About moderators and the way some threads end.

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I'm not sure what section to actually post this in, but this one seemed to me the most adequate.

The topic of this thread will concern moderators and how they handle closing threads at times.
When I say 'at times' I mean not always and not everyone(in my experience).

Now, it isn't my intention to, with this thread, create any kind dislike towards any mod whatsoever, and had it concerned only one mod only I would have gone to a Gmod or Admin, as recommended by the staff members.
I wish with what I'm going to address only to point out certain 'behaviour' that I have taken notice of lately, before that also if I remember correctly.

Yes, for my observation to be creditable, there will need to be proof in form of links to threads of the sort I'm about to discuss, however I trust the memory of most mods not to be like that which you would usually(as compared to our youthful days) find with an elderly(I'm talking about senility, no offence). I also bet my left butt-cheek on that other members notice this and can provide own experience of it.

Cutting it short:

More and more do mine eyes sweep over, when visited, closed threads in which you would often also notice how the last post was made by a mod.

Naturally, mods are the ones whom do that(and premium members with their own threads I believe, I may be wrong, but this is about the ones mods close).
Doing so in this section, often it comes along with a nice professional explanation or opinion, no problem, it's appreciated, asked for even in some threads. . . BUT!

Yes. But!
What irks me to the very bone is this: Mods closing threads, and especially debate threads(though even happening elsewhere), WHILST leaving their own personal input on the subject/topic!

I mean, you're there to close the thread are you not?

I'll elaborate:

Closing a thread in this section with your input, is usually done professionally, with their occasional slips(if I may).
This, however, concerns debate threads more than any other, though the other threads are not to be overshadowed by this example. And yes, this doesn't happen eeeeveeery time and so on but,

If you want to take part of a debate, then do so by actually debating, not posting your opinion/argument then closing the thread immediately after, not giving others chance to retort and keep what was meant to be kept from the very beginning, a debate going.

Sure, sometimes you must close the thread as it goes overboard and people are doing things worthy of infraction points, even remind people of the rules of NB. But when you do, do that and just that, it is a plea of mine, because as I view it; when you don't do just that, you're practically abusing the power invested with you by the admins.
By this I mean; using it unfairly to your advantage. And even if this isn't meant, that is how I perceive it.

If you feel like leaving your own personal input, do so in a decent way at least, giving us other members a chance to reply(not that you never do this), otherwise you'll seem so estranged from us, I find that unfortunate.

I wrote all this to improve forum experience, not restrict or make worse. Please see my intention in this.

Now, I'd like it if, and that is if, someone decides to share their own experience of said phenomena in this thread, KEEP IT CLEAN AND DECENT.



Important: If the topic and what you read makes your blood boil, check this out to calm yourself(closing your eyes might improve the experience):
 
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ya it irks me when a mod closes a thread that doesn't violate the rules also the fact it takes them five minutes to do that but it can take up to two hours to close a thread where a guy is posting porno pics and mutilated bodies pics

priorities mods
 

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ya it irks me when a mod closes a thread that doesn't violate the rules also the fact it takes them five minutes to do that but it can take up to two hours to close a thread where a guy is posting porno pics and mutilated bodies pics

priorities mods
That is not quite what I'm trying to get at, but sure, that probably irks most as well.
 

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I see what you're saying, that if a moderator adds an opinion, regular members should have the right to reply to the moderators post.

But maybe the moderator closed the thread because members were flaming and believe their input would end the disagreement? If you don't think there was flames, the best thing to do would be to VM the moderator and ask why. If they understand that the discussion was civilised, they'd be inclined to open the thread.
 
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as much as i agree and support this post, i'm still going to say its pretty pointless to make. these self thought "gods" of this forum do what they want no matter what and then cry and throw out infractions/bans when you call them out on it. trust me i get enough of them even when i don't even call out mods by name.

best thing you can do is not care. they won't show it but they hate it when you don't care about pointless infractions/bans they give you. its ridiculous that they can act the part they claim not to be and then "punish" for calling them out on it but remember that in reality, it doesn't matter. whatever they do has no effect whatsoever in life.

hell i'll probably get more infractions for this but just do what i do and ignore it bro :)
 
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I understand exactly where you are coming from and i hope whoever is in charge of this website corrects them or reminds mods and admins to remember exactly where there authority lies and make sure they stop stepping over the boundries of said duty.There actions are pathetic and they wonder why they receive little to no respect.It takes two to tango my fellow admins by thrusting your post on us and shutting down threads on whim leaves little to no room for us to do so.Respect is a two way street by no means should you think even for a second that our respect should be indefinite.
 
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I see what you're saying, that if a moderator adds an opinion, regular members should have the right to reply to the moderators post.

But maybe the moderator closed the thread because members were flaming and believe their input would end the disagreement? If you don't think there was flames, the best thing to do would be to VM the moderator and ask why. If they understand that the discussion was civilised, they'd be inclined to open the thread.
This is very true, He's got a point. But I could see why people would get upset if a Mod would post his opinion and then proceed to close the thread because he/she thinks they're right and nobody else needs to comment. I personally haven't seen it. ( I'm newer Here) But I sure hope I never have to. But again, if it's a flamming/Bar fight thread then they should close it if it gets way too out of hand.
 

