A New Theory About The Rinnegan

[Neutrino00]

exactly the "6 paths of pein" meaning each one is one of peins paths and that makes all of them the real pein.

I am not really a genius
or a hard worker, rofl
i am in a challenge class although non of the guys here are true challenge people
it would be impossible to teach a class made up of only true challenge students
a challenge student is someone who is Intellectually gifted and at risk
(YES A TRUE CHALLENGE STUDENT IS A SPECIAL NEEDS PERSON)

 

[SupremeSpoiler]

The 6 Paths Of Pein Is The One Representing Pein..There Are 2 Types Of This Thing..

*The 6 Paths Of Pein
*Sage Of The Six Paths

The Sage of the Six Paths was said to be the legendary figure who founded the ninja way and was the first to invent ninjutsu. He was said to be the "only" shinobi to possess the Rinnegan, which presumably laid the groundwork for the other dōjutsu, the Sharingan and the Byakugan.

The 6 Paths Of Pein Is The One Made By Pein..

Connecting It To My Theory..I Said That Maybe Nagato Is The Reincarnation Of The Rinnegan Holder Before..The Rokudou Sennin..So What Im Saying Is That If He Is The Reincarnation..There Is The Chance That He Made The 6 Paths Of Pein..And Therefore Calling Pein The Sage Of The Six Paths..

 

[Neutrino00]

Dude i just read the manga and it turns out your theory was 100% correct sort of.

 

[SupremeSpoiler]

OMG..Realmsss..!!..^_^

 

[maxxxmouse]

your theory seems a lot like a my theory of pein and some other guy theory of him altough we all used different types of "realms" or "hells" or stages of divinity, the other guy used the vharma as his source i personally used Dante's hells. but that is not important anymore since u got the realms correct props to you. but i have to differ on several issues, Enlightenment by pain is no enlightenment per Se, enlightenment is when one has reached the highest level or the culmination of spiritual path to which one has an understanding and insight to all nature phenomena (i believe this is more like sage mode) also once enlightenment has been achieved it is said that one is released from suffering..pain of course is not released from this since he wants to have everyone feel pain and is clearly transtornated. Also if u take into an account the reincarnation issue then if nagato had the rinnegan he has close ties spiritually with rudoku (it's the same with all the Buddhas that's why they all adopt the Buddha name). Another point i disagree with you even though a pretty dam good explanation on the 6 different bodies and how to control them, i don't think that a soul can split into different bodies or be in control of several bodies at the same time, although soul transfer might be attainable i do believe that he has different methods of controlling ppl...the stupid piercings they use keep on bugging me specially since jiraya was impaled with one of their "weapons" that look like the piercing and starting to lose control of his chakra and self, if it wasn't for fukasaku then we wouldn't know what happened to jiraya, also contributing to the soul splitting and controlling the bodies even after death, that doesn't explain why will pein leave that body that shizune is analysing behind (if he can control the soul even in dead bodies then he could of controlled that body again and finish jiraya out before he could of send a message or "wake" him up so they won't extract information out of him specially since pain is trying not to "reveal his secret"

 

[SupremeSpoiler]

Yeah..Very nice observation there..the pierciengs bugs me off too..anyway..The Rinnegan eye has another term..which is called Transmigration Eye..Nagato's ability to transfer souls to these host bodies probably gives rise to the "Transmigration" name. This is a cycle of reincarnation and rebirth seen in Hinduism and Buddhism. which is like the same happening with the 6 paths of pein..but for me i really really think..that nagato is the reincarnation of Sage of six paths..i really feel that nagato is behind all of this and he is alive..just my thought..in the part where your saying that about the body that jiraiya killed..remember that only the souls can transfer..but the body is still tangeble..it can be killed..as you can see..when that summoner pein died..pein for me did transferred that soul to another host..which is the girl that use summonings too..thats where my theory applied that these paths..when they died..they still roam and can transfer to another host. thats the power of rinnegan. just a theory.

 

[6th hokage]

dude good effort. i didnt read the whole as its big, but what r saying is rikodou sennin is incarnated at different times and born at different realms acc to what he did in his previous life. currently he is pain and in deva realm. correct?

now, this evolution thing of ur theory is certainly new. but the realm u touched is discussed abt a month ago in this thread, page 3.

