[Discussion] Ace>luffy

I m an Ass

Active member
Regular
Joined
Sep 2, 2014
Messages
1,279
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
You must be registered for see images
blackbeard have a scar to shanks before he had a devil fruit of course
You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

"it's not like i was careless"
oda himself will show you that ace is still stronger than luffy trust me
 
Last edited:

VongolaX

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Jul 28, 2012
Messages
17,133
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Ace's physical strength is weaker than Luffy's.

Gear two sent NB flying, Ace couldn't do that.

Base luffy punched Jinbei as well no haki involved.
 

Bogard

Active member
Supreme
Joined
Apr 7, 2012
Messages
21,914
Kin
8💸
Kumi
3💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Vergo broke the strongest part of Sanji's body with a base kick and i'm pretty certain Teach is physically stronger than him(probably even used armament to boot since he was in logia mode), so i won't really hold it against Ace, but more acknowledge it as a testament of Teach's physical strength. Even his own subordinates were acknowledging that Ace was a physical monster even without his devil fruit.

As a child he was accomplishing inhuman prowess(for a child) like lifting Dadan(who is particularly huge) with one hand through the entire forest, breaking trees with base kicks, continuously defeating Luffy who is immune to blunt damage and so on, so can't even imagine him in his adult form(as a rookie he could even hold a physical monster like Jimbei to a draw). His physical strength has always been emphasized to be above Luffy's. Now with gear third mode, i'm not sure
 

TRE MERCER

Active member
Legendary
Joined
May 13, 2014
Messages
13,251
Kin
22💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Vergo broke the strongest part of Sanji's body with a base kick and i'm pretty certain Teach is physically stronger than him(probably even used armament to boot since he was in logia mode), so i won't really hold it against Ace, but more acknowledge it as a testament of Teach's physical strength. Even his own subordinates were acknowledging that Ace was a physical monster even without his devil fruit.

As a child he was accomplishing inhuman prowess(for a child) like lifting Dadan(who is particularly huge) with one hand through the entire forest, breaking trees with base kicks, continuously defeating Luffy who is immune to blunt damage and so on, so can't even imagine him in his adult form(as a rookie he could even hold a physical monster like Jimbei to a draw). His physical strength has always been emphasized to be above Luffy's. Now with gear third mode, i'm not sure
Teach physically stronger than Vergo? What?
 

TRE MERCER

Active member
Legendary
Joined
May 13, 2014
Messages
13,251
Kin
22💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
What's wrong with that? Teach is a physical monster with a different body to others(according to Marco)
PTS Luffy and Ace tanked a hit from teach and was still able to fight. Mind you this same Luffy couldn't even hurt a Pacista. After time skip Sanji one shotted one. Then he got his bone broke by Vergo pre Haki. This should be enough to let you know that physical strength from Part 1-2 increased greatly. If Luffy or Ace would have took a hit from a serious Vergo it would have been game.
 

Bogard

Active member
Supreme
Joined
Apr 7, 2012
Messages
21,914
Kin
8💸
Kumi
3💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
PTS Luffy and Ace tanked a hit from teach and was still able to fight. Mind you this same Luffy couldn't even hurt a Pacista. After time skip Sanji one shotted one. Then he got his bone broke by Vergo pre Haki. This should be enough to let you know that physical strength from Part 1-2 increased greatly. If Luffy or Ace would have took a hit from a serious Vergo it would have been game.
Teach never directly hit Luffy. All what Luffy hit was the ground
 

TRE MERCER

Active member
Legendary
Joined
May 13, 2014
Messages
13,251
Kin
22💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Whatever
You must be registered for see images

Someone Ace could physically stand against during 5days straight as a rookie...
Current Luffy is tiers above that Luffy not to mention i would love to see Ace try and tank something like this.

You must be registered for see images
 

Bogard

Active member
Supreme
Joined
Apr 7, 2012
Messages
21,914
Kin
8💸
Kumi
3💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Current Luffy is tiers above that Luffy not to mention i would love to see Ace try and tank something like this.

You must be registered for see images
Well you're the one who started the comparison with Luffy pre-timeskip, so i wanted to shut down your argument. As for current Luffy, i already said in this same thread that i also don't think he can match the power of current gear3 Luffy with his physical strength alone(although he has the fire ability to make up for it), but still Jimbei still showed the capacity to operate on his level post-timeskip as well(as far as gear2 is concerned at least), so i won't say Ace is lagging behind especially since he had at least 2years to become stronger after his Jimbei battle
 

Uzumaki Macho

Active member
Elite
Joined
Jul 23, 2014
Messages
6,663
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Well you're the one who started the comparison with Luffy pre-timeskip, so i wanted to shut down your argument. As for current Luffy, i already said in this same thread that i also don't think he can match the power of current gear3 Luffy with his physical strength alone(although he has the fire ability to make up for it), but still Jimbei still showed the capacity to operate on his level post-timeskip as well(as far as gear2 is concerned at least), so i won't say Ace is lagging behind especially since he had at least 2years to become stronger after his Jimbei battle
Why do you just assume that Jinbe didn't get stronger as well?
 
Top