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I agree completely.
Sometimes Mods will respond to members in a rude manner and then close the thread. Tsuchi or whatever her/his name (?) is now did that to me once and what she/he said wasn't even true. It doesn't bother me but I don't think that's a professional way to close a thread, especially since the reply only had 1 sentence relevant to the thread and no where did it explain why it was closed. [most of it was just flaming me LOL xd)
 
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I see what you're saying, that if a moderator adds an opinion, regular members should have the right to reply to the moderators post.

But maybe the moderator closed the thread because members were flaming and believe their input would end the disagreement? If you don't think there was flames, the best thing to do would be to VM the moderator and ask why. If they understand that the discussion was civilised, they'd be inclined to open the thread.
I covered that point. Threads that end up being flame wars needs to be closed, and it is often those threads that get closed and are put to this treatment, those and spam threads I'd say.
But when closing, just closing should do, not with the addition of something of arguable nature.
 

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as much as i agree and support this post, i'm still going to say its pretty pointless to make. these self thought "gods" of this forum do what they want no matter what and then cry and throw out infractions/bans when you call them out on it. trust me i get enough of them even when i don't even call out mods by name.

best thing you can do is not care. they won't show it but they hate it when you don't care about pointless infractions/bans they give you. its ridiculous that they can act the part they claim not to be and then "punish" for calling them out on it but remember that in reality, it doesn't matter. whatever they do has no effect whatsoever.

hell i'll probably get more infractions for this but just do what i do and ignore it bro :)
I'm not brown-nosing the staff or anything.

But without the staff handing out infractions, this forum would be a disaster. Go to 4chan if you want all hell to break loose.
 

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as much as i agree and support this post, i'm still going to say its pretty pointless to make. these self thought "gods" of this forum do what they want no matter what and then cry and throw out infractions/bans when you call them out on it. trust me i get enough of them even when i don't even call out mods by name.

best thing you can do is not care. they won't show it but they hate it when you don't care about pointless infractions/bans they give you. its ridiculous that they can act the part they claim not to be and then "punish" for calling them out on it but remember that in reality, it doesn't matter. whatever they do has no effect whatsoever in life.

hell i'll probably get more infractions for this but just do what i do and ignore it bro :)
I will put my trust to the mods on this one anyway, I'm sure they'll find it in their hearts to take this seriously somehow ;D

Scorps is browsing this thread so let's get his opinion on the matter
That would really help.
 

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I see what you're saying, that if a moderator adds an opinion, regular members should have the right to reply to the moderators post.

But maybe the moderator closed the thread because members were flaming and believe their input would end the disagreement? If you don't think there was flames, the best thing to do would be to VM the moderator and ask why. If they understand that the discussion was civilised, they'd be inclined to open the thread.
Wait I didn't know they can re open a thread
 

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I'm going to leave the sum of most of what needs to be said about the issue on the hands of a Global Moderator since I personally feel its more adequate. However, had you wanted to express your point in a more viable way, this thread wouldn't have been made. You know, from first hand experience as I've seen you in the forum for quite some time, that threads giving "inputs" to the work Mods do will not attract people with viable inputs. It will only attract people that will reply some idiotic answer like this:


ya it irks me when a mod closes a thread that doesn't violate the rules also the fact it takes them five minutes to do that but it can take up to two hours to close a thread where a guy is posting porno pics and mutilated bodies pics

priorities mods
These types of posts only showcases why such matters shouldn't be discussed in threads. It ends up in staff bashing which always ends up in infractions, bans and unnecessary drama.

The correct approach could have been 1 of 3 viable ones:

-talk to the mod who you see doing that and express your opinion

-talk to the global moderators in pm, expressing your point on the issue

-talk to an admin, mainly Zise or Rei as they are in charge of the overall forum and express your issue.



Such a thread will only end up in unsavory experiences for some members that are attracted to such topics...
 

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I'm going to leave the sum of most of what needs to be said about the issue on the hands of a Global Moderator since I personally feel its more adequate. However, had you wanted to express your point in a more viable way, this thread wouldn't have been made. You know, from first hand experience as I've seen you in the forum for quite some time, that threads giving "inputs" to the work Mods do will not attract people with viable inputs. It will only attract people that will reply some idiotic answer like this:




These types of posts only showcases why such matters shouldn't be discussed in threads. It ends up in staff bashing which always ends up in infractions, bans and unnecessary drama.

The correct approach could have been 1 of 3 viable ones:

-talk to the mod who you see doing that and express your opinion

-talk to the global moderators in pm, expressing your point on the issue

-talk to an admin, mainly Zise or Rei as they are in charge of the overall forum and express your issue.



Such a thread will only end up in unsavory experiences for some members that are attracted to such topics...
so you just insulted me because you know i was correct on the matter?

lead by example right?
 
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