[Discussion] Admiral level is a joke at this point

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Uhhhh Sabo was the one saying Tora isn't being serious
I thought the exact same thing until I saw multilpe translations. In Cnets translations and every translation Fujitora says that meanwhile Sabo has the inner monologue in his head

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Fujitora: Mouko!!!
[TN: “Raging Tiger”]
Sabo: !!! // (Horizontal gravity?!!)
Fujitora: Very good!! // I’d be disappointed if you didn’t do this much!!
Sabo: !! // (What is this man plotting?!!!)
Fujitora: Hnghhh!!!
Sabo: !
Fujitora: For good or for ill... / I’m prepared to put my own head on the line. // ...If I lose my dice before I roll ‘em... / ...it’ll all be over before the game’s begun.
Sabo: ?!



The line is different in almost every translation but regardless Fuji says it
 

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I thought the exact same thing until I saw multilpe translations. In Cnets translations and every translation Fujitora says that meanwhile Sabo has the inner monologue in his head

10-11
Fujitora: Mouko!!!
[TN: “Raging Tiger”]
Sabo: !!! // (Horizontal gravity?!!)
Fujitora: Very good!! // I’d be disappointed if you didn’t do this much!!
Sabo: !! // (What is this man plotting?!!!)
Fujitora: Hnghhh!!!
Sabo: !
Fujitora: For good or for ill... / I’m prepared to put my own head on the line. // ...If I lose my dice before I roll ‘em... / ...it’ll all be over before the game’s begun.
Sabo: ?!



The line is different in almost every translation but regardless Fuji says it
Nope. Sabo is the one saying it. Why would Fuji be saying that when Sabo is the one trying to provoke him? Not only that, but if you look closely, you can see a glimmer at Fujitora's head, which is a symbol of surprise in manga, meaning Fuji was not expecting Sabo to do what he's doing, so it makes no sense for Fuji to be the one saying that.

It's Sabo.
 

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Nope. Sabo is the one saying it. Why would Fuji be saying that when Sabo is the one trying to provoke him? Not only that, but if you look closely, you can see a glimmer at Fujitora's head, which is a symbol of surprise in manga, meaning Fuji was not expecting Sabo to do what he's doing, so it makes no sense for Fuji to be the one saying that.

It's Sabo.
I'm only saying what the translation said I'm not guessing or using my preferance

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It looks to me that Sabo never opened his mouth against Fuji that would defeat the purpose of the inner monlogue....why would he say something then go into inner monologue. Too me it looks like Fujitora is provoking Sabo and Sabo goes too inner monlogue because he is suspicious of it. Fuji even talks about risking hus life and stuff
 

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I'm only saying what the translation said I'm not guessing or using my preferance

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It looks to me that Sabo never opened his mouth against Fuji that would defeat the purpose of the inner monlogue....why would he say something then go into inner monologue. Too me it looks like Fujitora is provoking Sabo and Sabo goes too inner monlogue because he is suspicious of it. Fuji even talks about risking hus life and stuff
Yeah, that's what the translation says...and Sabo is the character saying it.

Why'd he say something out loud then say something in his mind? Are you serious? You're telling me no one ever says things out loud while thinking, you can only think when you aren't speaking out loud?
 

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Yeah, that's what the translation says...and Sabo is the character saying it.

Why'd he say something out loud then say something in his mind? Are you serious? You're telling me no one ever says things out loud while thinking, you can only think when you aren't speaking out loud?
So your saying Cnet and every translation out there is wrong with Fujitora saying it...loll
 

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So your saying Cnet and every translation out there is wrong with Fujitora saying it...loll
Jesus Christ...how does different translations indicate Fujitora is saying it in any way? They're all the same scans, and every scan indicates it's Sabo talking.

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The part I circled is an indicator of who is talking, and it's pointed at Sabo, NOT Fujitora.
 

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Yeah we saw Ace clashing with an admiral alright.

From all those candidates I only believe that Doflamingo would have a chance of clashing with an admiral. The rest would get their asses kicked.
Well after see what Akoji did to him in seconds, I think he is exactly like the others
 

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Give me a character of those so called "admiral level" fighters who were able to hurt an admiral? yeah there u go except a yonko and the WSM who was able to beat one all the others werent even close while the so called Sabo admiral level is getting tossed around by fuji, well not like I care discussing OP in an Naruto forum anyway but I can tell that the power levels on this forum are the most weird power levels I have ever seen in any OP based forum, even though I've been in so many OP forums, I still havent seen this kind of power levels, such as rating someone as WSM without feats/hype, considering anyone who does something impressive admiral level, and considering yonkos a level on their own, way above admirals even though the strongest yonko had a hard time getting an upper hand against each of the admirals and even when taking an free hit against one admiral he still got half of his head melted away, but then agian there are many fapboys so taking into account this forums power levels then any yonko can man handle the whole navy force, yeah I said it....
 
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Jozu was able to hurt Aokiji :rolleyes:
He was able to hurt Aokiji while aokiji was fighting WB and was in an immobility state making him open for attacks, is hitting someone off guard a feat? and is Jozu the only guy we are talking here? we have Marco who had the backup of like 10 commanders + vista and was getting pushed back by akainu, they even lost curiel against an beaten up akainu, we have ben beckman who is considered above kizaru just cause he raised his hands? I mean really? and the last Sabo who is getting trolled by issho.
 

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He was able to hurt Aokiji while aokiji was fighting WB and was in an immobility state making him open for attacks, is hitting someone off guard a feat? and is Jozu the only guy we are talking here? we have Marco who had the backup of like 10 commanders + vista and was getting pushed back by akainu, they even lost curiel against an beaten up akainu, we have ben beckman who is considered above kizaru just cause he raised his hands? I mean really? and the last Sabo who is getting trolled by issho.
There should be difference in strength between admirals. Considering that both Aokiji and Akainu are offered position of Fleet Admiral, they should be above others.
 

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He was able to hurt Aokiji while aokiji was fighting WB and was in an immobility state making him open for attacks, is hitting someone off guard a feat? and is Jozu the only guy we are talking here? we have Marco who had the backup of like 10 commanders + vista and was getting pushed back by akainu, they even lost curiel against an beaten up akainu, we have ben beckman who is considered above kizaru just cause he raised his hands? I mean really? and the last Sabo who is getting trolled by issho.
Akainu had half marines as back-up
 

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Akainu had half marines as back-up
Half of some marine fodders ryt? Because marine fodders are supposed to make an difference against marco and Vista +10 commanders and croc? Really? In the war marco was portrayed nowhere near akainu or even aokiji at that matter since they are almost equal some tend to say kizaru is weaker (without a single proof, speculation at its best), FA is not a power title, Sengoku didnt necessarily have to be stronger than the admirals, being a FA has to do with power, leadership, and authority among ur people and thats the reason Sengoku nominated aokiji but the WG though that Akainu is a better leader to form a new more ruthless power against the pirates/revos around the world, kizaru is an lazy ass and doesnt seem to have great leadership skills so he was not nominated again this has nothing to do with power, and now the new saying about the new admirals being weaker than the C3 without proof, again speculation...

If u mean admiral level as a general level than yes, where many ppl can fit in, but if u mean admiral level and thats comparable to akainu, aokiji, kizaru, fujitora, than no fighter u listed there is on the level of these, some not even close.
 
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It's Admiral <=> Yonko and Yonko <=> Admiral

My guess is about this: Shanks>Akainu=Kaido>BM=Aokiji>=BB=Kizaru you can switch it up a bit butbthe main point is still there
 
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