about Naruto KCM tanking moon cutter

Hakke

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Dec 17, 2016
Messages
2,548
Reaction score
153
can anyone just explain this to me ?

we see here Naruto KCM tanking this
[video=youtube;GDmaJOKt-us]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDmaJOKt-us[/video]

(watch from 1:33:25 to 1:33:50)

he have just tanked this
You must be registered for see images
which is capable of doing this
You must be registered for see images

yet when he was in a stronger mode...
You must be registered for see images

he was stabbed by a normal Katana :|

WTF ,so he resisted an attack that is capable of slicing the moon in a half but he was stabbed by normal blade ?!!!

can anyone give me a logical explanation to this ?

or a theory
 
Last edited:

Madarauchiwa

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
2,095
Reaction score
160
kishi is a bad writer with many inconsistencies in his manga. we stuck around because of nostalgia not good writing. thats your logical explanation
 

Hakke

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Dec 17, 2016
Messages
2,548
Reaction score
153
I think that the Last version Naruto was stronger than the Gaiden version Naruto, what do you think ?
 

Umari Senju

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Aug 30, 2012
Messages
12,535
Reaction score
1,192
Like Tobirama told Hashirama during their chat in the Hokage mansion when Tobirama didn't Sense Madara listening in at the window:

Naruto isn't constantly kneading chakra. Those tanking feats Naruto displayed he was ready to take a hit from as he was in the midst of battle.

In Gaiden he was on the sideline protecting the kids while Sasuke fought. Both were unaware of Shin's Sharingan ability and thus it slipped past his cloak and into his gut.
 

Hakke

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Dec 17, 2016
Messages
2,548
Reaction score
153
Like Tobirama told Hashirama during their chat in the Hokage mansion when Tobirama didn't Sense Madara listening in at the window:

Naruto isn't constantly kneading chakra. Those tanking feats Naruto displayed he was ready to take a hit from as he was in the midst of battle.

In Gaiden he was on the sideline protecting the kids while Sasuke fought. Both were unaware of Shin's Sharingan ability and thus it slipped past his cloak and into his gut.

okay but still , Toneri's jutsu was able to slice a WHOLE MOON, yet it couldn't slice Naruto or even damaging him and he was in KCM , but a normal katana was able to past through his BSM cloak :|

I get your point about "he wasn't ready to tank" , but doesn't that mean that literally any fodder Ninja is able to damage Naruto if he take him by surprise ?
 
Last edited:

Blackzoro

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 24, 2015
Messages
2,626
Reaction score
118
Inconsistency. Or like the guy above said it might be becuz he wasn't on his guard was mostly concerned with the kids proctection. The Last he was in battle mode and was ready that's the way I see it. That being said I agree he was most likely stronger in the Last compared to Gaiden since he has no feats and was awful. There's no way a guy who took Chidori in the face unscathed then tanked that moon cutter would be easily pierced by that and especially since Kusanagi couldn't pierce 4th tails and a higher form with durability gets pierced like that smh.
 

SenseiSama

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Apr 17, 2015
Messages
16,168
Reaction score
926
Isn't it obvious ? Gaiden was plot restriction at its finest. Toneri is a fake Tenseigan user which makes his chakra and power on the same level as JJ Obito at the very most, Naruto had the body to tank Rikudou Sasuke's chidori so Toneri's attacks shouldn't do shit to him.
 

NextGenNinja

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 11, 2014
Messages
4,665
Reaction score
349
Just a nitpick but that seemed to be rikudou KCSM, not kcm. Anyways, that seems to be an inconsistency. Since a much weaker form of naruto managed to tank a kusanagi stab from orochimaru.
 

gerizzyYMcrew

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Sep 27, 2015
Messages
3,627
Reaction score
193
kishi is a bad writer with many inconsistencies in his manga. we stuck around because of nostalgia not good writing. thats your logical explanation

definitely not a bad writer...but he is inconsistent sometimes
 

Hakke

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Dec 17, 2016
Messages
2,548
Reaction score
153
Isn't it obvious ? Gaiden was plot restriction at its finest. Toneri is a fake Tenseigan user which makes his chakra and power on the same level as JJ Obito at the very most, Naruto had the body to tank Rikudou Sasuke's chidori so Toneri's attacks shouldn't do shit to him.

Toneri's attack was able to slice a WHOLE MOON , and it didn't damage Naruto , yet was stabbed by a katana :|
 

To Whatever

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Mar 27, 2013
Messages
18,010
Reaction score
1,512
Isn't it obvious ? Gaiden was plot restriction at its finest. Toneri is a fake Tenseigan user which makes his chakra and power on the same level as JJ Obito at the very most, Naruto had the body to tank Rikudou Sasuke's chidori so Toneri's attacks shouldn't do shit to him.

JJ Obito can't one shot the entire planet using the moon. If toneri wasnt a blind and actually trained he'd be ****in some shit up.
 

SenseiSama

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Apr 17, 2015
Messages
16,168
Reaction score
926
Toneri's attack was able to slice a WHOLE MOON , and it didn't damage Naruto , yet was stabbed by a katana :|

And so ? Doesn't change the fact Naruto's chakra quality is LEVELS above what Toneri has, JJ Obito had the chakra reserves to perform similar level of feats and yet he couldn't land a fatal hit on Naruto.

Furthermore, the moon was already hollow due to losing the CT core Hagoromo made so cutting it was not much of a problem. And don't confuse cutting the moon with cutting a planet, far from the same thing.
 

SenseiSama

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Apr 17, 2015
Messages
16,168
Reaction score
926
JJ Obito can't one shot the entire planet using the moon. If toneri wasnt a blind and actually trained he'd be ****in some shit up.

1. Toneri wasn't blind when he had Tenseigan

2. Toneri is a fake Tenseigan user

Toneri was never meant to wield Hamura's power, a Hyuga prodigy was. He's essentially the Hyuga version of JJ Obito hence why he doesn't have the chakra to hurt Naruto who's an Ashura incarnate with Hagoromo's body and the power of the bijuu.

And regarding Obito not being able to do the same thing, there's this weapon called Nunoboku sword. So yes he can perform the same feats especially since having the Juubi's power and Hashi cells is pretty much superior to just having Hamura's chakra.
 

To Whatever

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Mar 27, 2013
Messages
18,010
Reaction score
1,512
1. Toneri wasn't blind when he had Tenseigan

2. Toneri is a fake Tenseigan user

Toneri was never meant to wield Hamura's power, a Hyuga prodigy was. He's essentially the Hyuga version of JJ Obito hence why he doesn't have the chakra to hurt Naruto who's an Ashura incarnate with Hagoromo's body and the power of the bijuu.

And regarding Obito not being able to do the same thing, there's this weapon called Nunoboku sword. So yes he can perform the same feats especially since having the Juubi's power and Hashi cells is pretty much superior to just having Hamura's chakra.

1. Toneri has been blind longer than he's had eyes.

2. Fake or not he lacks skill and tact to use it.


Nunoboku sword's length isn't long enough to cut through the moon, much less the earth. Keep in mind what the sword is made out of and it's maximum range.

The tenseigan is capable of dislodging the fucking moon out of orbit and slice through it. And that's with a false user.
 
Top