Advantages....Alive Minato could never beat Itachi.

[Aznkidd]

Lmao Sasukes ameno and ftg aren't the same. Ftg requires prep and planting of seals. What Sasuke does is use anything in the vincinity and teleport with. Ameno is surperior to ftg offensively.

Bee already reacted to Minatos "instant" by doing just that. He realize what kunai Minato would teleport to and countered effectively.

Lmao gtfo Sage Minato is not happening. I'm not claiming anything without proof. there is more than enough proof in Minatos words he'll lose if he uses it in a 1v1 situation.

you didn't debunk anything horrible post man.

Troll thread deserved it.

The most common knowlegde is that Minato is superior than Itachi. The man who possesed instant travel jutsu and able to read out the opponent in matter of second with nothin to back him up while Konoha genius, talented ninja, many best sensor could not even do it and took a long time to figure out.
Itachi with his blessing eyes still not able to put a dense on Obito.
FTG requires skill, prep time or not is irrevelant as Even Madara and his brother suffered from the inferior version. Two brother that is KAGEs level, one is jin, other can fight tailed beast and hailed at ultra speed, even counter your self claimed "instant" amaterasu - still suffered infront the Minato.

So yea, debunk part 3

 

[Trollkage]

Minato shitz on itachi minato iz ad hokage itachi iz ad mosist hight jonnin itachi so overated

 

[Dantee]

Troll thread deserved it.

The most common knowlegde is that Minato is superior than Itachi. The man who possesed instant travel jutsu and able to read out the opponent in matter of second with nothin to back him up while Konoha genius, talented ninja, many best sensor could not even do it and took a long time to figure out.
Itachi with his blessing eyes still not able to put a dense on Obito.
FTG requires skill, prep time or not is irrevelant as Even Madara and his brother suffered from the inferior version. Two brother that is KAGEs level, one is jin, other can fight tailed beast and hailed at ultra speed, even counter your self claimed "instant" amaterasu - still suffered infront the Minato.

So yea, debunk part 3

Minato fans argument since day 1 all hype bs.

 

[YellowFang]

:wesobi:
Not again...

There's been threads establishing why Minato triumphs over Itachi, and that was well before added feats for 'Alive' Minato...

Itachi is very fast on regular standards, well Minato is faster; He's at the least on par with KCM Naruto...
Let's put aside intellect comparison, although thorough analysis gives Minato a slight edge...
Itachi has Sharingan, gives him good reflexes and chakra concentration like a heat signature; Minato is a quite skilled sensor and adept at silent combat...
Itachi has an edge over 'Shuriken Jutsu' but that won't keep Minato from spreading his FTG marks all across the battlefield...
Now,
The actual argument, 'Genjutsu'; This is the field where Itachi triumphs, and even in this battle it plays the biggest part. All Itachi would want is to get Minato under a genjutsu, preferably 'Tsukiyomi'...
But,
Uchiha's speciality in genjutsu is known world-wide, and it'd be dumb of Minato to never thought of a scenario where he'd have to fight an Uchiha. I'm not saying he'd perfectly be able to counter though...
Shadow clones: one of the addition in Minato's arsenal, Itachi has it too but certainly it's more suited to Minato's style and also that it can be used in conjunction with FTG...

So, all these points support Minato's case.
All he need is a prepped FTG field which he can easily do over the course of battle, once setup is complete, that's when Minato finish his battles very quickly.

Sage Mode: not included (too risky in this battle)

Thanks for the patience!

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

@Azn kidd wont bother quoting that piece of shit reply. Still waiting for proof sage mode is immune to CT btw. Anyways its not irrelevant Minato has no feats of breaking or avoiding Itachis genjutsu. I was using Jiraya as a means to shed some light on his possible genjutsu skills. Since he has no feats of it whatsoever.


Itachi is not slow he kept up with KCM Naruto and basically blitzed Base Bee.

Anyone who brings up SM Minato can be dismissed. Thats not even possible against someone like Itachi. Minato himself states it takes to long to kneed the chakra and only lasts a moment. That's useless and ITachi would cut his head off as soon as he starts concentrating.

