A change back?

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The point in no having customs before sannin rank is this:

Most of you use only your customs on battles and have no idea about the actual Naruto jutsus. I have seen it many times in senseis tests. People who i thought they were stronger than me, they don't stand a chance against other people in a non customs fights. I dislike that fact and as you all know i am allergic to unfair things.

Second point: You all rush to make customs and some of you have already reached the limit of 30.why? Cause depending on your fights now and your opponents' ranks & abilities at the moment you make customs jutsus that will help you, now.

Soon you will all reach 30 and then you won't be able to create anything for future battles and future opponents. Take for example me, i have submitted 13 jutsus, i am one of the people with the less jutsus made and although i have more of them (devlin's training, zanji's co-creations etc) i never use them. I have won Hells & Zanji using only the normal jutsus before and i am equally strong when i don't use customs. why? cause i know very very well to use the normal naruto jutsus and i know what they can do.

Allowing you to make customs when you reach sannin rank means:
That you have proven that you are able to win a non customs battle against someone that has higher rank than you (meaning that you are ready to request to be a sensei), that you have gained enough experience (missions) to actually see what you miss in battles and of course what is the thing you want to be your specialty, that you have developed strategy & tactics (since you are fighting with someone of higher rank than you)


You just don't want to lose the fun of making costums without seeing how "back stabbing" this is to you. You have for example 20 techniques you are so eager to keep them you don't see what you earn using this system.

For example someone who is a Jounin: He can be a Sannin in 25 days,getting trained under 4 different senseis and learn: 4th element, Battle training, KGs training, fuuinjutsu, advanced taijutsu and ninjutsu. All of them. Not to mention the experience he/she will get from the missions.

Bottom line: i don't agree with this.
I think you have to disallow all the old customs and make new custom justsu submission thread :/
 

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Am I the only one who thinks 25 days, almost an entire month, is way too long of a wait?

I don't see why people have to wait that long... Why can't it be two weeks tops?... People will lose interest in fighting if they have to wait a month just to move up a single rank and use jutsus they want to use.

And as for the customs part, I think everybody should be allowed. Say for example someone gets an idea for a great custom jutsu. They would of submitted it, but they couldn't because they weren't a Sannin. Someone who is a Sannin might have the same idea later and post the jutsu and it gets approved. I would be very mad if something like that happenend to me... Perhaps for people who can't submit, we can have another thread to post what they wouldve posted in the Customs Thread so no one will take their idea... They won't be approved or declined, though.

The Custom Jutsus Idea thread or something like that. XD

Bottomline: I just want the wait to be a higher rank a shorter period of time (so other members and I won't grow bored waiting) and customs making should be allowed for everyone.

That is all. U_U
 

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I have ideas for customs but now I need to wait an even longer time

before I was a specail jounin and when became jounin able to make customs but soon when i was going to become jounin the new system started and now Im a chunnin who needs to wait a long long time before able to even make/use customs...

Thats my only problem just waiting too long
 

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Am I the only one who thinks 25 days, almost an entire month, is way too long of a wait?

I don't see why people have to wait that long... Why can't it be two weeks tops?... People will lose interest in fighting if they have to wait a month just to move up a single rank and use jutsus they want to use.

And as for the customs part, I think everybody should be allowed. Say for example someone gets an idea for a great custom jutsu. They would of submitted it, but they couldn't because they weren't a Sannin. Someone who is a Sannin might have the same idea later and post the jutsu and it gets approved. I would be very mad if something like that happenend to me... Perhaps for people who can't submit, we can have another thread to post what they wouldve posted in the Customs Thread so no one will take their idea... They won't be approved or declined, though.

The Custom Jutsus Idea thread or something like that. XD

Bottomline: I just want the wait to be a higher rank a shorter period of time (so other members and I won't grow bored waiting) and customs making should be allowed for everyone.

That is all. U_U
Why everybody cares about the cuztoms? When I joined people didnt use t
hat much customs and the fight was kinda more interesting and fair. Whats so interesting when somebody kill you with just one move? Its getting even more boring :/
 

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Why everybody cares about the cuztoms? When I joined people didnt use t
hat much customs and the fight was kinda more interesting and fair. Whats so interesting when somebody kill you with just one move? Its getting even more boring :/
People care because customs = their unique style of fighting. Besides, it's fun making and using customs.

In the Naruto world, ninjas all have different abilities that no one else can use. That is why we make customs now, so we can have something great and no one will be able to use it.
 

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People care because customs = their unique style of fighting. Besides, it's fun making and using customs.

