[Discussion] Abortion Questions?

Should Contraception be outlawed?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • No

    Votes: 6 66.7%

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Punk Hazard

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How is being raped a coward's way out when it was unlawfully and immorally placed upon you in the first place?

Being raped isn't the coward's way out. For you to get this from my post is just....wow...

My point is that getting an abortion doesn't negate the rape. It's happened and it's not the kid's fault. So why should he get the short end of the stick for it?
 

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As much as I disagree with it, it's the mother's decision, not mine.
 

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Being raped isn't the coward's way out. For you to get this from my post is just....wow...

My point is that getting an abortion doesn't negate the rape. It's happened and it's not the kid's fault. So why should he get the short end of the stick for it?

It's possible because the child was conceived via rape that the mother would feel animosity towards it.
 

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Being raped isn't the coward's way out. For you to get this from my post is just....wow...

My point is that getting an abortion doesn't negate the rape. It's happened and it's not the kid's fault. So why should he get the short end of the stick for it?

I got that from your post because you said "abortion is the cowards way out". Of course I would interpret that as being what you meant!

I won't dispute the very complex forms of "freedoms" being discussed here, but were the female to have an abortion immediately after being raped, it would be like she never had conception: no consciousness, no nerves, no heart or brain development. All she had was just a blastula, a mass of cells.
 

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I dont believe in abortion......
Never will consider or have one.
If you didnt want a baby, dont open your legs,*** has a meaning ya know?
If you were forced into a sexual act and got pregnant, still dont, many people cant have babies out here, give your baby to someone who can provide for them and treat them right, if you cannot raise them
Just my input
 

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Not most of it, no. Condoms, injections, pills, and diaphragms do not terminate someone else's freedom, because there wasn't a new, third party to begin with.

I see what your saying but doesn't everybody deserve a fighting chance to life despite the circumstances?
 

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I don't support abortion. It's the coward's way out.

"I didn't want to have a baby, I forgot the condom!"
You should've been more responsible. It's called consequences.

"I was raped!"
And robbing this baby of his life will unrape you?

You view having an unwanted child as a "consequence"? Where do you get this kind of mentality from?That causes resentment, which equals bad parenting.

Bringing life into this world should never be viewed as a "consequence that should be dealt with". That's just dumb logic, right there.

Edit: Terminating the pregnancy before the fetus develops a "consciousness" is not "giving them the short of the stick".
 
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I've read your past posts on different threads some of them mine, you seem like the type who is a strong believer of personal freedoms and liberties/rights. Isn't contraception a freedom to end someone else's freedom?

In today's society, we have more important things to worry about. Unwanted pregnancies is a phenomenon that will certainly drop when we build our society in a way that the wellbeing of the people is a primary priority. The world is too corrupt right now, and everyone tries to force their own little view's upon others in the form of policy proposals and such. First off: Let's stop poisoning our children domestically, stop killing foreign children, and stop stealing resources from other nations leaving families in financial chaos with rising poverty.

Also, I wouldn't want a child to be born, unwanted...in poverty.. with potential decease..with parents that have more fear then love for you.
 

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Being raped isn't the coward's way out. For you to get this from my post is just....wow...

My point is that getting an abortion doesn't negate the rape. It's happened and it's not the kid's fault. So why should he get the short end of the stick for it?

I agree with riker, for once Lol
 

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I see what your saying but doesn't everybody deserve a fighting chance to life despite the circumstances?

If there are tools to prevent the conception, then there would be no life in the first place; every single step to attain life would be removed, thus having no form of life at all. When there is nothing, there is void of consciousness.
 

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I got that from your post because you said "abortion is the cowards way out". Of course I would interpret that as being what you meant!

I won't dispute the very complex forms of "freedoms" being discussed here, but were the female to have an abortion immediately after being raped, it would be like she never had conception: no consciousness, no nerves, no heart or brain development. All she had was just a blastula, a mass of cells.

Yes. Me saying "abortion is the coward's way out" clearly indicates that rape victims are cowards. :|

Don't get me wrong. The morning after pill, getting it while it's just cells, I'm fine with that. It's once it's started to develop into a person, a fetus, that's what I disagree with.
 

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As much as I disagree with it, it's the mother's decision, not mine.
This ^. IT's the mothers body...
I dont believe in abortion......
Never will consider or have one.
If you didnt want a baby, dont open your legs,*** has a meaning ya know?
If you were forced into a sexual act and got pregnant, still dont, many people cant have babies out here, give your baby to someone who can provide for them and treat them right, if you cannot raise them
Just my input
Hmm... I agree with the points you made until you came to the rape scenario. What if the girl does not want to go through the pain of giving childbirth? It's only fair that she should be able to choose not to have the baby. It's her body after all.
 

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Hmm... I agree with the points you made until you came to the rape scenario. What if the girl does not want to go through the pain of giving childbirth? It's only fair that she should be able to choose not to have the baby. It's her body after all.

Aborting a baby because you dont want to go through the pain of delivering it, well guess what they have options so you dont have to go through this pain, C-section and i believe there is this paralyzing medicine from the waist and below, so you wont have to go through any pain and just deliver.Why should the baby die cause the mom was scared to use her uterus. Its there for a reason .
 

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You view having an unwanted child as a "consequence"? Where do you get this kind of mentality from?That causes resentment, which equals bad parenting.

Bringing life into this world should never be viewed as a "consequence that should be dealt with". That's just dumb logic, right there.

Perhaps I should go more in depth. In the consequence part, I was referring to cases where people sleep around and neglect to use a condom and it results in a pregnancy.

It may sound harsh or whatever, but in that case, the pregnancy is a consequence of negligence and a child is the result.
 

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Yes. Me saying "abortion is the coward's way out" clearly indicates that rape victims are cowards. :|

Then don't put that as a header to mean that you view this in general, Lol Because rape victims also have the freedom to have abortions, then you have your interpretation, one puts two-and-two together, and suddenly I'm without any pants.

Don't get me wrong. The morning after pill, getting it while it's just cells, I'm fine with that. It's once it's started to develop into a person, a fetus, that's what I disagree with.

I also agree with this. Second and Third trimester periods are too far into the birthing process. The mother should have already known that she was pregnant (from sickness or from the fancy-pantsy detectors), PLUS enough weeks to make a decision. :hooray:
 

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It is possible for a 13 year old to have a baby without complications and with are current improvements in the medical field pain-killers cut down the amount of pain taken by a significant number, not saying there will be no pain.

Did I not mention the AIDs? You're talking about the epidural. Epidural doesn't prevent aids.
 

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I agree with @rikerslake @IAmenityl

Abort the child same as kill 1 life. Its a sin. How different you are than the killer out there?
 
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