About EMS

[Liquid Snake]

And what of it proves that only Indra's incarnations can possess EMS? I'll give you a hint - if you've never seen me doing a flip, does it necessarily mean that I can't flip? :lol Read some literature about logic, dude. You have some maaaajor flows in your reasoning. Besides, read something about punctuation rules in English - it's really hard to read your posts the way you write them.

Only indras reincarnates had all other uchihas didn't unlock it and even madara stated it was something other than blood that linked him and sasuke because they both had straight tomoe . No other uchihas was successful so whatever ur talking about is just assuming

 

[Mari Makinami]

Only indras reincarnates had all other uchihas didn't unlock it and even madara stated it was something other than blood that linked him and sasuke because they both had straight tomoe . No other uchihas was successful so whatever ur talking about is just assuming

Nope, it's quite the opposite. You're assuming that none of the other Uchiha can awaken EMS only because it's not been shown in the manga. You clearly didn't get the simple analogy I gave you there: if you haven't seen, for example, Naruto eating a burger in the manga, does it mean that he can't do that? No, because because any human can, according to the information we have on the matter.

The requirements stated in the manga (the information we have on this matter) for aquiring EMS are pretty clear, and there is no mentioning about the necessity of being Indra's incarnation to do so what so ever. Therefore it is your assumption that it's a requirement too, an assumption based on the fact that we simply haven't seen something, hence it's absolutely illogical and false. That's why I called it fanfic, which it is

 

[Liquid Snake]

Nope, it's quite the opposite. You're assuming that none of the other Uchiha can awaken EMS only because it's not been shown in the manga. You clearly didn't get the simple analogy I gave you there: if you haven't seen, for example, Naruto eating a burger in the manga, does it mean that he can't do that? No, because because any human can, according to the information we have on the matter.

The requirements stated in the manga (the information we have on this matter) for aquiring EMS are pretty clear, and there is no mentioning about the necessity of being Indra's incarnation to do so what so ever. Therefore it is your assumption that it's a requirement too, an assumption based on the fact that we simply haven't seen something, hence it's absolutely illogical and false. That's why I called it fanfic, which it is

I know what ur saying guy and I'm saying they can't do it because it's a manga not basing on real life . So just because no other senju showed wood release doesn't mean they can't use it huh . And we're aren't talking about simple things like eating we're talking about complex things as DNA transfers and stuff many uchihas used izanagi which requires ms and took another uchihas ms and just replinished an eye no ems was created u have to have straight tomoe and get a uchiha with circular tomoe and only indras reincarnate had straight tomoe simple and I'm going by what's in the manga only Indra and his reincarnates awakened ems it's YOUR ASSUMPTION that any other uchiha can unlock it when none have other than Indra madara and sasuke

 

[SatanicGod]

EMS is Indra's power, transmigrants don't have Rikudou chakra which is a variant of Senjutsu and as a result their body can't handle the potency of Mangekyo chakra like the child of a JuubiJin would.

Madara and Sasuke were the only ones to awake Indra's power because they were the only transmigrants in Uchiha history to have a sibling with equal eye power. Madara and Izuna were stated to be equals, Itachi and Sasuke both shared Amaterasu and unlocked Susano'o.

What's interesting is that Itachi had the stronger genjutsu while Sasuke had stronger ninjutsu, but both of them shared Amaterasu which was implied to be Indra's technique. In addition, when Sasuke transplanted Itachi's eyes he stated he could feel Itachi's power growing.

From what it seems transmigrants are born with half of Indra's potential and need the other half from a sibling with equal dojutsu ability and strength due to their lack of strong body and Rikudou chakra. It also might be possible that the siblings themselves could awaken EMS.

Madara had many brothers though, Izuna just happened to survive long enough to gain MS

 

[SatanicGod]

I know what ur saying guy and I'm saying they can't do it because it's a manga not basing on real life . So just because no other senju showed wood release doesn't mean they can't use it huh . And we're aren't talking about simple things like eating we're talking about complex things as DNA transfers and stuff many uchihas used izanagi which requires ms and took another uchihas ms and just replinished an eye no ems was created u have to have straight tomoe and get a uchiha with circular tomoe and only indras reincarnate had straight tomoe simple and I'm going by what's in the manga only Indra and his reincarnates awakened ems it's YOUR ASSUMPTION that any other uchiha can unlock it when none have other than Indra madara and sasuke

Izanagi doesn't require MS, unless you honestly mean to say that every single eye on Danzo's arm has MS

 

[SenseiSama]

The problem is lets say had Sasuke not awaken Mangekyou sharingan, would Sasuke even have EMS by getting Itachi eyes? That right there is my point.

I know its possible that only Indra transmigrant are the only ones to gain EMS, but its possible also that both brothers needs to have Mangekyou sharingan awaken to have EMS the both of them.

He wouldn't, MS is needed like EMS is required for Rinnegan. And the sibling must also have MS because the chakra required to unlock EMS must be as potent as Senjutsu. I mention "senjutsu" because Sasuke's chakra was compared to CS level 2 after awakening MS, and Indra had Rikudou chakra which is a variant of Senjutsu.

 

[Liquid Snake]

Izanagi doesn't require MS, unless you honestly mean to say that every single eye on Danzo's arm has MS

U are correct but danzo had multiple eyes and hashi cells he was very much powered up but I admit being wrong there

 

[Mari Makinami]

I know what ur saying guy and I'm saying they can't do it because it's a manga not basing on real life .

Huh? You're not making any sense here.

So just because no other senju showed wood release doesn't mean they can't use it huh .

You can't use Wood Release as a comparison here. There are no information in the manga on how Wood Release is being awakened, no requirements stated. For EMS, the requirements are pretty clear.

And we're aren't talking about simple things like eating we're talking about complex things as DNA transfers

What's the difference, though? You're still unable to use simple logic, it works for any things regardless of them being complex or simple, since we're looking at them in general.

many uchihas used izanagi which requires ms

True

and took another uchihas ms

That's fanfic, manga scans plx

and just replinished an eye no ems was created

Fanfic, too, unless you provide the scans

u have to have straight tomoe and get a uchiha with circular tomoe

That's all interesting fanfiction, but can you please provide the manga scans for your points I've quoted above, along with the scan that's stating that these are the requirements for awakening the EMS?

and only indras reincarnate had straight tomoe simple and I'm going by what's in the manga only Indra and his reincarnates awakened ems

Yet again you're unable to grasp the simple fact: just because we've not seen anyone trying it in the manga doesn't mean they can't. And you have yet to prove that they tried, because they didn't. Not in the manga at least.

it's YOUR ASSUMPTION that any other uchiha can unlock it when none have other than Indra madara and sasuke

Not really, the manga states that any Uchiha can do that. And it's your assumption based on your fanfic/theory that they can't, nothing more.

What else can I add? Try gathering the manga scans to prove your points. Until then, you're not to be taken serious with your fantasies. I will wait for the constructive reply from you, supported with manga evidence, until then I won't reply again, since for now it seems like a waste of my time on a guy who can't into logic and who's trying to make up manga facts.

 

[Berner]

lol this again.
Keep in mind MS is rare. Only 6-7 confirmed MS users. Not a lot of opportunities to gain ems over the years. As far as we know Madara and Izuna were first after Indra. So what Itachi said was correct. Swaping MS eyes between clansmen will give your EMS. Which was why Itachi was confident either him or sasuke could achieve ems

this right here