ya it irks me when a mod closes a thread that doesn't violate the rules also the fact it takes them five minutes to do that but it can take up to two hours to close a thread where a guy is posting porno pics and mutilated bodies pics
priorities mods
For starters that has absolutely nothing to do with this matter, hence showing an attitude that's very common on NB namely interpreting a thread in a wrong way, a way that suits the person in question a lot better and then makes a post that can only cause nothing else but trouble, eventually resulting in a thread getting completely derailed, potentially being closed and removed so that he then can stick it all on the mods. Secondly it's BS what you say. Apparently you are under the very unreasonable impression that when someone posts something like porn all the mods instantly are notified, that when we became a mod electronic chips were implanted in our brains that sent electric shocks whenever we decide to ignore the notification, but still we dare to ignore it because we are bad. On purpose we let NB get defiled by porn. But we are daily closing threads just for the fun of closing threads even if there was no reason for... yeah somehow you know exactly everything about being a mod on NB, even though you have never been one here. I mean I only need to visit the Naruto Discussion section or the Report section for a second and I can start moving/closing/merging/deleting posts/threads for the next 30 minutes. If you start counting everything all mods did in a timespan of 24 hours, we are talking about stuff in the triple digits...and somehow you know exactly what those all those moderating actions were and how long they took.
Logically you know diddly squat about that, still you act like you do. You just abused this thread to talk bad about mods, your post has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, which is aimed specifically at the apparent action of some mods closing threads but making posts that could be considered posts that participate in the thread, but by closing the thread making it impossible for people to respond to it and not about mods unfairly closing normal threads and ignoring trolling threads. It had nothing to do with that, still you decided from the get-go to make a post not about the thread's topic and can only lead to trouble.
as much as i agree and support this post, i'm still going to say its pretty pointless to make. these self thought "gods" of this forum do what they want no matter what and then cry and throw out infractions/bans when you call them out on it. trust me i get enough of them even when i don't even call out mods by name.
best thing you can do is not care. they won't show it but they hate it when you don't care about pointless infractions/bans they give you. its ridiculous that they can act the part they claim not to be and then "punish" for calling them out on it but remember that in reality, it doesn't matter. whatever they do has no effect whatsoever in life.
hell i'll probably get more infractions for this but just do what i do and ignore it bro
Example number 2 of a person who is abusing this thread to talk bad about the staff based on a complete disillusional image of a mod they themselves created just so that it would suit themselves, but in fact doesn't even come close to the reality. We are no gods neither did we ever consider us as such, you just made us appear like that in your eyes so that it would be easier for you to bash us. Personally I see myself more as a garbage man. Feel free to make me the garbage man god if you still going to keep those false, biased images alive, but I'm never going to see myself like that.
I mean most mods hate it to give infractions, me in specific. Somehow you know exactly how a mod feels when infracting. I, and most other mods, try to avoid it as much as possible as it' simply a pain. The ratio of the amount of infractions I could have given and the infractions I actually gave would be something between 7-10 to 1. From the moment we see infractions don't work, we don't give them anymore, we simply ban then. We are not mad when we see an infraction didn't work, we are just sad as that means we have to start banning as there is no other option left. After that they come back on alts, bash the mods claiming they're corrupt and unfair, you probably know the drill. They get banned again, troll the forums, eventually suggest that they will stop trolling if that account gets unbanned, we still ban it, they keep trolling on alts etcetera etcetera...they clearly didn't care about their infractions, they just waste their lives in making new email addresses and accounts to troll that get banned in a fraction of the time it took to make the account, its threads and its posts ~_~
For crying out loud. Feel free to hate us, but do us all a favor and keep your ignorant comments to yourself. I'm never going to claim that every action every mod has ever taken was correct, but I do know that most the troubles that occurred between the staff and members were the cause of the members, not the staff. These two posts clearly show that. You do not take responsibility for your actions nor your own behavior, acting all tough. You just push everything on the mods simply because it's easier.
I understand exactly where you are coming from and i hope whoever is in charge of this website corrects them or reminds mods and admins to remember exactly where there authority lies and make sure they stop stepping over the boundries of said duty.There actions are pathetic and they wonder why they receive little to no respect.It takes two to tango my fellow admins by thrusting your post on us and shutting down threads on whim leaves little to no room for us to do so.Respect is a two way street by no means should you think even for a second that our respect should be indefinite.
