A vs Itachi

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Location: Sasuke vs B
Restrictions: Itachi can only use incomplete susanoo. No genjutsu.
Starting Distance: 30M
Intel: Full for both.

Scenario 2: Onoki comes to aid Ay. Every version of Susanoo can be used. Genjustu as well. No restrictions for both.
 

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Itachi wins both scenarios. In scenario one, if A doesn't start in his full power, Amaterasu might as well take him down in that instant - while on the second scenario, A is an inexperienced at fighting Genjutsu. Not only can Itachi take him out, but at the same time he can control and hallucinate his movements to the point he attacks Ohnoki - who also himself, would lose against Itachi in an individual fight no matter how you look at it.​
 

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Itachi controlling Deidara to the point he that he would detonate Itachi, but almost killed himself.
That's called Genjutsu, nothing new or spl. And Aye is differ from a young deidara, and they know and fight different.
 

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That's called Genjutsu, nothing new or spl. And Aye is differ from a young deidara, and they know and fight different.
''Fight differently''. Doesn't really matter, does it? Even when he fought against Madara, while obviously Madara attempted to use a Genjutsu against him, A neglected that fact and still looked directly at his eyes. The reason why Itachi has significantly better chances to trap him, is because he has different variations of Genjutsu, and different methods to trap his victims in it. A doesn't fight cautiously, nor can he resist the illusion. Resting my case for now.

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Itachi would normally be able to take Ay. But you took away all genjutsu.
I don't see Itachi managing to hit Ay with Amaterasu when Sasuke couldn't.
Especially when Ay has full intel.
For scenario two, Ohnoki and Raikage make a deadly combo. They would win that one as well.
 

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Scenario 1 Ay wins because genjutsu is restricted.

Scenario 2 Ay and Onoki win because Onoki breaks Ay out of genjutsu if caught, and vice versa.
 

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''Fight differently''. Doesn't really matter, does it? Even when he fought against Madara, while obviously Madara attempted to use a Genjutsu against him, A neglected that fact and still looked directly at his eyes. The reason why Itachi has significantly better chances to trap him, is because he has different variations of Genjutsu, and different methods to trap his victims in it. A doesn't fight cautiously, nor can he resist the illusion. Resting my case for now.

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Incorrect! Aye the entire day even after fighting 5 ems clones from all directions and close range was never ever ever even close to being caught in a genjutsu until an outside distraction (tsunade) allowed him to let his guard down because he was concerned for her. Madara then had to literally grab him and force him close (super close) to stare him DIRECTLY IN HIS EYES! slow uchiha fans try to downplay others and overrated anything sharingan related. Nothing new.

Aye also fought sasuke and knows how they depend and use genjutsu allot, susannoo durability, and the black flames. And with his knowledge he would know how to combat itachi to his favor and have itachi on the def most the time. Restrict nothing and make this alive itachi before he died and aye wins mid diff. With the restrictions in place it's low diff.
 

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Incorrect! Aye the entire day even after fighting 5 ems clones from all directions and close range was never ever ever even close to being caught in a genjutsu until an outside distraction (tsunade) allowed him to let his guard down because he was concerned for her. Madara then had to literally grab him and force him close (super close) to stare him DIRECTLY IN HIS EYES! slow uchiha fans try to downplay others and overrated anything sharingan related. Nothing new.

Aye also fought sasuke and knows how they depend and use genjutsu allot, susannoo durability, and the black flames. And with his knowledge he would know how to combat itachi to his favor and have itachi on the def most the time. Restrict nothing and make this alive itachi before he died and aye wins mid diff. With the restrictions in place it's low diff.
An entire day seems like a blatant exaggeration, doesn't it? Better would be to say, i.e an hour or half at best. There's also the fact that you cannot control how where a person looks at. A was grabbed, but the shock made him look at directly at Madara's eyes. You could call it an acute stress reaction. A simple trick from Itachi identical to it, would grant the same result.

Sasuke didn't once activate Genjutsu in his fight with A - in fact, he rarely does that. He and Madara are also much inferior Genjutsu-users, who not only use inferior type of Genjutsu's, but also have lesser methods to trap one in Genjutsu. So I wouldn't compare them to Itachi if I were you...​
 

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An entire day seems like a blatant exaggeration, doesn't it? Better would be to say, i.e an hour or half at best. There's also the fact that you cannot control how where a person looks at. A was grabbed, but the shock made him look at directly at Madara's eyes. You could call it an acute stress reaction. A simple trick from Itachi identical to it, would grant the same result.

Sasuke didn't once activate Genjutsu in his fight with A - in fact, he rarely does that. He and Madara are also much inferior Genjutsu-users, who not only use inferior type of Genjutsu's, but also have lesser methods to trap one in Genjutsu. So I wouldn't compare them to Itachi if I were you...
I said the entire day, not 24 hours. the entire day means the time they were fighting (which was in a day) nothing happened. I also see you didn't deny the fact that he had to be grabbed. And Aye was only grabbed because he for a moment let his guard down and WAS FIGHTING MULTIPLE EMS SUSANOO USERS!!! Fact! Itachi will not and cannot duplicate what exactly happened! Plus Aye was caught in a EMS Genjutsu, not 3 tomoe. Tsukuyomi is comepletely out of the question since he will never get caught, any other low level is laughed at since he would blitz the moment he attempts any handsigns. Aye is simply not getting caught in any visual genjutsu (Fact he had to get grabbed to get caught, no disputing unless), and finger gen is too slow and easily countered or broken since it only changes reality to attempted to mind fuq you.

It is easy to fight with out DIRECT EYE CONTACT! the gokage did it just fine with 25 ems susanoo users. Doesn't matter if Itachi's level of genjutsu is higher or has more, if he doesnt have Direct Eye contact; visual genjutsu is useless. Simple! Please stop trying to act as though Itachi is god and will always automatically with no effort catch every ninja ever shown in genjutsu. Aye's fighting style is punch, overpower and move! No talking no waiting, just stick and move!
 

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Incorrect! Aye the entire day even after fighting 5 ems clones from all directions and close range was never ever ever even close to being caught in a genjutsu until an outside distraction (tsunade) allowed him to let his guard down because he was concerned for her. Madara then had to literally grab him and force him close (super close) to stare him DIRECTLY IN HIS EYES! slow uchiha fans try to downplay others and overrated anything sharingan related. Nothing new.

Aye also fought sasuke and knows how they depend and use genjutsu allot, susannoo durability, and the black flames. And with his knowledge he would know how to combat itachi to his favor and have itachi on the def most the time. Restrict nothing and make this alive itachi before he died and aye wins mid diff. With the restrictions in place it's low diff.
I'm glad you mentioned Tsunade. That was the reason he was caught which was very obvious.
 
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