About Third Hokage vs Orochimaru....

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Ive seen alot of people say that Sarutobi winning the fight vs Orochimaru and Edo First/Second Hokage is not a feat, using the argumment that the Hokages were not at their full power, while overlooking the fact that Sarutobi wasn't at full power himself. Even if Sarutobi isn't the strongest hokage, this is still quite a feat. Sarutobi at maybe 20-30% power beating Tobirama and Hashirama at around 20% each aswell..I think this is a really big feat :win:
 

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Orochimaru was toying around, he had MANY chances to kill him, even Hiruzen stated so (When the battle first began, Orochimaru could've easily slit his throat, but didn't). Orochimaru with killing intent would utterly stomp.
 

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sarutobi had huge chakra reserve and flexibility maybe he cannot beat them with fight but he will make them all out of chakra then beat them!!!
 

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who said that Sarutobi won fight?:|:|
 

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Sarutobi actually lost that fight because he got sealed and Orochimaru continued to live.
 

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Orochimaru was toying around, he had MANY chances to kill him, even Hiruzen stated so (When the battle first began, Orochimaru could've easily slit his throat, but didn't). Orochimaru with killing intent would utterly stomp.

Agreed, i also think that Orochi would have killed old Hiruzen a lot faster if he was serious. But what i'm saying is that Old Hiruzen is basically the same, if not a bit weaker than 20% First/Second. So beating both of them at the same time is a big feat :)
 

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Here I thought orochimaru was the one alive after that fight
 

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Orochimaru was toying around, he had MANY chances to kill him, even Hiruzen stated so (When the battle first began, Orochimaru could've easily slit his throat, but didn't). Orochimaru with killing intent would utterly stomp.

You could see that Orochimaru was nearly crying at that moment . I'm pretty curious why he attacked Konoha .
 

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Sarutobi actually lost that fight because he got sealed and Orochimaru continued to live.

Ok, i dissagree. I think he won because he managed to stop Orochimaru's plan, and make him unable to use jutsu for like 3-4 years. He did what he wanted to do :D.
 

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You could see that Orochimaru was nearly crying at that moment . I'm pretty curious why he attacked Konoha .

He stated he had a yawn, but you do have a point. Hopefully it was the latter, and he's sinister to the core. We don't need anymore mushy villains, Kishimoto needs to step his game up.
 

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And he sealed off oro's arm which made Oro to run
 

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And he sealed off oro's arm which made Oro to run

And Orochimaru broke the RDS, took back his arms, and revived his previous Sensei which is now bound by his student's will. Hmmm, who's winning?
 

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He stated he had a yawn, but you do have a point. Hopefully it was the latter, and he's sinister to the core. We don't need anymore mushy villains, Kishimoto needs to step his game up.

Agreed . Although Kishi has done an incredibily good job with villains who want peace like Obito and Nagato , I think Oro needs to stay evil .
 

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who said that Sarutobi won fight?:|:|

Here I thought orochimaru was the one alive after that fight

Well, he was the last one standing, but i consider Sarutobi the winner because he accomplished his goal, which was sealing his arms (his goal at first was going for the kill, but he didnt have enough chakra because of old age)
 

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only Oro fanboys think Oro is much stronger than old Hiruzen.. if he would have been much stronger he would have won without any difficulty like Madara vs the gokage or Itachi vs Kakashi Deidara etc...

nice thread
 

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Agreed . Although Kishi has done an incredibily good job with villains who want peace like Obito and Nagato , I think Oro needs to stay evil .

Exactly, he even stated in the DB, Orochimaru was supposed to be evil incarnate. So, if he receives some lame sob story, i'm going to flip my ****.
 

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Exactly, he even stated in the DB, Orochimaru was supposed to be evil incarnate. So, if he receives some lame sob story, i'm going to flip my ****.

I think it would be cool if Oro has been around a lot longer then we think..maybe it really was Oro in Hashis flashback?? :win:
 

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And Orochimaru broke the RDS, took back his arms, and revived his previous Sensei which is now bound by his student's will. Hmmm, who's winning?

After 500 chapters later Lol
 

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only Oro fanboys think Oro is much stronger than old Hiruzen.. if he would have been much stronger he would have won without any difficulty like Madara vs the gokage or Itachi vs Kakashi Deidara etc...

nice thread

Although i think Oro was stronger than Sarutobi at that time, he wasn't taking the fight seriously at first. But the same can be said for Sarutobi sense he was hesitating. I do agree that the power gap between them wasn't as big as some people make it out to be :D
 
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