That's a comment that applies more on the members themselves than mods. Hell of a lot of members should realize of realize again where their boundaries are and what their duties are. But in the end people find it just easier to always stick it on the mods and rarely they realize that what they are saying is actually extremely ridiculous and irrational. If the members would know their boundaries and duties, then hypothetically speaking we, mods, would have nothing much to do. It would be paradise as it remains a fact that a mod always takes action in reaction of the actions of a member. If the members would do everything right, it would be fantastic for us as we could just browse the forums and take part in discussions like anyone else. We wouldn't have to do much.
It indeed takes two to tango, respect indeed goes both ways. However first you give respect to the mods, then we give it back. You clearly show no respect, so why would you think we would respect you? Don't forget we don't get anything to be a mod, but we do work. A mod that doesn't work is always going to be demodded. So you can be sure most mods indeed work hard. It can't be called anything but arrogance that you expect that people first respect you for doing nothing and then you might consider respecting them even though they are the once who are working hard? You first respect us, not necessarily as a person, but in the least in the function of being a mod. If you don't do that, don't complain that you're forever alone with your tango. Our respect is indeed not indefinite, so why are you expecting it is?
I agree completely.
Sometimes Mods will respond to members in a rude manner and then close the thread. Tsuchi or whatever her/his name (?) is now did that to me once and what she/he said wasn't even true. It doesn't bother me but I don't think that's a professional way to close a thread, especially since the reply only had 1 sentence relevant to the thread and no where did it explain why it was closed. [most of it was just flaming me LOL xd)
And members always reply nicely, especially the posts in this thread were so tearjerking it almost made it look like I pissed my pants of joy or jizzed them of excitement or it just stopped functioning or whatever.
Wait I didn't know they can re open a thread
Open, close, remove, merge, delete, edit, even changing the owner. Whatever floats your boat.
i have no problem with infractions/bans being handed out when needed. but some of them act like kids and then hide behind that "no talking shit about mod/admin rule". i didn't know i was in the "Cuba" section of the internet where the "leaders" can do what they want and i can't say a thing about it. U_U
And most of the members act immature, which becomes pretty obvious when you look at most posts in this thread. It was to address one specific issue. If people already read the first, they interpreted it in such a way so that they could bash the staff. Are you going to say that's mature then?
For some reason people keep throwing the "freedom of speech", "I have the right to say my opinion", "have the right to do what I want" etc. stuff continuously around. If you think that that means you can say or do whatever you want whenever you want, you're a naive child.
According to the posts in this thread, which in fact has not so much to do with the topic at hand, members should be allowed to say what they want, but claim "mods oppress us". But those same members then complain whenever a mod says something that's even slightly insulting, saying a mod is not allowed to say such things. Members who do nothing for NB, who are just lazy and only complain and judge the persons who are working hard...sounds fair, doesn't it. We have to shut up and work, you can sit back and complain as complain you will, no matter what kind of action we will do. Whether it be for a thread we didn't close or closed, whether we replied somewhere or didn't reply. There's hell of a difference between actually being in the "Cuba" section and intentionally creating a non-existing "Cuba" section yourself and go hang around there.
Don't say things in the nature of "freedom of speech" so lightly as most of you people have no idea how far the implications of the idea behind it reach. It doesn't mean that you just can say whatever you want, it's always within certain boundaries and when you start bashing the mods, calling it your "opinion", but based on lies and utter BS then yes it's perfectly legit for us to punish you for it as similar things happen in the real world. So even your own logic works against you.
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And finally I arrived at what this thread was actually about, but as usual because people just abuse these opportunities to bash the staff and if I don't reply to them, then they say mods are scared. When we do reply then they complain about what we said. I still haven't figured out which one is now more annoying. And what I have to say about this matter is quite simply: I haven't the foggiest what you are talking about. Don't get me wrong, I understand perfectly what you are talking about and what you are saying, however this is something on a micro-level, tied completely to each individual case.
