[Suggestion] Add an Archives Section

Should an archives section be added?

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Icelerate

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I just thought of a brilliant suggestion so mods and admins, bare with me and hear me out.

In the history of threads created by a user, only 4 pages worth of threads shows up which means that the user and everyone else no longer has direct access to certain threads as time goes on. Furthermore, there is a rule that states that old threads can no longer be bumped back. I understand why this rule is put into place and I'm not questioning it. Old threads can't be bumped because certain events in the manga may make certain threads and posts downright wrong and if old threads are bumped, some users can be ridiculed on their previous posts even though at that point there posts might have been logical. However, there are certain classic threads that are always going to be relevant, but once they get flushed out by constant irrelevant threads, they are often buried and forgotten.

So I request that a new section, which would probably be called the Archives Section, be made. Now this is not going to be a section where members can simply create new threads at whim, but it will be a section where classic high quality threads with a lot of important information are going to be permanently moved. These quality threads can include theories, heated VS thread discussions and analysis of different aspects of the manga. If mods want, I don't mind if they lock these threads after the discussion is over, but this way, threads considered masterpieces can still remain to be viewed by members or non members without them having to dig their way to a quality thread.

Since it will be tough for mods to decide which thread deserves to be placed within this archives section, I suggest that threads that automatically get at least ten thanks or another rating system should automatically be placed within this section. If mods find a troll thread that got many thanks, they could simply delete it or remove it from the archives section altogether.

So what are your thoughts on this?
 
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Would use too much bandwidth to hoard old threads?

Let's keep it current; it would be pointless because so few would actually use it and really? Mods aren't going to waste time nitpicking through good and bad threads, and that itself is something subjective.

Be realistic.

I for one am not interested in outdated threads that decrease in validity as the manga moves forward.
 

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Hmm i like these kind of stuff .

Btw .Do you know omigili ? Its like an archive you will find all the NB undeleted threads .
No I don't know what omigili is. What do you mean by undeleted threads? Don't you mean deleted threads? If so, link me to this place.
Would use too much bandwidth to hoard old threads?

Let's keep it current; it would be pointless because so few would actually use it and really? Mods aren't going to waste time nitpicking through good and bad threads, and that itself is something subjective.

Be realistic.

I for one am not interested in outdated threads that decrease in validity as the manga moves forward.
It wouldn't use much bandwidth since the amount of threads that are being stored in this section will be miniscule to all the threads that are being created in other sections. In reality, most of these threads are still within NB database so they are in fact using up bandwidth despite the fact that most have a hard time finding these threads.

Mods don't have to waste time, as I said, certain threads with enough likes will automatically be promoted to the archives status and if the mods or users feel the thread that got moved to archives was lacking, it can be moved back to the Naruto Discussion section or wherever.
 

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It wouldn't use much bandwidth since the amount of threads that are being stored in this section will be miniscule to all the threads that are being created in other sections. In reality, most of these threads are still within NB database so they are in fact using up bandwidth despite the fact that most have a hard time finding these threads.

Mods don't have to waste time, as I said, certain threads with enough likes will automatically be promoted to the archives status and if the mods or users feel the thread that got moved to archives was lacking, it can be moved back to the Naruto Discussion section or wherever.
If the amount is so miniscule, it's not worthy of a whole section or to be named an archive. And is there even such a function that threads get moved depending on the amount of likes? Not likely.

It would have to be mod-executed.
 

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If the amount is so miniscule, it's not worthy of a whole section or to be named an archive. And is there even such a function that threads get moved depending on the amount of likes? Not likely.

It would have to be mod-executed.
It uses less bandwidth and it would be miniscule compared to the Naruto Discussion section. It would still be fairly large compared to most other sections of NB. As for a function where a thread gets moved based on the number of likes received, there isn't but it can easily be programmed.
 

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It uses less bandwidth and it would be miniscule compared to the Naruto Discussion section. It would still be fairly large compared to most other sections of NB. As for a function where a thread gets moved based on the number of likes received, there isn't but it can easily be programmed.
And as I said, it would be pointless.

The manga is ongoing and lot's of things are shifting quickly, old threads would become obsolete quite quickly and then what? Serving to be a mere archaism.

Just take this past week, Gai has been jumping through all sorts of tiers, and may again this week.
 

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And as I said, it would be pointless.

