way.. stop hating and know what youre actually talking about.

.... he said he was a fine shinobi... aka fine soldier.. lol Itachi himself didn't believe himself to be a hero.. he stated that he would die a terrible death for killing his own comrades. Just like Kisame did.... Who said they weren't both good shinobis?


But know what a Hero is before making dumb assumptions.
 

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So king you don't think Itachi deserved Hashirama's praise? Just curious

Nah bro, he was a good shinobi man. And I needa give more rep out so i can rep you X_X. Man this rep system is so annoying.

But Hashirama did say it in a normal way. Just like Guy called Kisame a good shinobi or w.e Same with Kakashi to Zabuza.
 

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Stupidity is high with you aye my good sir.

The leaf's leaders turned their backs on the Uchiha.. while the Uchiha still chose to protect the leaf. They were gonna overthrow the government not the bloody village. Stop acting like a naive child.
Yes I know that but either way it was going to start a fourth great ninja war and Itachi stopped it by wiping out the Uchiha clan. If that doesnt make you a hero then I dont know what doesn't



.... he said he was a fine shinobi... aka fine soldier.. lol Itachi himself didn't believe himself to be a hero.. he stated that he would die a terrible death for killing his own comrades. Just like Kisame did.... Who said they weren't both good shinobis?


But know what a Hero is before making dumb assumptions.
LOL I'm not going to bother with you..
 

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Nah bro, he was a good shinobi man. And I needa give more rep out so i can rep you X_X. Man this rep system is so annoying.

But Hashirama did say it in a normal way. Just like Guy called Kisame a good shinobi or w.e Same with Kakashi to Zabuza.

Hmm I see your point yes :)
 

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What part of killing innocent people because your "Boss" feels its the right thing to do is heroic. Even Itachi knew it wasn't heroic.

?Who said the slaughter was heroic? and why are you blaming him? You heard hiruzen.. him and danzo ORDERED itachi to do it... and it was the only way he could save his brother...then they made him take full blame, and join akatsuki

The slaughter was a necessary evil, but you act like it was itachi's idea
 

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?Who said the slaughter was heroic? and why are you blaming him? You heard hiruzen.. him and danzo ORDERED itachi to do it... and it was the only way he could save his brother...then they made him take full blame, and join akatsuki

The slaughter was a necessary evil, but you act like it was itachi's idea
This^ Exactly
 

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Yes I know that but either way it was going to start a fourth great ninja war and Itachi stopped it by wiping out the Uchiha clan. If that doesnt make you a hero then I dont know what doesn't

LOL I'm not going to bother with you..
Cause Danzo and Hiruzen brought it upon themselves. The Uchihas didn't just one day wake up and said " Oh you guys suck we want war"... Itachi followed Orders.. lmao.


?Who said the slaughter was heroic? and why are you blaming him? You heard hiruzen.. him and danzo ORDERED itachi to do it... and it was the only way he could save his brother...then they made him take full blame, and join akatsuki

The slaughter was a necessary evil, but you act like it was itachi's idea
It was only Danzo who ordered mate. X_X.

I laugh at your statement of "Necessary evil". Easily avoided if Tobirama's political actions were to be undone. But no that would've caused Danzo's race for Hokage problem.

Itachi /Obito/Danzo/Hiruzen.. all are at blame.

Itachi/Obito: The doers
Danzo: The Hitler
Hiruzen: The by stander who does nothing.
 

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Cause Danzo and Hiruzen brought it upon themselves. The Uchihas didn't just one day wake up and said " Oh you guys suck we want war"... Itachi followed Orders.. lmao.


It was only Danzo who ordered mate. X_X.

I laugh at your statement of "Necessary evil". Easily avoided if Tobirama's political actions were to be undone. But no that would've caused Danzo's race for Hokage problem.

Itachi /Obito/Danzo/Hiruzen.. all are at blame.

