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Am i the only one who thinks that ace actually won that encounter between him and BB?

i think ace actually won that fight himself bt BB captured him only becoz ace was worn off in the end of the battle and BB pirates captured him

much like what happened between BB and WB.when BB was gonna loose he received help from BB pirates

i think at the end when luffy and BB finally encounter with each other luffy will get to know abt this.more like BB will start blabbing abt the incident during the battle and luffy replies "i already knew" and BB gets surprised by the reply.this will show that luffy always had faith in his brother and his strength.like how he knew that all along that ace will never get beat by someone coward like BB and then proceed to buttobasu BB himself :th-007::hs:
 

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Nope Teach actually low diffed Ace.
Ace threw everything he had against Teach but Teach just took it all. You could argue that Teach wasn't even going all out against Ace. Teach was also still learning how to use his fruit plus he had no intention of killing Ace.
 

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Nope Teach actually low diffed Ace.
Ace threw everything he had against Teach but Teach just took it all. You could argue that Teach wasn't even going all out against Ace. Teach was also still learning how to use his fruit plus he had no intention of killing Ace.
everything bt the last one.we never saw the outcome of the battle between the two.only get to know ace was captured later on.im not saying im 100% sure abt this bt this is wt my instinct tells me.BB getting cocky and underestimating his opponent becoz of his DF is exactly why i think its a possible scenario.and dnt get the wrong idea of i'm saying ace is stronger than BB.BB even thought he could take on WB and lost.fights arent all abt power and strength its abt will too.may be ace pushed his own limit and took down BB with that last attack of his and after that BB pirates came and captured ace,rescuing their captain.i think this is a possible scenario oda may play later when luffy vs BB happens
 

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Blackbeard’s crew was watching from the outside. Blackbeard told his crew to not interfere because they are too weak for him.

Blackbeard beat him
 

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I'd like for it to be true. Even if Oda uses whichever is hotter is stronger. Fire can still be the best just like lava or lightning

Lightning can be the best because... It's hottest. Point blank period. Lightning is hotter than the surface of the sun. (Not the inside)

Lava can be the best because if u hit lava with fire or lightning... It will only make the lava hotter. Only way to over heat lava is to make it boil and neither lightning or fire can get that hot

Fire can be the best because large amounts = heat. I think it's 46 gallons of gas = the heat of a lightning bolt. That's allot of fire. But look at it in Yamamoto from bleach perspective.. someone could get good enough to create as much fire as an entire island and condense it all down into a tiny fist (yamoto condenses the sun down into a sword, and erases anything he touches out of existence and reduces all to Ash 😍)




Edit: I also hope this opens up people minds to the differences between these three logias and how each could be stronger than the other, even using Oda logic
Lava will probably win going against these two because they will just make lava hotter.. but it's not as good as lightning is (possibly fire) when going against other people because they are hotter (possibly fire) than lava normally

lightning is the best overall going against other fruits because it has the highest heat and speed. It's gonna fry and burn everyone quicker than lava and fire(possibly)

fire is the weakest on average as it's the coldest on average but with a good user it can even be better than lightning. If someone can create on average 50 gallons of gas worth of fire than that can over power lightning. That would be absurd amounts of fire flying everywhere so they would of course need to learn to condense it as well.
 
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I'd like for it to be true. Even if Oda uses whichever is hotter is stronger. Fire can still be the best just like lava or lightning

Lightning can be the best because... It's hottest. Point blank period. Lightning is hotter than the surface of the sun. (Not the inside)

Lava can be the best because if u hit lava with fire or lightning... It will only make the lava hotter. Only way to over heat lava is to make it boil and neither lightning or fire can get that hot

Fire can be the best because large amounts = heat. I think it's 46 gallons of gas = the heat of a lightning bolt. That's allot of fire. But look at it in Yamamoto from bleach perspective.. someone could get good enough to create as much fire as an entire island and condense it all down into a tiny fist (yamoto condenses the sun down into a sword, and erases anything he touches out of existence and reduces all to Ash 😍)




Edit: I also hope this opens up people minds to the differences between these three logias and how each could be stronger than the other, even using Oda logic
cool possibility.
 
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Blackbeard’s crew was watching from the outside. Blackbeard told his crew to not interfere because they are too weak for him.

Blackbeard beat him
why repeating wt we already know? ofcoz this is abt the outcome of the battle not abt wt happened before that.its not like BB pirates went to another island so that their captain and ace to have their fight.they were still there.so if ace was weakened enough even BB pirates can take him out.no one still dnt know wt actually happened after the fight.i think since oda didnt show the result of the battle itself there is a high probability that he will play out this later on
 

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why repeating wt we already know? ofcoz this is abt the outcome of the battle not abt wt happened before that.its not like BB pirates went to another island so that their captain and ace to have their fight.they were still there.so if ace was weakened enough even BB pirates can take him out.no one still dnt know wt actually happened after the fight.i think since oda didnt show the result of the battle itself there is a high probability that he will play out this later on
You didn’t read what I said properly because I said that he told them to stay out of the fight, meaning they didn’t join in regardless if he was weakened or not.

The final part of that fight was the clash, the rest inbetween was cut out and maybe revealed until after the end when luffy fights Blackbeard.
 

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You didn’t read what I said properly because I said that he told them to stay out of the fight, meaning they didn’t join in regardless if he was weakened or not.

The final part of that fight was the clash, the rest inbetween was cut out and maybe revealed until after the end when luffy fights Blackbeard.
yh thats wt im saying oda will most likely play a part abt this at the end when luffy vs BB happens.which is y there is high chance that BB revealing ace actually won that last encounter and with BB pirates help they captured him or may be BB use some crafty method to win over by the end
 

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I'd like for it to be true. Even if Oda uses whichever is hotter is stronger. Fire can still be the best just like lava or lightning

Lightning can be the best because... It's hottest. Point blank period. Lightning is hotter than the surface of the sun. (Not the inside)

Lava can be the best because if u hit lava with fire or lightning... It will only make the lava hotter. Only way to over heat lava is to make it boil and neither lightning or fire can get that hot

Fire can be the best because large amounts = heat. I think it's 46 gallons of gas = the heat of a lightning bolt. That's allot of fire. But look at it in Yamamoto from bleach perspective.. someone could get good enough to create as much fire as an entire island and condense it all down into a tiny fist (yamoto condenses the sun down into a sword, and erases anything he touches out of existence and reduces all to Ash 😍)




Edit: I also hope this opens up people minds to the differences between these three logias and how each could be stronger than the other, even using Oda logic
Lava will probably win going against these two because they will just make lava hotter.. but it's not as good as lightning is (possibly fire) when going against other people because they are hotter (possibly fire) than lava normally

lightning is the best overall going against other fruits because it has the highest heat and speed. It's gonna fry and burn everyone quicker than lava and fire(possibly)

fire is the weakest on average as it's the coldest on average but with a good user it can even be better than lightning. If someone can create on average 50 gallons of gas worth of fire than that can over power lightning. That would be absurd amounts of fire flying everywhere so they would of course need to learn to condense it as well.
still dnt know wt ace vs BB got to do with this :what: may be i couldnt catch wt u were trying to say :sweat:
 

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Nope Teach actually low diffed Ace.
Ace threw everything he had against Teach but Teach just took it all. You could argue that Teach wasn't even going all out against Ace. Teach was also still learning how to use his fruit plus he had no intention of killing Ace.
You don't know what a low-dif is if you think Teach low-diffed Ace.
 
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