FTG seals can be read with sharingan. Minato throwing a kunai at Itachi wont do the same thing as it did for Obito. Itachi is much smarter than 13 yr old Obito and fights different as well.

fan fic

 

[baul 24]

Come on guys even killer bee is able to predict and intercept minato's FTG attack during third ninja war and you guys are saying that itachi a genius can't. pls give me a break

 

[NarutoX28]

Come on guys even killer bee is able to predict and intercept minato's FTG attack during third ninja war and you guys are saying that itachi a genius can't. pls give me a break

Someone who actually has common sense.

 

[LoZelda101]

Naw, Minato would own. Itachi isn't nearly as fast as Minato, why? Sasuke was faster than itachi when they fought, Raikage dodged Sasukes amaterasu, but was not able to dodge Minatos kunai after he ftgd to it, Bee had to intercept. This shows how much faster minato was at the time, thus speed plays a huge factor, considering you said it yourself, minato ends battles quickly.

Itachis sharingan takes precious time to activate, time minato will definitely take advantage of.

Minato still wins after all these years.

Sasuke may have been physically faster (not really), but itachi's eyes were blitzing sasuke every time. gen speed is faster than FTG for the simple fact that minato won't see it coming, not even his sensory skills will help him expect it.

Here is why Minato wrecks. He is faster,smarter, way more stamina and FTG + food cart destroyer. Minato >>> Jiraiya and Jiraiya = Itachi mangafact.

Thus Minato has all the advantages whilst itachi has none and aids.

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What's the point of FTG if susanoo protects him 360degree w/ yata? lol. it's just a matter of time before minato gets soloed by gen. lol also that pic is funny, itachi has been in that knife2neck situation before by kakashi and still solo'ed him. haha

This is all manga facts off the top of my head. I joined in 2012...I'm just saying I know stuff so here goes:


- Itachi is a genius and Minato is a genius. thus Intellect wont matter


- Itachi is fast and Minato is fast. thus speed wont matter.


- Itachi has bad stamina, however Minato ends fights quickly so stamina won't be an issue.



-Itachi has sharingan and Minato does not. Itachi has an advantage.

-Manga states 2v1 to fight sharingan. Manga states only Guy Sensei has trained in the art of fighting an opponent by looking at their feet.

-Minato has ftg via kunai/seals, but Itachi can see chakra and has superior shuriken jutsu/handseal speed. Another advantage to Itachi.


Itachi has the best genjustu battle prowess in the series while Minato has no feats of combating genjutsu whatsoever.

Spoiler

The common excuse:

but but but Minato is hokage.

Jiraya was also going to become hokage and admits he's shit at genjutsu.......


Jiraya the guy who trained Minato.....


Jiraya the guy who is canonically inferior to Oro, who was also a candidate for hokage....


The guy Itachi stomped at 13 with genjutsu...

Oro the guy who has a 5 in genjutsu.....



Thus, Itachi has all the advantages while Minato has none and blonde hair.



Itachi wins 9/10.


Thanks for reading.

careful now. ******ry butthurt mods might delete this too.

 

[Remedy]

Minato has proficiency with ninja tools. As I think about it, it doesn't matter if Itachi knows all or a lot about Minato, Minato was still able to fool Obito, his own student, during their battle during the Nine-Tails Attack. Minato was fast enough to throw his kunai and then teleport with a Rasengan and hit Obito before he could perform Kamui, something that has been touted as instant. Perhaps you could try to substitute Kamui with a ribcage Susanoo and see how that works. Gaara pulled Madara out of his susanoo, so I don't see why Minato can't teleport Itachi out of his.