Itachi/Obito: The doers
Danzo: The Hitler
Hiruzen: The by stander who does nothing.
Hah I'm here laughing at your stupidity... If anyone was to blame it was Obito. He rekindled The Curse of Hatred in The Uchiha Clan by attacking Konoha with the kyuubi. Because of his actions the uchiha were unjustly blamed and were put under suspicion. Danzo was also to blame because he didnt try to work out a peaceful solution. Itachi was 13 years or younger and he was pressured with the Task of wiping out his clan. Itachi experienced the horrors of war at a young age and didnt want another war to start because of the uchiha.. he either had to wipe them out but saving his brother or have all of them exterminated along with his brother.. He had really difficult choices to make at such a young age.. he really had no way out. I'd suggest you reread the manga so you can understand it more. You make him look evil and completely change what Itachi was. Oh and btw it was a bad example of you to compare itachi, zabuza, and kisame as they were in different situations.. yes they were all called good shinobis but for different reasons all together.
 

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Itachi saved his brother but also turned him into a Criminal, Sparing Jiraiya gives him no credibility since he had no intention of killing him anyway, The rest are Meh, I still think he gets hyped up way to match he was good and did protect the village but thousands of others have done the same thing, hell even Nagato was all for protecting a village
 

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He's a hero who saved the entire shinobi world, mangafax:
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It was only Danzo who ordered mate. X_X.
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Danzo has no power of hiruzen, he's just an advisor
 

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Itachi saved his brother but also turned him into a Criminal, Sparing Jiraiya gives him no credibility since he had no intention of killing him anyway, The rest are Meh, I still think he gets hyped up way to match he was good and did protect the village but thousands of others have done the same thing, hell even Nagato was all for protecting a village

It's quite amusing to think that Nagato killing Kakashi enabled the latter to have a reunion with his late father xd
 

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Itachi actually SAVED his brother, as opposed to letting him die.
no he just created for him a fate worse than a quick death which was a slow agonising death filled with hatred loneliness and misery

Itachi tormented his brother so Sasuke would kill him and become a hero of the Leaf, redeeming the Uchihas
why did they need redeeming if they were criminals and he was right to kill them? obviously he was wrong to kill them and feels guilty. also how will filling sasukes heart with hate and rage make him a noble kind hero? wouldnt that jsut do the opposite? wait..it DID

Itachi did those things with Kakashi and the others only to keep his cover.
what cover? he blew his cover when he explicitly told obito whos side hes on and told obito not to attack konoha

Itachi could have killed Jiraiya, but chose not to.
knowing pain would send someone else to get naruto (and pain DID send deidara since deidara almost captured naruto in rescue gaara arc) if he himself failed. itachi caused more bloodshed than he saved

Itachi and many others admitted that he was dedicated to the village and did everything he did to make the village succeed.
except he didnt. he threatened high treason on them, helped the village get weaker by putting kkaashi in a coma and turning sasuke traitor, and helped the other villages get weaker by sealing their jins
He's obviously a hero he stopped a war by killing the Uchiha's.
heroes dont massacre children because an old man said so. he could have stopped a war by killing half and threatening the other half. but i guess that was too nice.

Nt to mention how many times he saved the village.
once and only because he committed genocide. a crime he didnt want pinned on anyone but himself and wanted to be looked upon as a villain. if the action was so heroic he should ahve been a hero but he wasnt and knew it. itachi himself tells people not to think of him as a hero

Minato, Hiruzen, Hashirama, Tobirama
did not massacre children nor mentally torture their family members nor mentally torture comrades. also itachi just left anko dying 2 feet away and didnt even care

Itachi tormented his brother so he would get stronger then kill him...Itachi understood the history of the uchiha and as tobi/tobirama explained, hate and strong emotions empower uchihas
so basically he knew sasuke would become an unstoppable rampaging villain and still tortured him to make sure he wold create konohas greatest threat

that's completely wrong " Why are you weak?... you lack hate"
i said it was brutal and evil, not that he didnt have a reason. he had a reason, its just a psychopathic one

Sometimes hard decisions have to be made in order to protect something greater.
and usually its the villains who do that. itachis a villain like danzo. he opposes the idealistic views of naruto and hashirama and frequently attacks konoha citizens

An amazing character in terms of things he does for the sake of the village and his younger brother
nothing? except making them get destroyed and obliterated

Biggest Hero in the NV, other than SO6P. Without him undoing Edo Tensei no backup would have arrived for Naruto and Kages would be dead right now.
without him kabuto would still be around and thats about it. the alliance had cleaned up the edo tenseis except chiyo and kimimaro in chapter 573 then headed to narutos location. only people who wouldnt be there are fodder samurai who were still fighting.

