Adult Sakura Vs Shin.

[EZQ]

Sakura only managed to jump 1 time backwards against Kaguya's chakra arm, and before she reached the ground Kakashi saved her. That feat is dumb and should not be used anymore.

 

[Jinrou]

I know, but that's besides my point though.

I was just looking to point out the fact you made it seem Sakura was superior to the taijutsu users of the sound four when the lowest taijutsu users stat was the same as hers. 3.

The third databook covers up to chapter 400 iirc. It somehow explains Sakura's poor taijutsu showing against Omoi and Karui after pain invades in chapter 430?

You also agreed with Neo that her war arc taijutsu could potentially be a 4 and i'm not sure how?

After pain's invasion there was a lot of rebuilding and her known teacher (Tsunade) was in a coma. Not long after, preparations for the world war begins so i'm not sure there was any chance in between her showing with Karui and Omoi and the war beginning for her to undergo intense training to bring her taijutsu stat up to a solid 4?

And more chakra =/= better taijutsu skills.

First databook

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Taijutsu

An arduous training can make the body into a weapon!

This is an attack technique that uses strength and physical resistance to deal damage directly to the opponent’s body. This is called Taijutsu. Basically it needs no chakra, allowing for quick strikes in a sequence, without a breach for enemy counterattacks. Being a simple technique, which anyone can learn, its power is directly proportional to the training performed.

 

[KidGamer65]

I was just looking to point out the fact you made it seem Sakura was superior to the taijutsu users of the sound four when the lowest taijutsu users stat was the same as hers. 3.

The third databook covers up to chapter 400 iirc. It somehow explains Sakura's poor taijutsu showing against Omoi and Karui after pain invades in chapter 430?

You also agreed with Neo that her war arc taijutsu could potentially be a 4 and i'm not sure how?

After pain's invasion there was a lot of rebuilding and her known teacher (Tsunade) was in a coma. Not long after, preparations for the world war begins so i'm not sure there was any chance in between her showing with Karui and Omoi and the war beginning for her to undergo intense training to bring her taijutsu stat up to a solid 4?

And more chakra =/= better taijutsu skills.

First databook

Spoiler

Taijutsu

An arduous training can make the body into a weapon!

This is an attack technique that uses strength and physical resistance to deal damage directly to the opponent’s body. This is called Taijutsu. Basically it needs no chakra, allowing for quick strikes in a sequence, without a breach for enemy counterattacks. Being a simple technique, which anyone can learn, its power is directly proportional to the training performed.

Oh yeah, I forgot that she was tied with the rest.

Almost everyone that was shown in the war from Konoha either had new moves or just got stronger so I'm not sure why Sakura would be any different here. Hinata had new Ninjutsu. Kiba had new Ninjutsu. So there was definitely time for them to train, it was just off panel.

And yeah :lol I'm aware that more Taijutsu=/=Better Taijutsu skills. And he said 3.5 or 4. I just agreed with that as a whole. Never said she was definitely up to a 4.

 

[BLAZE]

Sakura only managed to jump 1 time backwards against Kaguya's chakra arm, and before she reached the ground Kakashi saved her. That feat is dumb and should not be used anymore.

can you read along with others who agree with you

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Hinata had new Ninjutsu.

bruh wut :|

do you think sakura will pull a win here with katsuyu

 

[KidGamer65]

can you read along with others who agree with you

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bruh wut :|

do you think sakura will pull a win here with katsuyu

Lmao just read the Manga. She used 64 palms for the first time during the war.

And she might outlast with Katsuyu if she hides in it, but other than that no, she still loses.

And lmaooo what EZQ said is almost right. She only dodged it once before Kakashi had to come save her. But that was from a ridiculous distance away so it's not an amazing speed feat. Doesn't mean it's a bad one either since they are fast enough to prevent Naruto from dodging them when he's a moderate distance away.