There isn't anyone in the staff who knows exactly what each other mod has done exactly. If I close 10 threads, there is no one in the staff who is going to know that I closed 10 threads. Every mod has his or her own ways of doing things. I rarely post in the threads I close as it's simply a waste of time as I close a lot of threads and when I reply then you can be certain people are going to complain about it on my profile and/or even -rep me for it. A while back I got -repped just because I merged several threads that were all about the exact same topic, most of them even had the same title, and then someone -reps me saying "you're wrong" only in a civil way. That's not even rational anymore. But then other mods actually do it often. On top of that not only do you need to take into consideration each individual mod, but each time that mod did that as it's very debatable whether all those posts are really what you claim them to be. You say that there are quite a lot of examples, the only thing you have are those as this is something that can barely be discussed in a discussion that encompasses it all. It's too variated for that as what you consider the mod participating in the debate, I could easily consider as him just ending it. Case closed. I often see people royally screwing things up so much you just need to say something about it, but if you leave it open they will just continue. There is someone on NB who claims to have 'beaten' me once in an argument. I couldn't even remember ever going into an argument with that person. Apparently it appeared I once said something in a thread and never went back to it, but he replied on my post. When I make a post and don't come back, you can quite certain nothing else had to be said. A lot of people think they are always right, even in confrontation with facts, and makes us close the thread as otherwise they don't stop.
Long story short this matter depends on each individual post made by an individual mod and can't be discussed in an overall way, especially when you also need to take the topic into consideration, the nature of the discussion is very important too. But above all I really don't see an important issue here. Even assuming there are mods that do it, it's the first time I heard a complaint about it in such a way. In the end this is really something minor, especially when I doubt that most of those discussions where of a high or even moderate lvl. This is pulled out of proportion.
In fact this thread forms and excellent example. I started making this post when there were only 23 posts in this thread, but by now they have told me it has been derailing even further, even more mod bashing by a bunch of immature, naive, ignorant and arrogant brats who just want to bash the staff. I have no other option than closing this thread as a lot of people who posted here have shown not being able to have a rational discussion. You could see this as me taking part in this discussion, but closing it and thus in fact one of those examples you mentioned. Well then I say I wasn't participating in the nature of you say something, I reply, then you reply etc. but I was simply ending all this madness by making an analysis about how things now exactly really are, not an opinion.
Everything I wrote above me is true. Almost all those posts of people who bashed and insulted the mods are wrong. They created some kind of a disillusional image of the mods and then start bashing them based on that image, a false image as it remains a solid fact none of the people who I quoted above has ever been a member of the NB staff. So they have absolutely no clue how it is to be a mod on NB (often they say that they were mods on other forums, but so have I and each forum is different). So they talk about things they have no knowledge about whatsoever. I, and the other mods, on the other hand have been members. We all registered the same way as everyone who posted in this thread, so we know how it is to be a member. We simply know it better than them as they haven't a clue about the mods, they made everything up themselves. I mean right now they used this thread, a thread with a topic that in theory was not about mod bashing or complaining about mod, into a mod bashing feast. That's the result of them having lack of knowledge.
I, who has that knowledge, therefor can give a much more accurate assessment of the situation. Even if you then still are going to consider this as an "opinion", I'm a global mod. That doesn't mean I'm always correct, but likewise it gives my posts automatically a higher authority and that's just common sense. When you ask a historical question, logically the reply of a historian is going to have more weight than the one of someone else. Then you need to add the fact that as mods we know how it is to be both a mod and a member, making my analysis as far as it is possible the truth, at least a truth with a solid foundation and not some half-baked, biased comment about an immature member who can't hack it when he doesn't get his way.
This post of mine wasn't to participate in this discussion, it was to end it. It's the plug of this discussion. UchihaBrat, I don't blame you for making this thread nor am I angry. But I hope that you now understand that even if there are on occasions mods do what you just said, you understand why they do it when you look at what the majority of the people who posted here did to your thread. It's not nice, I know, however if someone keeps saying the world is flat, well yeah then the mod can't do much other than closing it to finally end it saying the world is not flat.
Highly likely when I wake up next morning the excrement is going to be again everywhere on me for just making this post. Screaming and whining it's insulting and blablabla, still it remains how I said it. I mean it's actually quite funny to see that people create false images of the staff by themselves and then bash that image, trying to act tough. I mean if someone claims I think I'm a god, while I think, if anything, I'm a garbage man or a toilet, well it speaks for itself. After all I have to clean up their filth and when I do I get some free of charge additional crap, which I will undoubtedly receive next morning.
Being a mod is such a thrill ~_~