The manga is ongoing and lot's of things are shifting quickly, old threads would become obsolete quite quickly and then what? Serving to be a mere archaism.

Just take this past week, Gai has been jumping through all sorts of tiers, and may again this week.
There are other threads that will be relevant timeless classics. For example, I believe of Draegod's is a masterpiece and since Hanzo is dead and no longer relevant. We won't be seeing anything more from him. For that reason, this thread will always be relevant and when future Hanzo VS threads come up, people can have easy access to obtaining his feats as opposed to going about it the hard way.

If a thread becomes irrelevant as new feats come up, they can be deleted.
 

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There are other threads that will be relevant timeless classics. For example, I believe of Draegod's is a masterpiece and since Hanzo is dead and no longer relevant. We won't be seeing anything more from him. For that reason, this thread will always be relevant and when future Hanzo VS threads come up, people can have easy access to obtaining his feats as opposed to going about it the hard way.

If a thread becomes irrelevant as new feats come up, they can be deleted.
"Timeless classic"

It's a thread on a NB forum, not an album or piece of fine art.

And that thread you referenced is a joke, Hanzo beating Minato or Tobirama? Give me strength.
 

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"Timeless classic"

It's a thread on a NB forum, not an album or piece of fine art.
Well a well written thread by a member can be classified as their intellectual property kind of like books so I have no reason to believe a thread can not be considered a classic.
And that thread you referenced is a joke, Hanzo beating Minato or Tobirama? Give me strength.
The point of me linking that thread is to show you an analysis of Hanzo's abilities. Whether he beats Minato or Tobirama is irrelevant and not really the point I'm trying to make.
 

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No I don't know what omigili is. What do you mean by undeleted threads? Don't you mean deleted threads? If so, link me to this place.
I can't post a link for a site here .but i can tell you what Omgili is .

Omgili is a vertical search engine that focuses on "many to many" user generated content platforms, such as, forums, discussion groups, answer boards and others.
This crawler based, vertical search engine, scans millions of online discussions worldwide in over 100,000 boards and forums, and is able to differentiate between discussion entities, such as, title, topic, answer and post date.
Users can use Omgili to find consumer opinions, debates, discussions, personal experiences, answers and solutions.


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If the thread is not deleted by the staff,you can find it even if its a year ago.
 

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I just thought of a brilliant suggestion so mods and admins, bare with me and hear me out.

In the history of threads created by a user, only 4 pages worth of threads shows up which means that the user and everyone else no longer has direct access to certain threads as time goes on. Furthermore, there is a rule that states that old threads can no longer be bumped back. I understand why this rule is put into place and I'm not questioning it. Old threads can't be bumped because certain events in the manga may make certain threads and posts downright wrong and if old threads are bumped, some users can be ridiculed on their previous posts even though at that point there posts might have been logical. However, there are certain classic threads that are always going to be relevant, but once they get flushed out by constant irrelevant threads, they are often buried and forgotten.

So I request that a new section, which would probably be called the Archives Section, be made. Now this is not going to be a section where members can simply create new threads at whim, but it will be a section where classic high quality threads with a lot of important information are going to be permanently moved. These quality threads can include theories, heated VS thread discussions and analysis of different aspects of the manga. If mods want, I don't mind if they lock these threads after the discussion is over, but this way, threads considered masterpieces can still remain to be viewed by members or non members without them having to dig their way to a quality thread.

Since it will be tough for mods to decide which thread deserves to be placed within this archives section, I suggest that threads that automatically get at least ten thanks or another rating system should automatically be placed within this section. If mods find a troll thread that got many thanks, they could simply delete it or remove it from the archives section altogether.

So what are your thoughts on this?
The reality of the situation is that your idea undermines itself completely.

For starters if you specify your search, you can find nearly any thread you made. The history of threads created thing searches on all the threads you ever made and if that exceeds the 4 pages, only the most recent ones will appear on those pages. However if you use the search button and set in place specific search restrictions (date, section etc.), you can still find them. So you are not really correct in saying that they don't have direct access anymore to certain threads. Using the search button doesn't really take much effort.

Secondly terms like 'high quality', 'classic' and 'masterpeice' are very subjective. That you use VS threads as an example is a clear justification of that as from my point of view there's no way a VS thread can ever be considered of a high quality, a masterpeice nor classic.

