9th and 10th Nakamas???

[Migualon J.J.]

i can see Akainu kicking Boa Hancock out of Shichibukai and her joining Luffy´s crew xd easy as it is xd and Jinbei

(seriously, i want Hancock to join xd)

 

[Hyperion]

i can see Akainu kicking Boa Hancock out of Shichibukai and her joining Luffy´s crew xd easy as it is xd and Jinbei

(seriously, i want Hancock to join xd)

What use would she be?
She has her own Pirate Crew.

 

[EternalMangekyouRinnegan]

Please continue.. Tell me why youre mad..



Vivi promised to join the next time she meet with the Strawhats. If she really does join im sure Oda will create a purpose for her.

We will have to wait and see what happens in the future

Basicly, you have no decent reason for her to join except for that symbolic promise she made to Straw Hats about two years ago, which has no real meaning, unlike Jinbe who was about to join but temporaly refused because he had bussiness to finish and he didn't want to involve Straw Hats in this.

With Jinbe it's clear. We know he will finish his job and join Straw Hats, with Vivi it's unclear. She might join based on her promise, she might not if they never meet or she decides not to. These are two different situations.

Does this look like she's going to become a pirate?

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She even says it herself. She is a friend, not a crewmember. She's like a honorary member or an ally and this role fits her just right.

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Frankly, she can't put up with Straw Hats anymore and even Oda won't make it happen. This isn't Naruto with asspulls on every corner.

i can see Akainu kicking Boa Hancock out of Shichibukai and her joining Luffy´s crew xd easy as it is xd and Jinbei

(seriously, i want Hancock to join xd)

Akainu can't do a thing about it. The Shicibukai are working for World Government.

She wasn't kicked after two year timeskip. Shicibukai balance is already disturbed, kicking her out right now is like kicking yourself in nuts.

She can't join Straw Hats. She has her own pirate crew and she's an empress of her kingdom. She would have to protect Amazon Lily from the marines if she would be kicked from Shichibukai.

 

[s0ulja]

I already stated that her purpose would maybe be cleaning. But it could turn out to be something we didnt expect or nothing at all. Did you expect ussop yo be the sharpshooter of the crew? Did you expect robin to be the history teacher of the crew? Hell what purpose does zoro fulfill crew wise besides fighting? All he does is sleep, train and gets lost. You arguement on asking what point would she serve is invalid.

2 years ago compared to all the strawhats she was weak. But that was 2 years ago and theres alot of possibilities that she gotten alot stronger. She could be a df user, use the 6 powers of cp9, haki, have impact dials, became a swordsmen, a sharpshooter or learned fishmen karate. But anyways even if she was still weak as shit she would find a way just like ussop and nami who werent physically strong as the others always found a way!

Her saying she would join next time asked is no different than jinbe promising he would join next time asked. So if what she said was symbolic than what jinbe said is also symbolic. But if jinbe is meant to join because he promised than vivi is also cuz she promised too and before jinbe did. You arguement about it being a symbolic is invalid

Yea and vivi can bring expereince as a baroque assaisin with her. Also whos to say vivi never been to the new world? Where did you read that?



Yea well judging by somethings said like the old supernovas were making names of themselves while luffy and sh were training and that kidd sunk 2 of Moms ships, i figured the supernovas gotten pretty strong. But eh you wanna underestimate em ok. Cuz luffy is just gunna go to NW with no problems or conflicta and make the story real boring huh. Thats what you expect

And besides theres more than the supernovas, theres the yonkos, marines and some more crazy stuff we dont know yet.



Actually the whitebeard crew werent weak, maybe weak compared to the commanders but thats cuz the commanders like marco and jaws were strong as hell. So you expect marco to abandon his crew to join luffy? Really?



I agree... -_____-



Yes because luffy is aware of all the famous and powerful people. Thats why luffy knew who dragon was, oh wait he didnt, robin and garp had to explain. Oh wait luffy knew whitebeard right? Oh no ace told him.