 

[BLAZE]

Lmao just read the Manga. She used 64 palms for the first time during the war.

its Taijutsu you Know :| along with all arsenal hyuga's use

But that was from a ridiculous distance away so it's not an amazing speed feat.

agreed.The point was

That feat is dumb and should not be used anymore.

 

[KidGamer65]

its Taijutsu you Know :| along with all arsenal hyuga's use


agreed.The point was

Lmao wtf are you talking about? Obviously it's Taijutsu. Does that change the fact that it's a jutsu she didn't know before? No. That's the point here.

 

[BLAZE]

Lmao wtf are you talking about? Obviously it's Taijutsu. Does that change the fact that it's a jutsu she didn't know before? No. That's the point here.

u said ninjutsu thats what confused me :eww:

 

[KidGamer65]

u said ninjutsu thats what confused me :eww:

It was obvious what point I was making. :lol

 

[BLAZE]

It was obvious what point I was making. :lol

i was confused becoz you mentioned Kiba too so i though you were talking about Ninjutsu.my mistake

 

[Icelerate]

Sakura canonically needed to be saved. Nothing to argue here. If you dont have a defense to block Shin's weapons or the speed and/or power to one shot him in a matter of seconds you'll most likely lose.

Weapons pin her when they hit and then Shin ends her. Byakugo changes nothing.

Sakura canonically needed to be saved to get out of the dimension. Shin managed to get a total of two weapons on her left arm, how does that prove he can completely shut her down fast enough to win here considering his eye powers were already growing weak (

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[KidGamer65]

Sakura canonically needed to be saved to get out of the dimension. Shin managed to get a total of two weapons on her left arm, how does that prove he can completely shut her down fast enough to win here considering his eye powers were already growing weak (

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) and will grow even weaker as the fight prolongs?

:lol They said that Shin's eye powers are weak because they are weak and because they will grow stronger, not because battle makes them get weaker. He got two weapons in her arm and was about to send a Fuhma Shuriken made of his tiny blades straight through her had Sasuke not saved her. Sakura was getting beaten by Shin in canon. There is no arguing she wins here.

 

[Icelerate]

:lol They said that Shin's eye powers are weak because they are weak and because they will grow stronger, not because battle makes them get weaker. He got two weapons in her arm and was about to send a Fuhma Shuriken made of his tiny blades straight through her had Sasuke not saved her. Sakura was getting beaten by Shin in canon. There is no arguing she wins here.

Using MS in battle does make them weaker. You're assuming that Sakura wouldn't be able to dodge a Fuma shuriken of all things had Sasuke not destroyed it with susanoo arrow. Manga canon says the fight is debatable and without a clear victor (

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[Dizzldot]

She loses, anyone saying so already lost in the fact that he tagged her already

 

[KidGamer65]

Using MS in battle does make them weaker. You're assuming that Sakura wouldn't be able to dodge a Fuma shuriken of all things had Sasuke not destroyed it with susanoo arrow. Manga canon says the fight is debatable and without a clear victor (

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Yeah, because of eye strain. Not because of whatever you were talking about not to mention Shin showed no signs of getting weaker so that's a terrible argument to use, and Sakura was blatantly shown to be in a tight post. I could easily use this logic and say "oh, but she can dodge Kunai with ease" yet Shin got her with two of them. Not to mention Shin's ability is to control weapons via telekinesis so obviously being able to dodge thrown projectiles doesn't mean you can dodge his attacks. Bad comparison.


And lmao are you joking with this point? Sasuke also said that Sakura might have the place tidied up yet Sakura was the one who was losing. Sasuke said the fight is debatable, canon shows that Shin is superior as Shin had the upper hand. Sakura was losing. Sakura was going to be finished had Sasuke not saved her.