In the Naruto world, ninjas all have different abilities that no one else can use. That is why we make customs now, so we can have something great and no one will be able to use it.
Actually most of you guys care to be the strongest,maybe u should try to have some fun of it and dont care who would win
 

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Why everybody cares about the cuztoms? When I joined people didnt use t
hat much customs and the fight was kinda more interesting and fair. Whats so interesting when somebody kill you with just one move? Its getting even more boring :/
agreed.

People care because customs = their unique style of fighting. Besides, it's fun making and using customs.

In the Naruto world, ninjas all have different abilities that no one else can use. That is why we make customs now, so we can have something great and no one will be able to use it.
I am wondering Naruto, will you still say these if you were a Sannin?
And no since you guys trade customs nothing is unique anymore.

Actually most of you guys care to be the strongest,maybe u should try to have some fun of it and dont care who would win
agreed again^^
 

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@ Rei

Yeah, I would. Mainly because some of my friends who battle here aren't the rank they want to be. I'm not just saying this for myself, I'm saying it for others too.
 

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People care because customs = their unique style of fighting. Besides, it's fun making and using customs.

In the Naruto world, ninjas all have different abilities that no one else can use. That is why we make customs now, so we can have something great and no one will be able to use it.
Exactly.

I agree, Rei, that some people are too dependant on their customs, but customs make RPing on NB a hell of a lot more fun ; and since users who could earlier submit customs but now are re ranked to, say, Chuunin or Jonin have to wait roughly two months to submit customs, they will start losing interest.

While on the subject of customs, I cannot help noticing that the customs approved in the initial parts of the Custom Jutsu SUbmission thread before the stringwent restrictions were imposed, or the customs approved by the mods before the custom submission thread opened are overpwered when compared to the customs submitted later.

Here is where I agree with UchihaObito that you should disallow all existing customs and make a new thread - this will definitely make it fairer. And I myself do not stand to gain by this, since I too will lose customs - but I do think that wold be fairer on both the new users, and the battle system.

Also, notice that most Jonin's in the Naruto WOrld have their own "signature moves" - customs- e.g Raikiri, Brning Ash Accumulation, Genjutsu: Tree Bind Death etc. , and that since in the new system it is tougher to get to Jonin, I think that customs have to be allowed for Jonin's atleast.
 
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Exactly.

I agree, Rei, that some people are too dependant on their customs, but customs make RPing on NB a hell of a lot more fun ; and since users who could earlier submit customs but now are re ranked to, say, Chuunin or Jonin have to wait roughly two months to submit customs, they will start losing interest.

While on the subject of customs, I cannot help noticing that the customs approved in the initial parts of the Custom Jutsu SUbmission thread before the stringwent restrictions were imposed, or the customs approved by the mods before the custom submission thread opened are overpwered when compared to the customs submitted later.

Here is where I agree with UchihaObito that you should disallow all existing customs and make a new thread - this will definitely make it fairer. And I myself do not stand to gain by this, since I too will lose customs - but I do think that wold be fairer on both the new users, and the battle system.

Also, notice that most Jonin's in the Naruto WOrld have their own "signature moves" - customs- e.g Raikiri, Brning Ash Accumulation, Genjutsu: Tree Bind Death etc. , and that since in the new system it is tougher to get to Jonin, I think that customs have to be allowed for Jonin's atleast.
but they can only submit E-B RANK jutsus only =/
 

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Exactly.

I agree, Rei, that some people are too dependant on their customs, but customs make RPing on NB a hell of a lot more fun ; and since users who could earlier submit customs but now are re ranked to, say, Chuunin or Jonin have to wait roughly two months to submit customs, they will start losing interest.

While on the subject of customs, I cannot help noticing that the customs approved in the initial parts of the Custom Jutsu SUbmission thread before the stringwent restrictions were imposed, or the customs approved by the mods before the custom submission thread opened are overpwered when compared to the customs submitted later.

Here is where I agree with UchihaObito that you should disallow all existing customs and make a new thread - this will definitely make it fairer. And I myself do not stand to gain by this, since I too will lose customs - but I do think that wold be fairer on both the new users, and the battle system.

Also, notice that most Jonin's in the Naruto WOrld have their own "signature moves" - customs- e.g Raikiri, Brning Ash Accumulation, Genjutsu: Tree Bind Death etc. , and that since in the new system it is tougher to get to Jonin, I think that customs have to be allowed for Jonin's atleast.
I like it when you suggest things not for personal gain, but to make things better in here.
I would have no problem adjusting the rules now so that Jounins would be able to submit customs if we could review all the jutsus submitted, but unfortunately this can't happen, since we have almost 100 pages of jutsus submitted and that would cause a war. One of the reasons we made these rules, was to give you the chance to be all trained by all senseis so you can be an opponent experienced enough for these members who do have really strong customs, unfortunately most of people can't see far enough to see that.
But i agree with you and i will rep this post.
 

