[Debate] Abortion: do you agree with it?

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All men gotta do is gobble that booty up and we wouldn't have this problem.
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lol really now?
Also don't bring up stuff like "conciousness doesn't exist here and there" since you don't know what conciousness really is nor where it comes from.

As consciousness I mean knowing it is alive. That's how I view consciousness. It doesn't know it's alive.
 

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In the 1st month you can't even call it a living being...

If you cut the umbilical cord, it'll cease to grow and die. What isn't living can't die, therefore, it's living.​
 

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In the 1st month you can't even call it a living being...
It's forming, it's taking in nutrients to sustain itself, sounds living to me.
 

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You'll be surprised to find that the baby is not technically alive for it to be considered murder at a certain time, when abortion is an option.

Tell me what happens if the developing zygote/fetus is cut off from the oxygen, nutrients and water the mother's body provdies please.
 

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Tell me what happens if the developing zygote/fetus is cut off from the oxygen, nutrients and water the mother's body provdies please.

What happens if you cut off glucose from sperm cells.

You gona tell me masterbating is wrong because the cells are alive?
 

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Tell me what happens if the developing zygote/fetus is cut off from the oxygen, nutrients and water the mother's body provdies please.

Not sure on the certain time frame, but a baby/fetus/zygote is not alive to be considered murdered. A week old baby will not even be developed enough to "live" outside the mother. Now if all this is formed, then yes it would be murder.
 

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Not sure on the certain time frame, but a baby/fetus/zygote is not alive to be considered murdered. A week old baby will not even be developed enough to "live" outside the mother. Now if all this is formed, then yes it would be murder.

Key word is live.
 

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We should kill everyone in a coma by your logic. They're living, but they're not doing anything.

Right?​
Yes but the baby, is basically a parasite to the mother and will affect her life for the next 20 years. Why does she not get the choice to provide for the child or not.

There is a serious demerit to leaving the baby alive.
 

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We should kill everyone in a coma by your logic. They're living, but they're not doing anything.

Right?​

The difference is that someone coma has been knocked in a coma, or has some disease causing a coma. A fetus is only forming to become a human being.
 

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Yes but the baby, is basically a parasite to the mother and will affect her life for the next 20 years. Why does she not get the choice to provide for the child or not.

There is a serious demerit to leaving the baby alive.

She has the choice, and women will always have the choice. This is a debate on whether it's morally right or wrong, and in 9 out of 10 times, it's morally wrong.
The difference is that someone coma has been knocked in a coma, or has some disease causing a coma. A fetus is only forming to become a human being.

Yeah, so let's end their life before they live it. Sounds like a sound plan.​
 

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She has the choice, and women will always have the choice. This is a debate on whether it's morally right or wrong, and in 9 out of 10 times, it's morally wrong.

No it's more morally wrong to deny the mother the choice, than it is to kill non-sentient a parasite.

I am a firm believer that after the brain develops, abortions should be rejected, but before that they should be allowed.
 

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In the 1st month you can't even call it a living being...

You very much can. A new organism is formed the second the egg is fertilised.

That organism is of the human species and will become a baby.
 
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