The biggest problem with this however is that it's simply unrealistic and unreasonable. Assuming there is a plugin that automatically moves threads to a specific section when they fit certain requirements, what would those requirements be? Things like thanks or ratings or posts for that matter have no strong direc connection with the quality of the thread, on the contrary. You make it appear like that only one or two troll threads occasionally will end up there and that we just have to move them, but I think it's more realistically to assume that most threads that end up there are or just regular or troll threads and that these so-called quality threads are a minority and even ended up there by a fluke. We are not going to implement a plugin that moves threads which then have to move back again. So the only alternative is that mods manually start moving threads, which is simply unrealistic, unreasonable and undoable considering the amount of threads that have been posted and are being posted on NB. You would then first need to find a way so that many threads automatically are excluded, but even if that happens that would still require a considerable amount of time from a mod for something that's, as said, very subjective. Then people are going to say 'why is his thread there, but not mine?'.

Finally your suggestion has the inherent contradiction that eventually that section too would be piled up with threads and by default we are not going to make a section just to have 5 threads sitting there.
 

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The reality of the situation is that your idea undermines itself completely.

For starters if you specify your search, you can find nearly any thread you made. The history of threads created thing searches on all the threads you ever made and if that exceeds the 4 pages, only the most recent ones will appear on those pages. However if you use the search button and set in place specific search restrictions (date, section etc.), you can still find them. So you are not really correct in saying that they don't have direct access anymore to certain threads. Using the search button doesn't really take much effort.
Well I didn't really pay much attention to how the search button works and I just used it and it does seem to work fine. However, you may miss an informative thread and never know which user posted it or forget its title.
Secondly terms like 'high quality', 'classic' and 'masterpeice' are very subjective. That you use VS threads as an example is a clear justification of that as from my point of view there's no way a VS thread can ever be considered of a high quality, a masterpeice nor classic.
You must haven't been on the VS colosseum because some debates are actually very interesting to read. Although I'm talking mainly about analysis threads and such.
The biggest problem with this however is that it's simply unrealistic and unreasonable. Assuming there is a plugin that automatically moves threads to a specific section when they fit certain requirements, what would those requirements be? Things like thanks or ratings or posts for that matter have no strong direc connection with the quality of the thread, on the contrary. You make it appear like that only one or two troll threads occasionally will end up there and that we just have to move them, but I think it's more realistically to assume that most threads that end up there are or just regular or troll threads and that these so-called quality threads are a minority and even ended up there by a fluke. We are not going to implement a plugin that moves threads which then have to move back again. So the only alternative is that mods manually start moving threads, which is simply unrealistic, unreasonable and undoable considering the amount of threads that have been posted and are being posted on NB. You would then first need to find a way so that many threads automatically are excluded, but even if that happens that would still require a considerable amount of time from a mod for something that's, as said, very subjective. Then people are going to say 'why is his thread there, but not mine?'.
How about a voting system where a person with more posts and experience has a higher influence in sending threads to the archives section? You can also give premium members a higher influence in that regard which would give better benefits to premium users. Also if an undeserving thread somehow ends up getting placed in the archives section, there can be rating system to remove it which allows mods to not have to bother doing anything. If people start saying, "why is my thread not here?" then it encourages more people to make better quality threads in the first place. This means that even if this system has inherent flaws, the thread quality can still be marginally improved in all the other sections.
Finally your suggestion has the inherent contradiction that eventually that section too would be piled up with threads and by default we are not going to make a section just to have 5 threads sitting there.
No you don't get the point, there will obviously be a lot of threads in that section but not as many as in the Naruto Discussion, Manga Discussion and Versus Colosseum. On the contrary, all those piled up threads, though numerous in quantity, will be of better quality than 90% of all threads on NB so the chances of you wasting your time on a dull thread will be slimmer.

Anyway I've got another idea so here me out. Suppose instead of a voting system in place to send threads to the required destination, a user can select their top threads to this section? The number of threads they can send to this section could depend on various factors which include join date, reputation, posts and previous threads they've made. Also premium users can be given the privilege of sending extra threads thus ensuring that more people pay for premium.
 

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I would like this idea to be implemented. Analysis threads, very good vs threads, etc. The RP has one [RP hall of fame], so I don't see why this shouldn't.
 
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