 

[BLAZE]

Using MS in battle does make them weaker. You're assuming that Sakura wouldn't be able to dodge a Fuma shuriken of all things had Sasuke not destroyed it with susanoo arrow. Manga canon says the fight is debatable and without a clear victor (

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sword

won't she be paralyzed like sasuke was [

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[Icelerate]

Yeah, because of eye strain. Not because of whatever you were talking about not to mention Shin showed no signs of getting weaker so that's a terrible argument to use, and Sakura was blatantly shown to be in a tight post. I could easily use this logic and say "oh, but she can dodge Kunai with ease" yet Shin got her with two of them. Not to mention Shin's ability is to control weapons via telekinesis so obviously being able to dodge thrown projectiles doesn't mean you can dodge his attacks. Bad comparison.

There's a manga statement that states his eyes were getting weaker. It's manga canon that MS users get blind as they keep on using it and that it takes a lot of chakra to use. You're right about telekinesis but Shin threw a straight forward shuriken at that point so your argument is that she couldn't dodge what was already coming at her. If anything due to Shin being able to manipulate the shuriken's trajectory, it would be in Sakura's best interest to dodge at the last second because with a preemptive dodge, Shin would simply be able to curve it around behind her. Sakura getting hit by two projectiles off panel proves what again? She started with no intel on Shin's abilities and despite that, managed to block the attack using a non vital limb.

And lmao are you joking with this point? Sasuke also said that Sakura might have the place tidied up yet Sakura was the one who was losing. Sasuke said the fight is debatable, canon shows that Shin is superior as Shin had the upper hand. Sakura was losing. Sakura was going to be finished had Sasuke not saved her.

Kidomaru at one point also had an upper hand against Neji based on Neji getting impaled in multiple areas yet Kido lost the fight?

@Bold: Based on what again? Going by your logic, KCM Naruto clone would have been taken down by 3rd Raikage if it wasn't for Dodai (

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Also the main reason I'm arguing this is to learn more about Shin. Could care less who wins.

sword

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But Sasuke was hit everywhere on his body whereas Sakura was only hit in one arm. Sakura could still punch with her other arm so she should still be able to move her legs.

 

[Lord Tywin]

As it was said earlier, Sakura was shown to be taking L's and needed to be saved.

 

[Warlocks]

Shin wins

 

[KidGamer65]

There's a manga statement that states his eyes were getting weaker. It's manga canon that MS users get blind as they keep on using it and that it takes a lot of chakra to use. You're right about telekinesis but Shin threw a straight forward shuriken at that point so your argument is that she couldn't dodge what was already coming at her. If anything due to Shin being able to manipulate the shuriken's trajectory, it would be in Sakura's best interest to dodge at the last second because with a preemptive dodge, Shin would simply be able to curve it around behind her. Sakura getting hit by two projectiles off panel proves what again? She started with no intel on Shin's abilities and despite that, managed to block the attack using a non vital limb.

Kidomaru at one point also had an upper hand against Neji based on Neji getting impaled in multiple areas yet Kido lost the fight?

@Bold: Based on what again? Going by your logic, KCM Naruto clone would have been taken down by 3rd Raikage if it wasn't for Dodai (

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Also the main reason I'm arguing this is to learn more about Shin. Could care less who wins.

No, there is a Manga statement that says his eye power is weak. Not that his eye power is getting weaker from battle. Blindness doesn't affect your abilities until you actually become blind. Itachi was able to use Susanoo until his last moment despite being almost blind so that's a moot point to bring. Did Shin show any signs of getting weaker? No. So you don't have a point there.


-Where did I say the bold? Never. What is blatantly implied is that Sakura was in trouble and that Sasuke saved her. Him throwing it doesn't change the fact he can control it at will. Dodging it is useless because it will come right back around for her. The point is, if Sasuke hadn't stepped in the Shuriken would've hit her one way or another.

-Sakura being hit while Shin is unscathed proves that he had the upper hand? Where did I say that having the upper hand=you losing the fight? :lol. Nowhere, and that Dodai point is especially bad because Naruto wasn't shown to be in danger. Sakura was blatantly shown to be in danger.