Minato's biggest problem is Itachi's genjutsu. Even Ay said sharingan is no match for him. The speed at which Raikage moves plus his experience allows him to avoid genjutsu and amateratsu. Minato is even faster, so the same applies to him. Furthermore, alot of people act like Minato would just simply fall for Tsukiyomi or Susanoo. The Uchiha was a clan widely known for genjutsu and dojutsu, even shinobi from other villages knew to take precautions. Minato and Itachi would both be anticipating each others moves. Tobirama was able to take down Izuna with inferior FTG, he was the clans strongest memeber alongside Madara. So in retrospect Itachi will be spamming susanoo for defense, and he doesn't have the stamina for that, and will quickly tire himself out. When you involve fuinjutsu, its even more easy to get around and avoid totsuka and yata. Minato can seal attacks and teleport them anywhere he has marks, he instantly teleported a tentails tbb.

I could literally go on and on. Itachi is not omniscient, and undefeatable.

 

[shadowcb]

Minato wins.

There is a lot of BS in the OP. You should stick to facts. The manga proved the "2v1" statement was garbage. Just like the manga proved Amaterasu can be avoided. Jiraya was not inferior to Oro. Oro made that BS claim.

Minato has Itachi beat in speed. He can use FTG (space/time jutsu) to move at the speed of light. He doesn't need kunai to use FTG. He can warp to anywhere his chakra is. He just uses kunai to quickly and easily disperse his chakra across a battlefield. Understand his chakra is literally sealed in the seals. Minato can used FTG to warp and redirect Itachi's jutsu.

Minato and Itachi are both incredibly fast in handseals. The difference is Minato can use one hand to perform handseals, Itachi can't.

Minato has better stamina. A huge amount of chakra is needed to learn sage mode. Just because he chooses to end his battles quickly doesn't mean he can't fight for a long time.

Minato can sense chakra.

Minato has sage mode that boost all his powers and jutsu. Yes, he did say he wasn't very good at it, but he was able to perfect the transformation. Realize, his definition of not being very good at sage mode might be very different from someone else's definition. He is a very high level ninja and a genius. It's possible he holds himself at a higher standard than majority.

You are right, Minato has no feats in genjutsu. But we do know that Jiraya trained him and Jiraya understood how genjutsu works and knew how to defeat genjutsu. So Minato would understand how genjutsu works and know how to defeat genjutsu. He can use yin release, he is very skilled in chakra control and a genius. There is plenty of evidence to support Minato being able to defeat genjutsu.

Killer Bee never predicted or intercepted Minato's FTG attack. That was a huge misunderstanding. We see Minato warping behind Killer Bee here -

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- Several scenes go by before we see Killer Bee with is sword against Minato's stomach -

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- That means Killer Bee had time to raise his sword while everyone was talking and realizing what just happened. If the manga wanted to show Killer Bee predicting and intercepting Minato's FTG attack then the manga would have showed Killer Bee's sword against Minato immediately after he warped behind him.

Besides, when Minato attacked Obito head on Obito couldn't predict, intercept, counter, or evade Minato's FTG attack even thought he is an incredibly fast ninja with the sharingan, space/time jutsu, and phasing jutsu. Minato could have used the same FTG attack he used on Obito to avoid Killer Bee's sword and defeat him.

Just like some many other threads this is another eye power vs body power. Itachi has the eye power (sharingan) and Minato has the body power (sage mode). But unlike Itachi, Minato doesn't rely as much on his sage mode as Itachi relies on his sharingan. Minato is already incredibly powerful without the boost.

 

[LoZelda101]

Minato wins.

There is a lot of BS in the OP. You should stick to facts. The manga proved the "2v1" statement was garbage. Just like the manga proved Amaterasu can be avoided. Jiraya was not inferior to Oro. Oro made that BS claim.

Minato has Itachi beat in speed. He can use FTG (space/time jutsu) to move at the speed of light. He doesn't need kunai to use FTG. He can warp to anywhere his chakra is. He just uses kunai to quickly and easily disperse his chakra across a battlefield. Understand his chakra is literally sealed in the seals. Minato can used FTG to warp and redirect Itachi's jutsu.

Minato and Itachi are both incredibly fast in handseals. The difference is Minato can use one hand to perform handseals, Itachi can't.

