a full evoled uchiha can beat any senju 1on1

[Unorthodox]

Yes, just like mine it is a "Theory"
You don't think it's ironic that Madara, Tobi, and SO6P have both Senju and Uchiha DNA and Nagato as well (This is based on my theory that SO6P was an uzumaki also)

stop saying theory sharingan wiki says rinnegan is an evolution to sharingan wiki>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your theory

 

[XxNaruto10xX]

nope

 

[naruto s06p beastmode]

i say it depends on whos fighting who ...

 

[Kazekage35]

stop saying theory sharingan wiki says rinnegan is an evolution to sharingan wiki>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your theory

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Please show me where it says that. It says kabuto and oro hypothesized it is a natural transformation. Nowhere does this say it is certain. Kabuto and Oro have been wrong before so they easily could be wrong now

Also why would Kishi hypothesize the truth? We all know kishi likes to throw twists. The Rinnegan was originally thought of as a myth, but the SO6P had it. He never had Sharingan did he? How could it be a natural evolution of something he never had

 

[Unorthodox]

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Please show me where it says that. It says kabuto and oro hypothesized it is a natural transformation. Nowhere does this say it is certain. Kabuto and Oro have been wrong before so they easily could be wrong now

Also why would Kishi hypothesize the truth? We all know kishi likes to throw twists. The Rinnegan was originally thought of as a myth, but the SO6P had it. He never had Sharingan did he? How could it be a natural evolution of something he never had

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[Helikido]

The only reason the current madara could beat Hashirama now, not taking the edo into account, is that he has Hashirama's powers as well, when Madara fought Hashirama, he was a fully matured Uchiha, so no, a fully matured Uchiha cannot beat any senju, disproved point right there.

OK pretty sure madara could have killed any senju but hashirama...

 

[Unorthodox]

OK pretty sure madara could have killed any senju but hashirama...

madara never got to fight with his rinnegan while he was alive and him and hashi were even with ems

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

Hashirama already defeated EMS madara so i dont think so you have got a point there

 

[serpiente clan]

Shinra tenseeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

 

[Darksharinnegan]

obviously it depends on the fighter

noobs

 

[Unorthodox]

Hashirama already defeated EMS madara so i dont think so you have got a point there

you get rinnegan after ems shutup and read pasthttp://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sharingan post or read title read wheere its says beyond eternal mongekyou

 

[Kazekage35]

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Remember when the Wiki said tobi was madara?
As soon as something is said in the manga (does not matter if there is evidence or not) they put it in the wiki
That proves nothing
There is no proof you need Senju DNA and there is no proof you do not need it.
My point is Hashirama>Madara fully evolved
Madara fully evolved is EMS madara not the Madara with the Rinnegan who STOLE HASHIRAMAS DNA

 

[rai shado]

Yes, just like mine it is a "Theory"
You don't think it's ironic that Madara, Tobi, and SO6P have both Senju and Uchiha DNA and Nagato as well (This is based on my theory that SO6P was an uzumaki also)

Firstly, Kabuto's theory was brought up by Kishi and therefore holds more bearing than anything other than what Kishi says.

Second, it is not Senju DNA that everyone wants, Tsunade has that, it is Hashirama's in particular because he was the only one of the Senju to have the abilities he had, and before you bring up Yamato, he was an experiment of Orochimaru's and had Hashirama's DNA implanted in him.

Third, haven't you found it odd that Tobi is so old yet still able to fight so well, this is probably because he is an Uzumaki himself. And that his possesion of the Hashirama's DNA would further extend his life, because the DNA itself would not allow him to live so long.

 

[Unorthodox]

Remember when the Wiki said tobi was madara?
As soon as something is said in the manga (does not matter if there is evidence or not) they put it in the wiki
That proves nothing
There is no proof you need Senju DNA and there is no proof you do not need it.
My point is Hashirama>Madara fully evolved
Madara fully evolved is EMS madara not the Madara with the Rinnegan who STOLE HASHIRAMAS DNA

so madara ems losing do not mean all uchihas lose everybody have there own fighting style

 

[Uzziiss]

It hasn't stated anywhere in the manga that the sharringan evolves into the rinnegan, it says it can get to it, Madara awakened it After he obtained senju DNA so you can only guess, from what I understand it's hinted that you need senju blood. People ask why? Why did itachi need senju DNA to activate shishu sharringan? Rest my case
I think since the uchiha are very distant relatives of the son they need senju DNA to strength that so then they can activate it, people read the manga it's stated in it! Ffs
just to clear up with all you fanboys, when the 1st fought Madara he had ems AND the nine tails and who won? So when people say Madara would own the first it's pretty ****ing dumb. Kishi obviously stated that the first is the strongest so why do people try to disagree.

