A>B>C Logic

[KingHashirama]

I always find it funny, that people say A>B>C logic doesn't work in Naruto/One Piece and sometimes in Bleach, even though the fact is A>B>C Logic is usually the driving force in Shonen manga.

Even in their respected universes, strength is based by characters from the A>B>C logic.


See the thing is you look at fights, IF it is going to be a non A>B>C logic fight, then the exceptions are always stated.


SAsuke vs Deidara = Sasuke had the elemental advantage..

Enru vs Luffy = Luffy was rubber..


All those things were stated or shown. A>B>C logic applies unless the exception is stated. A>B>C logic is the base logic of any fighting. However, if the fight is not within the logic it stated so.

 

[Flawž]

A>B>C logic doesn't work in Naruto.

 

[KingHashirama]

A>B>C logic doesn't work in Naruto.

Even though the main character is based off of A>B>C Logic, go wonder.

 

[Lady Tsunade Sama]

A > B > C does work only in dragon ball z

 

[rollin]

That's not a>b>c logic

 

[~Sky~]

So because Hebi Sasuke beat Deidara, would that mean he'd beat Gaara? (See how this works?)

 

[Flawž]

Even though the main character is based off of A>B>C Logic, go wonder.

Most of the time, it doesn't work.

but there are times where it could possibly work.

 

[KingHashirama]

That's not a>b>c logic

Naruto beats Madara, Naruto hence is declared the strongest shinobi = A>B>C Logic. Someone who beats Hashirama in 1 vs 1 is declared the strongest shinobi A>B>C logic.


It is A>B>C logic, unless A>B>C logic has a different meaning.

Most of the time, it doesn't work.

but there are times where it could possibly work.

Naruto is one of those animes. It is a fighting anime. ALL FIGHTING ANIMES (that are pure fighting), are based off of A>B>C logic. Why? Because thats reality.

If you beat me in a fight, and i'm slower and weaker than you.. someone who is weaker and slower than me is not going to beat you, unless you somehow degraded.

So because Hebi Sasuke beat Deidara, would that mean he'd beat Gaara? (See how this works?)

Clearly didn't see the part where I stated, that fight was an "exception" fight where 1 side had an advantage.

 

[rollin]

Naruto beats Madara, Naruto hence is declared the strongest shinobi = A>B>C Logic. Someone who beats Hashirama in 1 vs 1 is declared the strongest shinobi A>B>C logic.


It is A>B>C logic, unless A>B>C logic has a different meaning.

That's not what you said in your thread you said that sasuke and luffy won because they had the elemental advantage that's not a>b>c logic

 

[KingHashirama]

That's not what you said in your thread you said that sasuke and luffy won because they had the elemental advantage that's not a>b>c logic

That was an example of this... "See the thing is you look at fights, IF it is going to be a non A>B>C logic fight, then the exceptions are always stated."

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Apparently you don't understand the fundamentals of A-B-C logic or a itypical shonen manga
Naruto doesn't have the usual power scaling of other shonen manga
This also means you lack any true understanding of the stats in the data book

There not clear cut numbers.
There personal individual stats
And there is 8 main categories
One with a lower overall score doesn't mean they can't beat anyone with a overall higher score it depends on the stats of the individual.

Kisame overall has more chakra,justu,versatility and in his final fight in the manga was on his home turf THE OCEAN.
And he loss.
Why ?
Because Guy had the specific traits that made most of his arsenal irrelevant.

 

[Beauty Busty Beast]

Someone just didn't understand what A>B>C Logic is.

Good luck with this thread.

 

[Allsymbolsparttwo]

good job bro :I wood style the haters

 

[KingHashirama]

Apparently you don't understand the fundamentals of A-B-C logic or a itypical shonen manga
Naruto doesn't have the usual power scaling of other shonen manga
This also means you lack any true understanding of the stats in the data book

There not clear cut numbers.
There personal individual stats
And there is 8 main categories
One with a lower overall score doesn't mean they can't beat anyone with a overall higher score it depends on the stats of the individual.

Kisame overall has more chakra,justu,versatility and in his final fight in the manga was on his home turf THE OCEAN.
And he loss.
Why ?
Because Guy had the specific traits that made most of his arsenal irrelevant.

-Never mentioned Stats.
- Naruto's fighting system is based off of DBZ... pretty sure i understand it.

You are comparing different Kisames. Kisame with Samehada and full chakra in a refreshed state, has more chakra, jutsu, versatility.. in his final fight in the manga he couldn't use of half of his things.

Comparing a character at 2 different times to say A>B>C logic doesn't apply isn't gonna counter it, since A>B>C logic is only counted if the person is at the same power level or increased, while the opponent shows no increase in strength.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

that abc is crazy before the jin mode it was Hashi beats madara madara beats all except hashi

part 1 sasuke beats naruto naruto beats gaara gaara beats sasuke

 

[KingHashirama]

that abc is crazy before the jin mode it was Hashi beats madara madara beats all except hashi

part 1 sasuke beats naruto naruto beats gaara gaara beats sasuke

Reread the thread, "exceptions are stated"... the VOTE battle of Naruto vs Sasuke was an exception, due to the fact Naruto chose to lose the fight.

However, you are also comparing characters at 2 different times periods. Was the Naruto who faced Sasuke the same as the one who fought Gaara? no.. To use the A>B>C logic you must have the character at the same power level he was against the other person.


Base Hashirama > MS Madara and hence , Base Hashirama > MS Izuna.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Reread the thread, "exceptions are stated"... the VOTE battle of Naruto vs Sasuke was an exception, due to the fact Naruto chose to lose the fight.

However, you are also comparing characters at 2 different times periods. Was the Naruto who faced Sasuke the same as the one who fought Gaara? no.. To use the A>B>C logic you must have the character at the same power level he was against the other person.


Base Hashirama > MS Madara and hence , Base Hashirama > MS Izuna.

sasuke that fought gaara stomps naruto idk why kishi got rid of taijutsu sasuke

 

[KingHashirama]

sasuke that fought gaara stomps naruto idk why kishi got rid of taijutsu sasuke

Only problem is he doesn't... Sasuke himself acknowledged Naruto as his superior when Naruto was facing Gaara.. saying anything against it is going against Sasuke himself.

 

[Flawž]

Naruto is one of those animes. It is a fighting anime. ALL FIGHTING ANIMES (that are pure fighting), are based off of A>B>C logic. Why? Because thats reality.

If you beat me in a fight, and i'm slower and weaker than you.. someone who is weaker and slower than me is not going to beat you, unless you somehow degraded.

Naruto is not just about fighting, It's about abilities and techniques people use.

Abilities naturally have weaknesses towards different techniques.

Fire > Plant > Water > Fire

 

[KingHashirama]

Naruto is not just about fighting, It's about abilities and techniques people use.

Abilities naturally have weaknesses towards different techniques.

Fire > Plant > Water > Fire

And so is dragonballz.

They do have weaknesses. However, Madara (Katon) > Tobirama (suiton). The elemental battle in Naruto is about who has more power in their jutsu going back again to A>B>C logic.