[Theory] Admiral Dragon!

[DevilKing II]

So this is my first time making a thread, expecting all kind of comments and suggestions. Here goes

So, I read a theory where it was mentioned Dragon being an Admiral was stated by Oda himself. What if oda didn't give out whole truth and just a part of it, I mean Dragon being a Pirate fleet Admiral and not a Marine Admiral.
Him starting off as a Pirate Main like Luffy and others Coincidentally helping kingdoms and people enabled him to create a point of view towards the world as is now and becoming a Revolutionary instead and the Top officers of the army being his original crew he personally gathered. This will be the first blow to Garp knowing how much of a dedicated marine he is and a member of his family becoming a Pirate and eventually ending up as the man at the zenith of the organisation which is worlds biggest threat.

Well, this is too far fetched and highly unlikely but ONLY IF..

Your thoughts.

 

[-ahhimane-]

If Dragon would have been a Pirate fleet admiral then Garp wouldn't be in Marine till now. WG would have suspended him a long time before for what the revolutionary did.

 

[chopstickchakra]

If Dragon would have been a Pirate fleet admiral then Garp wouldn't be in Marine till now. WG would have suspended him a long time before for what the revolutionary did.

Why would they punish Garp for the actions of his son? Just because they're blood? That's a little ludicrous don't you think, mam your son stole this money you're coming with us.

 

[ethris]

Why would they punish Garp for the actions of his son? Just because they're blood? That's a little ludicrous don't you think, mam your son stole this money you're coming with us.

do you even read one piece? ace died not cause of his actions alone, but becausse of his blood, the D's hide there name, because they will be percecuted by their blood, only reason garp hasnt been punished is cause his good has out weighed his bad, but if his son betrayed the marines in a way that garp wouldve been able to stop him theyd easily cut there losses.

 

[DevilKing II]

If Dragon would have been a Pirate fleet admiral then Garp wouldn't be in Marine till now. WG would have suspended him a long time before for what the revolutionary did.

Luffy defeated a Govt. affiliated Shichibukai, One of the Govt.'s three centres, half killed a Tenryuubito, declared official war on WG (unlike Dragon who is doing it on full throttle but unofficially) but Garp was still in authority.

do you even read one piece? ace died not cause of his actions alone, but becausse of his blood, the D's hide there name, because they will be percecuted by their blood, only reason garp hasnt been punished is cause his good has out weighed his bad, but if his son betrayed the marines in a way that garp wouldve been able to stop him theyd easily cut there losses.

Garp was the hero who supposedly cornered PK, No doubt, but Ace's execution was because he was a huge potential threat for many reasons ex: his bounty well exceeded 500mil. And he was called super rookie based on his strength and all. Him being a D. And Roger's son were no more than mere titles when talking about the reason for his execution.

 

[chopstickchakra]

do you even read one piece? ace died not cause of his actions alone, but becausse of his blood, the D's hide there name, because they will be percecuted by their blood, only reason garp hasnt been punished is cause his good has out weighed his bad, but if his son betrayed the marines in a way that garp wouldve been able to stop him theyd easily cut there losses.

That's not the same at all, that's punishing the child for the actions of the father and it's only one rare example, this would be punishing the father for the actions of the child. The Marines never hunted down Luffy for Dragon's actions though some Marines in the upper echelons knew Dragon was Garp's son and Luffy was Garp's grandson. The Marines never held Garp accountable for Luffy, his blood, why would they for Dragon? Also they don't hunt D's just because of the name D, they even employed Jaguar D Saul and Garp.

 

[loj]

Dragon is no way or has been an Admiral or whatever

 

[DevilKing II]

Dragon is no way or has been an Admiral or whatever

I'm certain I read that it was stated by Oda and his alias was Shiroryuu.

 

[KingHashirama]

do you even read one piece? ace died not cause of his actions alone, but becausse of his blood, the D's hide there name, because they will be percecuted by their blood, only reason garp hasnt been punished is cause his good has out weighed his bad, but if his son betrayed the marines in a way that garp wouldve been able to stop him theyd easily cut there losses.

Garp was also the guy who went against the Pirate King. He was the Hero of the Marines, before Dragon became the most wanted man in the world. Nobody even knew of Dragon being Garp's son until recently, and even then I don't think a huge amount of people know of their connection.