Anyways what you said is just invalid. Sabo could be strong pirate but unknown just like blackbeard was really strong but unknowned. Blackbeard seemed weak and had a 30 mill bounty but he beat ace, became a shishibaki (spelling) and now is a yonko

-cleaning? thats the best you could come up with? if they needed a cleaner they would have got the soap lady from cp9:flaw:
nami's primary role is to navigate(arguably the best in the world)..weather witch is a 2ndry role
ussop was a sharpshooter from when he was introduced so obviously thats the role he wil perform in the crew
robin does not give history lessons, shes very smart has plenty of experience and is the only person in the world that can read the ancient writings as far as we know theres her purpose
zoro's useless? his a swordsman of the crew, fighting is specialty yes, did u forget they're are pirates? they are going to fight not pick flowers from the garden. and having the future strongest swordsman is not useless
..u come up wit a role as a cleaner and ur calling my reasons invalid?

2yrs ago she was weak..2 yrs after shes is 648468946984365498468x weaker. why? while they were training she was playing princess

nami's role is to navigate not fight...weather witch is her 2ndory role
ussop is a coward and physicali weak but his shooting skills are top notch, not to mention his father is with shanks crew
so no they dont need the best cleaner in the world b'cuz frankie takes care of that

jinbe is a former warlord, one of the strongest physical fighters in one piece, knows the new world very well, is a fishman he has a lot more to offer to SH's than a cleaner does.

LOL what rank was she? new world? seriously? crocodile moved to the grand line to start his movement and get hold of pluton, vivi ran away from home and infiltrated the organization to discover how was behind the rain issue. i.e shes wasn't in the new world

making names for themselves? whats that got to do with aokiji? ..anyways ok he sunk two ships? big deal zoro (not even luffy) sliced up a ship without any effort so thats not a big deal. yes the others would have gotten stronger but not as strong as luffy. since the whole reason rayleigh trained luffy was so he can challenge the likes of admirals is he was preparing luffy for that sort of training..the supernovas are no match

i said his the most likeli candidate depending on the situation of WB pirates. go back and re-read... and besides their commanders the rest were weak.

there u go again..go back and re-read what i wrote. i said even if luffy didn hear about him..ace would have. sabo was as strong as ace, if ace could become 2nd commander of the strongest crew in the world..ace would hav had equivalent fame. so he def is not a pirate. the only explanation is his wit RA that is if his alive
blackbeard was not unknown to the one piece world..he wasn unkwn to the SH's b'cuz they are from east blue

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2.SH's DON'T NEED A CLEANER

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

Basicly, you have no decent reason for her to join except for that symbolic promise she made to Straw Hats about two years ago, which has no real meaning, unlike Jinbe who was about to join but temporaly refused because he had bussiness to finish and he didn't want to involve Straw Hats in this.

With Jinbe it's clear. We know he will finish his job and join Straw Hats, with Vivi it's unclear. She might join based on her promise, she might not if they never meet or she decides not to. These are two different situations.

Does this look like she's going to become a pirate?

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She even says it herself. She is a friend, not a crewmember. She's like a honorary member or an ally and this role fits her just right.

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Frankly, she can't put up with Straw Hats anymore and even Oda won't make it happen. This isn't Naruto with asspulls on every corner.

the fact that she promised to join the SH the next time she met with them is the only proof i need. friends, crew members, family etc all mean nakama.

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so whether she said friend or crew member basically means the same thing. jibe and vivi both promised to join when they meet the SH again. theres no difference betwwen the 2 promises. and im pretty sure you help Oda write one piece huh... riight

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this page says it all. the pages you posted was how she felt right after the civil war in her country ended. of course as princess she would stay to help rebuild the country. but after all that was said she asked to join the next time they met. and the strawhats respond with this

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its a quit but sure enough its a yes. they couldnt verbalize it cuz the presence of the marines but the symbol on their arms represented they would accept her cuz they are friends and nakamas. nobody here is asspulling but you and this debate is over between us cuz i already know you wont agree with any of this despite how logical and reasonable it is. no matter how much i spoon feed you the facts and even show clear evidence from the manga itself you will ignore it and spew out garbage nonsense. so have fun argueing with yourself..

