abortion your thoughts on it.

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that makes sense, but how can you compare orphans to aborted kids? at least they're alive. id rather be an orphan than an aborted kid, cuz at least i can enjoy all the things in life to enjoy
Well what I meant was that people worry about a life that isn't born yet but altogether ignore the life that is already here and in need of help. Sounds hypocritical to me.

Sorry if that came off as rude. :(
 

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Well what I meant was that people worry about a life that isn't born yet but altogether ignore the life that is already here and in need of help. Sounds hypocritical to me.

Sorry if that came off as rude. :(
i get what you said now. if you listen to music nowadays, you hear one song about how rich they are. if you listen to another song by that person, they say how they dont really care about the money, yet they dont do shit for those kids
 

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definitely the woman's choice im against it personally but if my gf said that's what she wanted if she was pregnant than that's what'd happen
 

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What's annoying is teen girls getting willingly getting banged by seven guys and then aborting the child they clearly had a high chance of conceiving. However, I do think abortion is the choice of the woman and it doesn't matter that it's a life. I agree with what Koto said, what about the orphaned children without families? And adoption? What the hell is wrong with you? The child doesn't even get to have any biological family and has a low chance of finding a good one.
 

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Ultimately, I'm against abortion. At the end of the day however, it's the female that makes the final choice. Since I've been in the situation w/ my wife before we got married, I put up the fight with my reasons and we both can't ever imagine our lives without our baby :D

Children are a blessing, whether we want to have them or not. We don't always get to have the best parents or we aren't always the best kids, but life is precious... especially a human life. What animal gets up in the morning and says, "today, i'm going to be a _____ (fill in the blank)!"?
 

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it doesnt matter how many months you go along, it is still ending a life. what does rape have to do with it? ADOPTION. it pisses me off to no ends to hear people try to justify killing a baby. what if you had been aborted and god let you see what your life would be like if you werent? wouldnt you be pissed?
By your logic, ejaculating is ending lives too.

By the way, adoption is terrible.

Also, don't use god in any argument, as to an atheist, it makes you look like a fool.
 
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It's also a baby's life.
Possibility of a baby. There is no baby yet.


Some of you guys just assume that the woman is the slot and don't even try to dig deep inside and blame the guy. Many of you assume that she asked to be raped and she asked to have the child. I can tell that that is what the majority of you are saying based on your responses.

You are not that woman. That is between her and whoever she trusts to explain her situation to. If you can't agree that it's her choice then too bad. That is all they will be, opinions. If you are so bent on deciding for her and talking about "Ohhh the child's life...please think of the children," why don't you go help the millions of orphans that are out there who need a loving home and family. All those kids who need love and attention. Help those guys out first THEN you can start talking. Either way like I said it's her choice not yours. Don't infringe on her rights just as we don't infringe on your rights.

Sorry if that comes off as overprotective but I have had a dear friend go through the hell of rape. You won't believe the trouble and ignorant minds we had to get through to get her help. Many of them had the same mindset that the majority of you have. One man even had the balls to tell her she shouldn't have asked for it and that it was her fault. Believe me I had to get arrested on some occasions because of people's attitudes. And the horrible thing was that it was a friend of ours who raped her. I hope that guy rots in prison. At least for the short time he is there.

-rage-

Anyways, like I said, sorry if I came off as mean or rude but its a very personal issue that I have to deal with. Can you imagine what she must be going through in her head?
I'm sorry for your firesnd. Most of the members here are too young to understand the how complicated and cruel life can be.

What's annoying is teen girls getting willingly getting banged by seven guys and then aborting the child they clearly had a high chance of conceiving. However, I do think abortion is the choice of the woman and it doesn't matter that it's a life. I agree with what Koto said, what about the orphaned children without families? And adoption? What the hell is wrong with you? The child doesn't even get to have any biological family and has a low chance of finding a good one.
Main problem I'm seeing in this issue that all the blame is being put on the woman while she is the one who is going to suffer the most and lose the most. What about the responsibility of the father in this issue. If the woman goes ahead and delivers the baby , how many of these males against abortion are ready to take responsibility and adopt these kids?

If the men and women in society would act responsibly in society this problem may be only exceptional would go for the abortion in the first place.
 

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it doesnt matter how many months you go along, it is still ending a life. what does rape have to do with it? ADOPTION. it pisses me off to no ends to hear people try to justify killing a baby. what if you had been aborted and god let you see what your life would be like if you werent? wouldnt you be pissed?
By your logic, ejaculating is ending lives too.

By the way, adoption is terrible.

Also, don't use god in any argument, as to an atheist, it makes you look like a fool.
Yes. Although I understand in your stance you need to go by the OP rules of not using religion in this argument. Thank you.
 
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If she got pregnant by accident she should take responsability.... if she wanted a baby but changed her mind she should still take responsability...

If she doesnt want it... she has the right faith or no faith... its her body

If she was Raped.... she has all the right.... Faith or no faith again
And why exactly should the unborn child be punished if the woman was raped? If wasn't the baby's fault. Even in the case of rape (which is already unlikely if the woman doesn't parade herself), abortion doesn't seem right. Life is a blessing dude, don't take the chance away from others.
 

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idc if its right wrong or goes agianst ur religion, the fact of the matter is if the poeple of america feel as if they need a law to kill a fetus then we should vote on it....we did and its concluded that we can in the respected states. Im sorry but you have to under stand before america puts the religion it puts the democracy.
 

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In whatever means, if its good or bad, if you do abortion you'll go straight to hell. There's gnashing of teeth, screaming, crying until you can't cry anymore
 

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In whatever means, if its good or bad, if you do abortion you'll go straight to hell. There's gnashing of teeth, screaming, crying until you can't cry anymore
Truth is relative.

I respect your opinion. But all that is based on your beliefs, which we already asked do not bring religion into this conversation.
 

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After reading the last couple of posts I see that most people think that it's the womens choice yes that is true I agree. But the baby should be put up for adoption. Some couples want a baby but for some reason can't have one. And not all women would go insane from being raped. From my under standing women are supposed to be strong willed. And it's a death. I guess either way with or with our abortion the baby or the women will get hurt in the end. There is no real answer.
 

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After reading the last couple of posts I see that most people think that it's the womens choice yes that is true I agree. But the baby should be put up for adoption. Some couples want a baby but for some reason can't have one. And not all women would go insane from being raped. From my under standing women are supposed to be strong willed. And it's a death. I guess either way with or with our abortion the baby or the women will get hurt in the end. There is no real answer.
there is none. people will argue about this until the world eats itself. even if they come to a settlement, someone will do it again, and the arguments will continue
 

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MAn after seeing how long this has gone for.... I just dont care anymore...

hmm abortions should only be carried out if continuing the pregnancy involves a greater risk to the physical or mental health of the woman, or her existing children, than having a termination.

Sure, have the baby and put him up for adoption. But whether is right or wrong its HER body and choice.

If she was raped... and she has been traumatized and having the baby will destroy her, then Abort (because you dont fully know if the child is going to be fine or healthy) so why risk the womans life?

If it was an accident take responsability and have it and if they still think they are not fit to take care of the child, then put him or her up for adoption.
 
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