Itachi was a hero, even Hashirama praised him.
hashirama knew almost nothing about the guy except vague descriptions that only mentioned he killed his comrades on orders. he has no idea what akatsuki even is or what they were doing with itachis help
Umm idiot he saved the world once before by stopping the uchiha's plot to overthrow the leaf which wouldve caused a fourth great ninja war
no it wouldnt. MAYBE a bloody failed coup but thats not a civil war. uchihas were dead whether they were killed by itachi or not. and no other nation is warmongering enough to invade straight away just because they hear there was a rebellion in konoha that was foiled. thatd be like yuzahn vong invading the republic after the jedis are wiped out. uchihas didnt like the government not the whole village.
also what was "saving the world" about turnikng sasuke into a villain and helping akatsuki get the jins?

Yes I know that but either way it was going to start a fourth great ninja war and Itachi stopped it by wiping out the Uchiha clan. If that doesnt make you a hero then I dont know what doesn't
ensuring that act is wasted by helping to start another one and kidnap innocent people/inform a psychopath you approve of his crush the leaf plans/do nothing about akatsuki till its too late. and contrary to itachis belief, the other nations wouldnt invade konoha just because uchihas rebelled.

He's a hero who saved the entire shinobi world
i didnt know kabuto chiyo and kimimaro were threats to the entire shinobi world....i mean sm kabuto is strong but not edo madara strong.

... If anyone was to blame it was Obito. He rekindled The Curse of Hatred in The Uchiha Clan by attacking Konoha with the kyuubi. Because of his actions the uchiha were unjustly blamed and were put under suspicion
if anyone is to blame its itachi. he turned sasuke inot a genocidal maniac, he helped akatsuki instead of stopping them and failed to beat oro when he had the chance

Itachi was 13 years or younger and he was pressured with the Task of wiping out his clan
too bad. he had the mind of a kage at 7. his age didnt matter

he either had to wipe them out but saving his brother or have all of them exterminated along with his brother.. He had really difficult choices to make at such a young age
that wasnt his only options. if he thinks like a kage he would have known that. why couldnt he bargain for the other kids, not just sasuke? or convince hiruzen he can stop it without killing everyone?

Who said the slaughter was heroic
"itachi was a hero"
 

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no he just created for him a fate worse than a quick death which was a slow agonising death filled with hatred loneliness and misery

why did they need redeeming if they were criminals and he was right to kill them? obviously he was wrong to kill them and feels guilty. also how will filling sasukes heart with hate and rage make him a noble kind hero? wouldnt that jsut do the opposite? wait..it DID

what cover? he blew his cover when he explicitly told obito whos side hes on and told obito not to attack konoha

knowing pain would send someone else to get naruto (and pain DID send deidara since deidara almost captured naruto in rescue gaara arc) if he himself failed. itachi caused more bloodshed than he saved

except he didnt. he threatened high treason on them, helped the village get weaker by putting kkaashi in a coma and turning sasuke traitor, and helped the other villages get weaker by sealing their jins
heroes dont massacre children because an old man said so. he could have stopped a war by killing half and threatening the other half. but i guess that was too nice.

once and only because he committed genocide. a crime he didnt want pinned on anyone but himself and wanted to be looked upon as a villain. if the action was so heroic he should ahve been a hero but he wasnt and knew it. itachi himself tells people not to think of him as a hero

did not massacre children nor mentally torture their family members nor mentally torture comrades. also itachi just left anko dying 2 feet away and didnt even care

so basically he knew sasuke would become an unstoppable rampaging villain and still tortured him to make sure he wold create konohas greatest threat

i said it was brutal and evil, not that he didnt have a reason. he had a reason, its just a psychopathic one

and usually its the villains who do that. itachis a villain like danzo. he opposes the idealistic views of naruto and hashirama and frequently attacks konoha citizens

nothing? except making them get destroyed and obliterated

without him kabuto would still be around and thats about it. the alliance had cleaned up the edo tenseis except chiyo and kimimaro in chapter 573 then headed to narutos location. only people who wouldnt be there are fodder samurai who were still fighting.