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the main difference betn ur theory and mine, ur theory suggests pain(all 6 of them) himself is from a single realm. whereas i said abt a month ago pain's 6 bodies represents 6 realms. i identified which body represents which realm, i was correct upto 4 bodies. just swap the rest, i will be vindicated. if u have time, read above thread, page 3. i was wrong in some little parts, but overall the analysis was correct.

PS. i also thought pain is a reincarnation of rikodou. but its just a guess. i support u on that.
PS2. isnt it obvious from the beginning the real pain whoever he is, divided his abilities/jutsus into 6 different bodies?

 

[NarutoWind]

Dudde your awesome! everything makes complete sense!

 

[SupremeSpoiler]

dude good effort. i didnt read the whole as its big, but what r saying is rikodou sennin is incarnated at different times and born at different realms acc to what he did in his previous life. currently he is pain and in deva realm. correct?

now, this evolution thing of ur theory is certainly new. but the realm u touched is discussed abt a month ago in this thread, page 3.

You must be registered for see links

the main difference betn ur theory and mine, ur theory suggests pain(all 6 of them) himself is from a single realm. whereas i said abt a month ago pain's 6 bodies represents 6 realms. i identified which body represents which realm, i was correct upto 4 bodies. just swap the rest, i will be vindicated. if u have time, read above thread, page 3. i was wrong in some little parts, but overall the analysis was correct.

PS. i also thought pain is a reincarnation of rikodou. but its just a guess. i support u on that.
PS2. isnt it obvious from the beginning the real pain whoever he is, divided his abilities/jutsus into 6 different bodies?

Thanks Man..Anyway..As I Was Saying..Thats Why I Stated That Any Connections To Pein Has Certain Kinds Of Realms..This Ties With The Belief of The Bhavacakra. The Six Realms of Existence.

The world of Devas(gods)
The world of Asuras(demi gods, titans)
The world of Humans
The world of Animals
The world of Pretas(hungry ghosts)
The world of Hell.

Just As You Can See In Naruto Manga 419..This Realms Are Mentioned..But Others Are Different Terms..Anyway..I Liked your Thread Before..

 

[Genox]

Yes, that's straight from kishi's plot
You are absolutely right!

(Small thing- Rinnegan means Samsara eye too, and in Buddhism,because
Naruto is strongly related to Buddhism, Samsara is the ocean of suffering and
Pain where we live, and It's the never-ending cycle of re-birth, which
should be broken.
And Nirvana is roughly said the Heaven,( Soul Society bleach hah noo )
where the enlightened souls go, and they form one )

Yeah, I was wondering alot about the same, I feel this is the answer, Good job!

(btw It's not a really new theory)

 

[shaolinchad]

your theory seems a lot like a my theory of pein and some other guy theory of him altough we all used different types of "realms" or "hells" or stages of divinity, the other guy used the vharma as his source i personally used Dante's hells. but that is not important anymore since u got the realms correct props to you. but i have to differ on several issues, Enlightenment by pain is no enlightenment per Se, enlightenment is when one has reached the highest level or the culmination of spiritual path to which one has an understanding and insight to all nature phenomena (i believe this is more like sage mode) also once enlightenment has been achieved it is said that one is released from suffering..pain of course is not released from this since he wants to have everyone feel pain and is clearly transtornated. Also if u take into an account the reincarnation issue then if nagato had the rinnegan he has close ties spiritually with rudoku (it's the same with all the Buddhas that's why they all adopt the Buddha name). Another point i disagree with you even though a pretty dam good explanation on the 6 different bodies and how to control them, i don't think that a soul can split into different bodies or be in control of several bodies at the same time, although soul transfer might be attainable i do believe that he has different methods of controlling ppl...the stupid piercings they use keep on bugging me specially since jiraya was impaled with one of their "weapons" that look like the piercing and starting to lose control of his chakra and self, if it wasn't for fukasaku then we wouldn't know what happened to jiraya, also contributing to the soul splitting and controlling the bodies even after death, that doesn't explain why will pein leave that body that shizune is analysing behind (if he can control the soul even in dead bodies then he could of controlled that body again and finish jiraya out before he could of send a message or "wake" him up so they won't extract information out of him specially since pain is trying not to "reveal his secret"