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but they can only submit E-B RANK jutsus only =/

Yes, that would be good too, Jonin's can submit upto B rank, S Class till A Rank, and Sannin's everything .

Well said, Emp. ^^
Thanks, Naruto.

I like it when you suggest things not for personal gain, but to make things better in here.
I would have no problem adjusting the rules now so that Jounins would be able to submit customs if we could review all the jutsus submitted, but unfortunately this can't happen, since we have almost 100 pages of jutsus submitted and that would cause a war. One of the reasons we made these rules, was to give you the chance to be all trained by all senseis so you can be an opponent experienced enough for these members who do have really strong customs, unfortunately most of people can't see far enough to see that.
But i agree with you and i will rep this post.

True. The moderators cannot review every single page, and it would be ridiculous of me to expect them to do so.
However, since the aim of the new rules is to indeed establish fairness, and there has to be more parity in submitting customs, I again suggest we remove all existing customs, and tell members to re-submit if they want them back, in a new thread.To prevent people from re-submitting all their customs at a go, we should perhaps maintain Nexus' rules of no more than four or five jutsus a week.

And, yes, there will be a few members angry about this measure, but I maintain that the majority of NB users are rational people and will understand the reason behind this measure.
Also, it is not as if they will "lose" their customs - it is just a temporary wait to ensure fairness - this will also help new RPers / moderately experienced RPers not having to fight users with inordinately powerful customs, who are Sannin now, or will become Sannin in the future.

The exact same way the Sensei system was "cleaned" a while ago to ensure efficiency I would like to point out that we must extend that measure to customs as well.
 

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True. The moderators cannot review every single page, and it would be ridiculous of me to expect them to do so.
However, since the aim of the new rules is to indeed establish fairness, and there has to be more parity in submitting customs, I again suggest we remove all existing customs, and tell members to re-submit if they want them back, in a new thread.To prevent people from re-submitting all their customs at a go, we should perhaps maintain Nexus' rules of no more than four or five jutsus a week.

And, yes, there will be a few members angry about this measure, but I maintain that the majority of NB users are rational people and will understand the reason behind this measure.
Also, it is not as if they will "lose" their customs - it is just a temporary wait to ensure fairness - this will also help new RPers / moderately experienced RPers not having to fight users with inordinately powerful customs, who are Sannin now, or will become Sannin in the future.

The exact same way the Sensei system was "cleaned" a while ago to ensure efficiency I would like to point out that we must extend that measure to customs as well.
i am up for this if the rest of the staff agrees ^^
I am always up for fair things anyways :p
 

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Yes, that would be good too, Jonin's can submit upto B rank, S Class till A Rank, and Sannin's everything .



Thanks, Naruto.




True. The moderators cannot review every single page, and it would be ridiculous of me to expect them to do so.
However, since the aim of the new rules is to indeed establish fairness, and there has to be more parity in submitting customs, I again suggest we remove all existing customs, and tell members to re-submit if they want them back, in a new thread.To prevent people from re-submitting all their customs at a go, we should perhaps maintain Nexus' rules of no more than four or five jutsus a week.

And, yes, there will be a few members angry about this measure, but I maintain that the majority of NB users are rational people and will understand the reason behind this measure.
Also, it is not as if they will "lose" their customs - it is just a temporary wait to ensure fairness - this will also help new RPers / moderately experienced RPers not having to fight users with inordinately powerful customs, who are Sannin now, or will become Sannin in the future.

The exact same way the Sensei system was "cleaned" a while ago to ensure efficiency I would like to point out that we must extend that measure to customs as well.
sounds good ^^
 

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Thank you, Rei :D
Should I perhaps make a poll thread to see public opinion?
Yes it would be good to see the public opinion about this matter, although i am telling you that i don't know how the rest of mods & smods are going to like this suggestion. Also if you want to give examples of the jutsus you disagree with (before the changes) please do not name their creators.

Also if this gets done, I'm warning you all, no complains about jutsus lost, like some of you are doing now. First you wanted the post count to be eliminated and a fair judgement of the ranks and now you are still complaining -talking in general-.
 

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Yes it would be good to see the public opinion about this matter, although i am telling you that i don't know how the rest of mods & smods are going to like this suggestion. Also if you want to give examples of the jutsus you disagree with (before the changes) please do not name their creators.

Also if this gets done, I'm warning you all, no complains about jutsus lost, like some of you are doing now. First you wanted the post count to be eliminated and a fair judgement of the ranks and now you are still complaining -talking in general-.
I understand, I will work on the poll thread.
And, I will be sure to not name the creators.

I also doubt there will be complaints about Jutsus "lost" since its just a temporary measure.
 
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