[Discussion] Ace>luffy

[LordRaikage]

He got 1 shot while a fodder

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ace is scrub..

 

[Lord Tywin]

I would like you to take a good look at

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page before posting that point again.




@Bold: NO.

Luffy was nowhere near his full health.

it does sound like fanboying, but Ace has shown multiple instances of durability
-taking hits from Blackbeard, which his commanders commented on his physical ability
-The torture baptism thing when you first enter impel down
- fought jimbei for 5 days to a stalemate
- a hole blown through his chest and didn't die instantly.

honestly, I can't see luffy beating ace, atleast not yet.

I don't think BB used Haki on him, giving the superiority of his fruit.
ok
Had logia advantage
I don't think it matters since he could't move anyhow

I don't see how Ace would tank a single haki jet pistol from luffy.

 

[I m an Ass]

Lmao, you ask for evidence, when you haven't shown yours. Your thread is full of shit.

i've shown my evidence,you on the other hand want to remain blind that's all

 

[I m an Ass]

I think ace takes this honestly. Just with df alone aces trumps luffies. Fire > rubber. But that's not gonna be that way forever. Eventually luffy will be stronger. I just personally think not yet

i agree with luffy will be stronger and oda will make it clear somehow ,but right now he's not.

 

[sage1999]

ace fruit power was what made him so powerful..thr ability to burn towns. Blackbeard didnt get one ed, he did this to show Ace his power, and when he went full serious he destroyed Ace. Luffy can bear the heat of Ace fire (he beared the heat of lightning by Enel, which is 5x hotter thn the S.A of the Sun). And as for Ace surviving even tho he had a hole in the chest..

Luffy survived Magellan poison, fought off wolves in the freezing cold, used Haki, recovered in 20 hours from what should have ben 3 days, then went and fought Magellan again, then went to MF, got kicked by Kizaru and got back up after an Hormone shoot, then used Haki again, along with Gear 2 and 3 numerous times.. and then, at the very last when his strength left him did Ace had to save him. And Luffy also survinved with a massive scar in his chest... so yh currently Luffy >> Ace

 

[ANiMUS]

Ace is no more than his DF. Luffy is adept all three forms of Haki where as Ace has mastered none :|
Luffy is faster, can predict Ace's movements with CoA, and is physically stronger than Ace since Ace and Luffy were on par with each other back in Alabasta.

DF is Ace's only edge where as in every other way Luffy comes off as a better combatant according to feats so imo Luffy>Ace U_U

Even if Ace does a big fire attack Luffy can probably punch through it with Elephant Gun

 

[I m an Ass]

Ace is no more than his DF. Luffy is adept all three forms of Haki where as Ace has mastered none :|
Luffy is faster, can predict Ace's movements with CoA, and is physically stronger than Ace since Ace and Luffy were on par with each other back in Alabasta.

DF is Ace's only edge where as in every other way Luffy comes off as a better combatant according to feats so imo Luffy>Ace U_U

Even if Ace does a big fire attack Luffy can probably punch through it with Elephant Gun

no proof at all show me proof

 

[ANiMUS]

no proof at all show me proof

Show proof of Ace controlling any of the three forms of Haki, being faster, or physically stronger than Luffy.

 

[OG sama]

I do think Ace is stronger. Just because I think it will be mentioned either end of dressrosa or sometime in the wano arc that he's surpassed him. But Ace is nowhere near admiral level, one clash when he had the DF advantage against a half assed admiral doesn't put him on par with one. Aokiji fought 10 days with an admiral who should have had an even bigger advantage against him.

 

[I m an Ass]

Show proof of Ace controlling any of the three forms of Haki, being faster, or physically stronger than Luffy.

sure first show me where shanks,whitebeard,roger,dragon,3 admirals mihawk,and every top tier in the new world showed 3 sins of haki.

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because there is non. So luffy > shanks,whitebeard,roger,dragon,3 admirals mihawk,and every top tier in the new world right?