Naruto is gaining the real enlightenment. He is the real Sage, by mastering natural energy. Naruto will defeat Pein, because I think that he is the only one that can see through him. Having perfected Sage Mode and having a endless amount of energy, he can destroy Pein. Even J-man said that he was the chosen one, who would never give up until there was peace with others. I'll give you an example: Throughout Naruto people have been saying that Naruto has a special power. The power to be-friend anyone he meets, showing deep care for others. Pein was like that when he was Nagato. He cared about his friends and even cared for the enemy that attacked his friends. But now Pein has changed into someone that wants everyone to feel pain and shows no real power of peace!!! He went down the wrong path when he lost control over his powers and killed that ninja. He even said that he blacked out. Naruto noticed the pain he caused to others when he lost control over the 9tails. That's what he's doing right now, controlling the power within him, so he can truly perfect Sage Mode. Feeling everything around him(meaning every living being). I'll give another example: remember when Naruto was chasing Saroi and he felt the pain that Saroi was feeling from a distance. That is a true power of a Sage(chosen one).You guys are on point on what Pein is; A person that has ripped his soul apart so many times that he's nether human nor God. A true Sage feels God around him, and acts for the sake of others!!!

 

[Zero]

dude wow i've never done this to anyone but *applauds* but i believe in your first theory it seems more believable to me but that is my opinion :') gai-sensei would be proud

 

[SupremeSpoiler]

dude wow i've never done this to anyone but *applauds* but i believe in your first theory it seems more believable to me but that is my opinion :') gai-sensei would be proud

Thanks Man..Appreciated It..^_^

 

[twistedlink]

I thought the whole rebirth cycle from eastern religions and the 6 realms they have has already been discussed and theorised like 1 1/2 months ago?

 

[QwertyHero]

I thought the whole rebirth cycle from eastern religions and the 6 realms they have has already been discussed and theorised like 1 1/2 months ago?

Lol, yea, that's what I was thinking.

 

[Genox]

Yeah, It's a loooong discussion

Just to add-

You know, 7 is a holy number
in the Japanese culture, and in Buddhism.

So besides the 6 material paths of Samsara (material is even the ghost realm of Pain)
there is a Seventh, which is celestial, and all the east philosophers consider
the seventh path as self-understandable, and they don't mention it normally
,so it remains celestial. It's the seventh path of the life energy (the energy that moves the universe), and in the case of Pain, Nagato
is the seventh path, which controls the 6 material ones.
This makes sense, in the 7-th path in example goes
all the information gathered from pain's 12 rin'negans,
or if you like from there comes all the commands which
are done by the other paths.

You could call it as you wish - "brain" or "Energy"
, that's the missing Nagato.
And exactly the 7-th path selects the bodies,which
to use for the lower Paths.



Kishimoto didn't hide this so well, It's obvious that from the 6
revealed paths, in the 7-th is the key




(Hm I wonder where the piercing of all the bodies fit in here?)

 

[Kyuubi XZ]

Wow! Great theory! I agree with you bro. But if it is true how many mangas will Kishi use to explain that? OMG! Like 20! Also if that is true all the theories about Naruto coming back to own Pain is pretty much out the window.

Unless there is some myth about the Kyuubi and it has some legendary power to be able to fight demigods, which is when Naruto is going to use the froggy scroll thing Jiriya spit out to harness the true power of the Kyuubi!

Muhahahahahahahahahhah!

 

[Neutrino00]

But demi-gods can still die remember.
also naruto has acheived sage-mode which is kind of like enlightenment in a way and that makes him like really powerfull too so naruto can still beat the god known as pein.

 

[Kyuubi XZ]

I dont think Naruto can defeat Pain with just Sage mode. It will have to be combining sage mode with Kyuubi power. I mean.... Sage mode is almost exactly like demon fox cloak: he gets massive strength, cant be hurt easily, alot more chakra, and so on. Therefore to use sage mode to its full potential he has to combine his 2 powers

 

[Ero sennin]

maybe here is a weakness in the bodys of pein. in that room that stores them it seems to be like a chakra recharger. maybe that how they get brought back to life like the jutsu chiro used to save garra well the rinagan enables him to use all jutsu so maybe that why they got restored. also maybe if they run out of chakra the body becomes useless and has to be recharged. think to battle pein u need lots of endurance if u want to out last him of his chakra. naruto may be the only one whos got enough to battle to wear peins bodys out till the real one apears. just a idea i had.