hashirama knew almost nothing about the guy except vague descriptions that only mentioned he killed his comrades on orders. he has no idea what akatsuki even is or what they were doing with itachis help
no it wouldnt. MAYBE a bloody failed coup but thats not a civil war. uchihas were dead whether they were killed by itachi or not. and no other nation is warmongering enough to invade straight away just because they hear there was a rebellion in konoha that was foiled. thatd be like yuzahn vong invading the republic after the jedis are wiped out. uchihas didnt like the government not the whole village.
also what was "saving the world" about turnikng sasuke into a villain and helping akatsuki get the jins?

ensuring that act is wasted by helping to start another one and kidnap innocent people/inform a psychopath you approve of his crush the leaf plans/do nothing about akatsuki till its too late. and contrary to itachis belief, the other nations wouldnt invade konoha just because uchihas rebelled.

i didnt know kabuto chiyo and kimimaro were threats to the entire shinobi world....i mean sm kabuto is strong but not edo madara strong.

if anyone is to blame its itachi. he turned sasuke inot a genocidal maniac, he helped akatsuki instead of stopping them and failed to beat oro when he had the chance

too bad. he had the mind of a kage at 7. his age didnt matter

that wasnt his only options. if he thinks like a kage he would have known that. why couldnt he bargain for the other kids, not just sasuke? or convince hiruzen he can stop it without killing everyone?

"itachi was a hero"

You're either the biggest idiot or an Itachi hater. I say both :) One Sasuke didn't turn evil until Obito told him the truth and manipulated him. Get your facts straight idiot. Two If Obito hadn't attacked the Leaf Village he wouldn't have set in motion the uchiha clan plotting to overthrow the leaf. Three The Uchiha weren't criminals as they were the police force of Konoha. They were segregated and treated unjustly and blamed for what Obito did. You'd expect them to take this and not do anything? You must be an idiot. Lol wow I'm facepalming right now at all your bs counters. It was stated in the manga that if the uchiha carried out their coup the leaf wouldve been weakened therefore giving the chance to enemies to attack starting a war. Stop pulling things out of your ass and get real fool. Also it doesn't matter whether its the government or village there is still going to be fighting and bloodshed. Whether Itachi was there or not they were still going to wipe out the Uchiha. Sure Itachi though like a hokage but he had no say in what happened to the Clan. That was all Danzo and Hiruzen.. it was their job to give out orders.. not itachi besides they tried to work out peaceful solutions but it didn't work. Btw it was never stated that there were other children in the clan and to say so is just an assumption. Itachi never attacked Konoha and its Citizens so Idk where you got that from. o_O Btw if it wasn't for Itachi stopping Edo tensei naruto bee kakashi and Guy may have lost. The Kages wouldve died since Madara had PS activated. He saved the world twice and has done more than anyone. He is always getting praised by a lot of people including Hashi. Don't say that Hashi didn't know much when they explained Itachi acted like a villain and was in the akatsuki as a spy. He had to play the villain and go along with them or else he'd be killed. He can't take all of the akatsuki. Btw even if itachi killed orochimaru (which I may add he did end up sealing Oro) he would've probably came back either way. Itachi wasn't perfect and no one is perfect.. he made mistakes like everyone else did. Minato made Naruto a jinchuriki even though he was a baby and didn't consider the burden he would have to carry of being lonely and hated.. he died when could've lived his son. Itachis actions aren't justified but it was for the good of the world and its not like he chose to do it and kill for the heck of it.. he didn't take pleasure in doing it. You could tell he was in pain while he was crying before killing his parents. I suggest you should reread the manga as you don't know what the hell youre talking about. You make Itachi evil when he wasn't but whatever... Kishi>you.
 
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