 

[OG sama]

sure first show me where shanks,whitebeard,roger,dragon,3 admirals mihawk,and every top tier in the new world showed 3 sins of haki.

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because there is non. So luffy > shanks,whitebeard,roger,dragon,3 admirals mihawk,and every top tier in the new world right?

No I think he's saying you dont know how good Aces Haki is, for it to be so clear in your mind that he's stronger. Of course you dont have to be a Top tier to have all three, but most have at least the two basic types. Ace has shown only CoC, which is as good as useless right now.

 

[ANiMUS]

sure first show me where shanks,whitebeard,roger,dragon,3 admirals mihawk,and every top tier in the new world showed 3 sins of haki.

right you can't

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because there is non. So luffy > shanks,whitebeard,roger,dragon,3 admirals mihawk,and every top tier in the new world right?

Roger has hearing of all things and was able to take down WB Haki is kinda implied :| Shanks, and white beard have all showed conquers Haki, so did white beard, Whitebeard tanking a bunch of Akainu's attacks prove CoA. Zoro has CoA so I can't see him not learning it from Mihawk. Could u try and make up an actually good argument? :| I don't even know if the admirals have Haki though.

 

[I m an Ass]

Roger has hearing of all things and was able to take down WB Haki is kinda implied :| Shanks, and white beard have all showed conquers Haki, so did white beard, Whitebeard tanking a bunch of Akainu's attacks prove CoA. Zoro has CoA so I can't see him not learning it from Mihawk. Could u try and make up an actually good argument? :| I don't even know if the admirals have Haki though.

son,ace at the age of 10 showed conquers haki at marine ford arc he said "you too have it".



Physical Abilities
Ace Carries Curly Dadan
Ace's immense strength as a child.
Aside from the powers granted by the Devil Fruit he consumed, Ace possessed immense physical strength. Signs of his great physical potential were already evident at his early childhood, where he was able to beat some local thugs who spoke ill of his father "half to death", and was also shown sitting on top of a huge animal (possibly a bull) he killed with his staff, during his first meeting with Luffy. Also later on the same day he was shown to easily break a giant tree with ease. Ace was already very strong when he left his hometown, three years before Luffy did the same.

Ace demonstrated his strength during his battle with Blackbeard: he was able to take Blackbeard's punches, which were so powerful that the first made Ace cough up blood and the second nearly broke his neck, and retaliate. Van Augur noted that, as expected of the Whitebeard Pirates 2nd division commander, Ace's basic combat skills were quite formidable even without his Devil Fruit powers.

He fought equally with Jinbe in the past; they nearly killed each other in a fight that lasted for five days. Ace then survived a battle with Whitebeard that took place immediately after, showing immense stamina and durability. He was one of the few people to be able to take a "baptizing" in boiling water in Impel Down without flinching, which is considered an impressive feat.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

One of the dumbest topics I've seen. And that says a lot.

Jinbe and Ace fought to a draw. That's all I'm gonna say for now.

 

[I m an Ass]

One of the dumbest topics I've seen. And that says a lot.

Jinbe and Ace fought to a draw. That's all I'm gonna say for now.

did jimbei stand up again ?

who fell first on the ground...right jimbei.

how did ace have enough strengh to make fire again to protect his friends ?

how did he have the strngth to battle whitbeard ??

try again later

 

[ANiMUS]

son,ace at the age of 10 showed conquers haki at marine ford arc he said "you too have it".



Physical Abilities
Ace Carries Curly Dadan
Ace's immense strength as a child.
Aside from the powers granted by the Devil Fruit he consumed, Ace possessed immense physical strength. Signs of his great physical potential were already evident at his early childhood, where he was able to beat some local thugs who spoke ill of his father "half to death", and was also shown sitting on top of a huge animal (possibly a bull) he killed with his staff, during his first meeting with Luffy. Also later on the same day he was shown to easily break a giant tree with ease. Ace was already very strong when he left his hometown, three years before Luffy did the same.