Garp attracts people to the marines, if they had suspended him, it would've been like having having a Yonko become your enemy. Would've been bad for the WG.

 

[loj]

I'm certain I read that it was stated by Oda and his alias was Shiroryuu.

Would be interesting why wasn't it never mentioned in manga or I missed that part :0000

 

[ZoroXTashigi]

I'm certain I read that it was stated by Oda and his alias was Shiroryuu.

The theory pop up because of this picture:

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[chopstickchakra]

I'm certain I read that it was stated by Oda and his alias was Shiroryuu.

I don't think that was ever said by Oda just an accepted fan theory. Plus Dragon's code name being White Dragon is contrary to every other admiral. Dragon's real name is Dragon and his code name would have dragon in it yet this doesn't happen with any other Admiral in the manga ever, Kizaru's real name doesn't have monkey in it anywhere and Kuzan's doesn't have Pheasant. The odds and evidence aren't in the favor of Dragon being an Admiral.

 

[DevilKing II]

Would be interesting why wasn't it never mentioned in manga or I missed that part :0000

Nah it was never in the manga though we'll probably see it all after a small arc of Zou approx. 30chapters later when Dragon and BB face each other or have a little fight hopefully, if not then it probably be a while after that.
I'm not sure either if Oda really did say it or not, only if the theory I read was true.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Oda never once said that Dragon was an admiral. He never even mentioned Dragon's occupation before being a criminal. Not in the manga, SBS or interview.

 

[DevilKing II]

I don't think that was ever said by Oda just an accepted fan theory. Plus Dragon's code name being White Dragon is contrary to every other admiral. Dragon's real name is Dragon and his code name would have dragon in it yet this doesn't happen with any other Admiral in the manga ever, Kizaru's real name doesn't have monkey in it anywhere and Kuzan's doesn't have Pheasant. The odds and evidence aren't in the favor of Dragon being an Admiral.

Ooh, guess my first thread was a fail, eh?

But still, the theory seemed legit. It was about a king with 4 loyal subordinates a bird, a dog, a monkey and a pheasant; the bird finds out something evil about the king and leaves after warning the other three, the dog was way too loyal to the king, the monkey was goofy and didn't know how to respond and the pheasant too lazy to do a thing, being said that it fits perfectly and Kizaru could have been the one who succeeded Dragon.

 

[shon93]

Red Dog=Akainu
Yellow Monkey =Kizaru
Blue Pheasant=Aokiji

What people don't get is Dragon is not a nickname. Monkey D Dragon is his real name in full unlike the admirals who animals names are nicknames

 

[Tobi98]

Who dafuq calls his son Dragon?

 

[chopstickchakra]

Ooh, guess my first thread was a fail, eh?

But still, the theory seemed legit. It was about a king with 4 loyal subordinates a bird, a dog, a monkey and a pheasant; the bird finds out something evil about the king and leaves after warning the other three, the dog was way too loyal to the king, the monkey was goofy and didn't know how to respond and the pheasant too lazy to do a thing, being said that it fits perfectly and Kizaru could have been the one who succeeded Dragon.

I've heard the story and I agree it fits the admirals that we know of but the turning it from a bird to a dragon just to fit the story and the obvious clashing of the code name pattern makes me lean to the side that someone just found this story and tried really hard to make it fit. There's always the possibility I'm just not onboard with it.

 

[Portgas D Xatch]

In the literal, I believe Dragon is probably an admiral look at the facts...he's the leader of an army that is feared by the world government, since the world is primarily water and they would have to use ships to get from war zone to warzone, why wouldn't Dragon still be in charge of those ships? Isn't an admiral one who commands a fleet?...I don't think he was ever a marine admiral like the post implies however, but it would be cool if it was true.

 

[chopstickchakra]

In the literal, I believe Dragon is probably an admiral look at the facts...he's the leader of an army that is feared by the world government, since the world is primarily water and they would have to use ships to get from war zone to warzone, why wouldn't Dragon still be in charge of those ships? Isn't an admiral one who commands a fleet?...I don't think he was ever a marine admiral like the post implies however, but it would be cool if it was true.

Well yeah if he has titles within the revs he's the Fleet Admiral but he may not use those titles since they are associated to the navy.