 

[Kazekage35]

Firstly, Kabuto's theory was brought up by Kishi and therefore holds more bearing than anything other than what Kishi says.

Second, it is not Senju DNA that everyone wants, Tsunade has that, it is Hashirama's in particular because he was the only one of the Senju to have the abilities he had, and before you bring up Yamato, he was an experiment of Orochimaru's and had Hashirama's DNA implanted in him.

Third, haven't you found it odd that Tobi is so old yet still able to fight so well, this is probably because he is an Uzumaki himself. And that his possesion of the Hashirama's DNA would further extend his life, because the DNA itself would not allow him to live so long.

Tobi has hashiramas DNA. It is pretty obvious he has white zetsu in him (when he cut off his arm it clearly shows this) who is made out of hashiramas DNA. With kabutos theory ya i know it was brought up by kishi, he is the writer... but kishi intentionally brings up wrong theories to make everyone believe it like you guys, then throws a huge twist. As for the Yamato part, i know how Yamato got wood style? Idk what your point with him was

so madara ems losing do not mean all uchihas lose everybody have there own fighting style

You said a fully evolved Uchiha... Madara and Sasuke are the only fully evolved uchiha's and Hashirama is the only fully evolved Senju and he can beat them both so A fully evolved senju>a fully evolved Uchiha ASSUMING you need both DNA for rinnegan

 

[rai shado]

Remember when the Wiki said tobi was madara?
As soon as something is said in the manga (does not matter if there is evidence or not) they put it in the wiki
That proves nothing
There is no proof you need Senju DNA and there is no proof you do not need it.
My point is Hashirama>Madara fully evolved
Madara fully evolved is EMS madara not the Madara with the Rinnegan who STOLE HASHIRAMAS DNA

The wiki said Tobi was Madara because thats what the manga lead everyone to believe at the time, after Madara was brought back via edo tensei, they revised it. So far fully evolved sharingan includes the Rinnegan because the only credible theory at the moment is Kabuto's which is that the Rinnegan is a natural evolution of the Sharingan.

As we know the Sharingan usually advances at a crucial time such as in a life and death situation. Madara's ems could have gone to Rinnegan during the fight with Hashirama, most likely at the end and that is how he survived.

 

[TrollingSage]

If you payed attention to the manga, Kabuto's theory is that the Rinnegan is a natural evolution of the sharingan, and madara didn't deny the theory either.

The wiki said Tobi was Madara because thats what the manga lead everyone to believe at the time, after Madara was brought back via edo tensei, they revised it. *So far fully evolved sharingan includes the Rinnegan because the only credible theory at the moment is Kabuto's which is that the Rinnegan is a natural evolution of the Sharingan.




As we know the Sharingan usually advances at a crucial time such as in a life and death situation. *Madara's ems could have gone to Rinnegan during the fight with Hashirama, most likely at the end and that is how he survived.

Wrong he never used those words. He never said it was natural. And I believe the word he used is progression not evolution.

 

[rai shado]

Tobi has hashiramas DNA. It is pretty obvious he has white zetsu in him (when he cut off his arm it clearly shows this) who is made out of hashiramas DNA. With kabutos theory ya i know it was brought up by kishi, he is the writer... but kishi intentionally brings up wrong theories to make everyone believe it like you guys, then throws a huge twist. As for the Yamato part, i know how Yamato got wood style? Idk what your point with him was


You said a fully evolved Uchiha... Madara and Sasuke are the only fully evolved uchiha's and Hashirama is the only fully evolved Senju and he can beat them both so A fully evolved senju>a fully evolved Uchiha ASSUMING you need both DNA for rinnegan

I believe I said Tobi has Hashirama's DNA. Thing is we cannot assume Kishi is trying to throw us off until he does, what you are experiencing is called confirmation bias, you ignore all facts except those that prove your theory.

 

[rai shado]

Wrong he never used those words. He never said it was natural. And I believe the word he used is progression not evolution.

Question, do you even know what evolution is? And that was my mistake, since evolution is a progression, just on a larger scale, like a several million year scale.