Ace demonstrated his strength during his battle with Blackbeard: he was able to take Blackbeard's punches, which were so powerful that the first made Ace cough up blood and the second nearly broke his neck, and retaliate. Van Augur noted that, as expected of the Whitebeard Pirates 2nd division commander, Ace's basic combat skills were quite formidable even without his Devil Fruit powers.

He fought equally with Jinbe in the past; they nearly killed each other in a fight that lasted for five days. Ace then survived a battle with Whitebeard that took place immediately after, showing immense stamina and durability. He was one of the few people to be able to take a "baptizing" in boiling water in Impel Down without flinching, which is considered an impressive feat.

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@bold 1st, Bringing up the feats of a 10 yo?

The baptism was also done by Crocodile and Luffy beat his butt too.
Luffy took BB's attacks as well and then proceeded to fight in the battle of the best.
Also, seriously do u really think that WB fought Ace seriously since afterwards he offered Ace an invitation onto his crew? :|
Physical Strength pt1 Luffy=Ace
Pt2 Luffy>>>Luffy that Arm wrestled Ace

son,ace at the age of 10 showed conquers haki at marine ford arc he said "you too have it".

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Also even Hancock has CoC, but just as Luffy from pt1 she couldn't use it at will. So there is no proof that Ace can use it at will or that he has any of the other forms of Haki

 

[I m an Ass]

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@bold 1st, Bringing up the feats of a 10 yo?

The baptism was also done by Crocodile and Luffy beat his but too.
Luffy took BB's attacks as well and then proceeded to fight in the battle of the best.
Also, seriously do u really think that WB fought Ace seriously since afterwards he offered Ace an invitation onto his crew? :|
Physical Strength pt1 Luffy=Ace
Pt2 Luffy>>>Luffy that Arm wrestled Ace

how long did that battle lasted and how long did ace and blackbeard lasted ...a lot longer right so ace probably took a lot more hits and took blackbeard most powerful attack + his own

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do you know how huge of an impact that is ?

lol armwrestling are for real ?
and the Barrel broke

 

[ANiMUS]

how long did that battle lasted and how long did ace and blackbeard lasted ...a lot longer right so ace probably took a lot more hits and took blackbeard most powerful attack + his own

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do you know how huge of an impact that is ?

During the battle of the Best Luffy faced Kizaru, Smoker, multiple high ranking officers, and Sengoku :| all of this while his body just recovered and him having no strength what so ever using only energy hormone which doesn't even repair any damage.

Sorry, but is durability all that u r aiming for? Where are the strength and speed feats?
Luffy that can outrun explosions and predict Ace's next attack is going to wait around for Ace to do Entei? Lol
Elephant Gatling can probably blast that thing to embers. XD

Also armwrestling is a display of physical strength so yeah armwrestling.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Lol no.

 

[I m an Ass]

During the battle of the Best Luffy faced Kizaru, Smoker, multiple high ranking officers, and Sengoku :| all of this while his body just recovered and him having no strength what so ever using only energy hormone which doesn't even repair any damage.

Sorry, but is durability all that u r aiming for? Where are the strength and speed feats?
Luffy that can outrun explosions and predict Ace's next attack is going to wait around for Ace to do Entei? Lol
Elephant Gatling can probably blast that thing to embers. XD

Also armwrestling is a display of physical strength so yeah armwrestling.

lol you know how dumb you sound right now ?
there is no proof that luffy is faster than ace whatsoever,you're using fanfiction right now
but lets give you that luffy has speed oke tell me kuma vs zoro ,how come that zoro could react to kuma speed,
Pad Ho , literally meaning "Pressure Cannon"): Kuma repels the air around him, sending a devastating shockwave toward his opponent at velocities that he claims to be near the speed of ligh zoro doged a lot of them is zoro ftl ? and Ace >zoro and tell why hasn't luffy shown the same impressive speed again ? because plot device