[Discussion] Ace vs doflamingo

miino

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do u read Manga?! Mingo is so powerful ,,, his awesomeness and his royal bloodline ,,, he is beating law and luffy at the moment... ace stands no chance
 

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Doflamingo mid-high diff. Sanji's fire couldn't burn Doflamingo's strings away, I doubt Ace can either. There's still a possibility that Ace can turn into fire, deform, and escape whatever method the strings bind with, but we don't know if it can definitely happen since we don't quite know the limits of Doflamingo's control.

Seeing that Doflamingo has greater speed feats than Ace too, I just don't see Ace winning. Teach mentioned that it was a while since Ace was hit physically, indicating he relies heavily on his Fruit's intangibility, so Doflamingo's Haki-laced blows can knock Ace off his feet and cause him to stagger, which could make all the difference. Seeing as Doflamingo could take Red Hawk, a fiery attack with Haki laced into it with no significant injuries, then I just don't see Ace harming Doflamingo that much. Plus, Doflamingo can make it two vs one with Black Knight, perhaps even multiple clones. Bird Cage can just be bad news for Ace.
 

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Lol and people are always complaining that Ace is underrated

Mingo mid diff, I'm an ace fan but no amount of fanboying is strong enough for me to picture ace winning
 

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People need to understand that High diff would mean it could go both ways :/

In saying so, I think that it could go both ways XD... There both powerful, fast, and have super Haxxed devil fruits. Given now that we are speaking in the terms of "Time skip" where Haki has Been introduced properly and many people seem to use it we should definitely have Ace be on somewhat the same level as sanji at LEAST when he is using haki..... At least. In saying so, ace who already has one of the most powerful devil fruit has gotten even stronger. Thus putting flamingo and ace on the same level.
 
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