Minato has better stamina. A huge amount of chakra is needed to learn sage mode. Just because he chooses to end his battles quickly doesn't mean he can't fight for a long time.

Minato can sense chakra.

Minato has sage mode that boost all his powers and jutsu. Yes, he did say he wasn't very good at it, but he was able to perfect the transformation. Realize, his definition of not being very good at sage mode might be very different from someone else's definition. He is a very high level ninja and a genius. It's possible he holds himself at a higher standard than majority.

You are right, Minato has no feats in genjutsu. But we do know that Jiraya trained him and Jiraya understood how genjutsu works and knew how to defeat genjutsu. So Minato would understand how genjutsu works and know how to defeat genjutsu. He can use yin release, he is very skilled in chakra control and a genius. There is plenty of evidence to support Minato being able to defeat genjutsu.

Killer Bee never predicted or intercepted Minato's FTG attack. That was a huge misunderstanding. We see Minato warping behind Killer Bee here -

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- Several scenes go by before we see Killer Bee with is sword against Minato's stomach -

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- That means Killer Bee had time to raise his sword while everyone was talking and realizing what just happened. If the manga wanted to show Killer Bee predicting and intercepting Minato's FTG attack then the manga would have showed Killer Bee's sword against Minato immediately after he warped behind him.

Besides, when Minato attacked Obito head on Obito couldn't predict, intercept, counter, or evade Minato's FTG attack even thought he is an incredibly fast ninja with the sharingan, space/time jutsu, and phasing jutsu. Minato could have used the same FTG attack he used on Obito to avoid Killer Bee's sword and defeat him.

Just like some many other threads this is another eye power vs body power. Itachi has the eye power (sharingan) and Minato has the body power (sage mode). But unlike Itachi, Minato doesn't rely as much on his sage mode as Itachi relies on his sharingan. Minato is already incredibly powerful without the boost.

Lol susanoo nulls FTG

 

[shadowcb]

Lol susanoo nulls FTG

No it doesn't, but Minato can used FTG to wrap and redirect susanoo attacks back at susanoo. Besides, Itachi can't maintain susanoo for long. Minato can easily uses FTG throughout an entire battle.

 

[LoZelda101]

No it doesn't, but Minato can used FTG to wrap and redirect susanoo attacks back at susanoo. Besides, Itachi can't maintain susanoo for long. Minato can easily uses FTG throughout an entire battle.

Case in point. Susanoo nulls FTG. It can't get through the armor Lol

 

[Uchihakil]

Itachi shits on iminato

@ members claiming obito did'nt see the chakra in the ftg kunai, nothing supports that claim, he thought he could warp minato before he teleports, it was emphasized that the faster charater wins not that obito did'nt see the chakra

@ members thinking itachi will let minato enter sage mode, amaterasu will lit his ass on fire if he stops for a second and not to mention (minato himself admitted he does'nt use it coz it takes long to knead the chakra for it, and against madara he had the time to knead the chakra because madara was talking with obito)

@ members thinking minato will summon ma and pa to prepp sound genjutsu, in order to summon ma and pa one needs to gather senjutsu chakra, why the hell do you think it took long for jiraiya to summon the elder toads (if minato summons bunta or any frog to stall itachi, itachi will genjutsu the frog, fry it with amaterasu or seal its ass with totsuka)

@ members thinking itachi can't react to minato (itachi reacted to lightning while half blind and heavily sick, coughing blood and shit), itachi can erect susano before minato swings his arm, yea ftg is instant, but minato swinging his arm is'nt, within the time it will take for minato to swing his arm itachi can form a susano to block a rasengan

@ members thinking minato does'nt have a weak mind, how many mother****ing kage level shinobies did genjutsu troll? F*cking wankers, stop using obito as a f*cking example cause he relies on kamui while itachi is a genjutsu specialist

Itachi is superior to minato, ftg is instant, genjutsu is instant, I will like to see minato avoid looking at his target the whole fight (+ itachi's crows) at the same time, as long as minatos eyes are opened he is doomed