according to Hashirama fanbase logic

htmwall

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Kurama is still a living creature unlike MS EMS shurikens kunais

no offence but the MS,EMS rinnegan powers are instant cheat codes that the uchiha can get by crying over dead people,there's no need for high intellect or superior intelligence for these powers,only a butthurt moment and you'll get a new power-up,a power-up that can take anyone from fodder to OP immediately(lol obito),even a crow one-shotted itachi because he had an MS power.
unlike being a jinchuuriki it requires work and time to have kurama's power madara got it immediately by just having MS.
so naruto with kurama's power is a million times more legit than madara having it.
 

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Kurama and Naruto are 2 sides to the same coin.

Madara and Kurama are 2 different coins.

Naruto + Kurama = 1 body

Madara + Kurama = 2 bodies.

So don't try to insult, when you don't know how the logic works for power.

Yup, this is a terrible argument

Madara used kurama as a weapon, might as well take away hashi's scroll, or kakashi's eye

Wrong, Manipulation doesn't make the other person part of your power. Its called USING them not them being YOUR POWER. Big difference.

Naruto and 9-tails share 1 body, how the hell can you say its the samething?

It was 2 vs 1 against Hashirama. Whenever Naruto fights even if he uses Kurama its 1 vs 1.

And are you really gonna compare a eye and scroll to a living thing?
 
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Hashirama > Madara + Kurama right now. :)
 

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Using Kurama requires investing quite a bit of Chakra, unlike Naruto, who draws upon it relentlessly. Henceforth, Madara losing to Hashirama by a hair is a testament to his strength. This vastly inferior logic is pure idiocy, when we all know the difference is nearly negligible and can even be brushed aside.
 

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You can take out hashirama's scroll, and sword.. But you have to take madara's kurama and other weapons as well..
Hashirama seems on top off madara.
 
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