-cleaning? thats the best you could come up with? if they needed a cleaner they would have got the soap lady from cp9:flaw:

it was just an idea. Oda can come up with whatever or come up with nothing at all. like i said before what is zoros purpose besides fighting? there is a big difference between kalifa and vivi. kalifa did not create a bonding friendship with them, viv did. kalifa wasnt promised to join nor asked to join. viv was and was. kalifa did not promise to join in the future. viv did.

nami's primary role is to navigate(arguably the best in the world)..weather witch is a 2ndry role
ussop was a sharpshooter from when he was introduced so obviously thats the role he wil perform in the crew
robin does not give history lessons, shes very smart has plenty of experience and is the only person in the world that can read the ancient writings as far as we know theres her purpose
zoro's useless? his a swordsman of the crew, fighting is specialty yes, did u forget they're are pirates? they are going to fight not pick flowers from the garden. and having the future strongest swordsman is not useless
..u come up wit a role as a cleaner and ur calling my reasons invalid?

besides fighting what is zoros use. when it comes to the ship what is his purpose? i already stated he can fight. is english your 2nd or 3rd language sir? how about your reading comprehension?

2yrs ago she was weak..2 yrs after shes is 648468946984365498468x weaker. why? while they were training she was playing princess
are u f**king retarded?

yes 2 years ago she was weak. i stated this before. were you able to read that with your inferior reading level? i will post pictures for you next time ok??

and i guess you missed the part where vivi became an assaisin huh? tsk tsk tsk.

nami's role is to navigate not fight...weather witch is her 2ndory role
ussop is a coward and physicali weak but his shooting skills are top notch, not to mention his father is with shanks crew
so no they dont need the best cleaner in the world b'cuz frankie takes care of that

yes nami still fights nontheless and so does ussop. or are you going to argue that nami and ussop do not fight? when nami was introduced she was fighting with a pole and ussop was using his slingshot. are you going to argue that too?

franky builds and repairs. please provide a link where you have ever seen him clean...

jinbe is a former warlord, one of the strongest physical fighters in one piece, knows the new world very well, is a fishman he has a lot more to offer to SH's than a cleaner does.

thank you for stating the obvious.

LOL what rank was she? new world? seriously? crocodile moved to the grand line to start his movement and get hold of pluton, vivi ran away from home and infiltrated the organization to discover how was behind the rain issue. i.e shes wasn't in the new world

please post a link that says she was never in the new world.. thank you

making names for themselves? whats that got to do with aokiji? ..anyways ok he sunk two ships? big deal zoro (not even luffy) sliced up a ship without any effort so thats not a big deal. yes the others would have gotten stronger but not as strong as luffy. since the whole reason rayleigh trained luffy was so he can challenge the likes of admirals is he was preparing luffy for that sort of training..the supernovas are no match

please provide a link where it shows the supernovas did not progress over the 2 years... thank you

i said his the most likeli candidate depending on the situation of WB pirates. go back and re-read... and besides their commanders the rest were weak.

yes cuz it would be very logical for the commanders to leave their crew right??? :|

there u go again..go back and re-read what i wrote. i said even if luffy didn hear about him..ace would have. sabo was as strong as ace, if ace could become 2nd commander of the strongest crew in the world..ace would hav had equivalent fame. so he def is not a pirate. the only explanation is his wit RA that is if his alive
blackbeard was not unknown to the one piece world..he wasn unkwn to the SH's b'cuz they are from east blue

please provide a link that shows Sabo is not known

and your argueing pointless shit now...

IN CONCLUSION
1.LEARN TO READ FULL COMMENTS NOT JUST THE BITS AND PIECES YOU WOULD LIKE TO
2.SH's DON'T NEED A CLEANER

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follow your own advice.. thank you..

lastly im not saying vivi will join for sure. idk if even jinbe will join for sure. im just saying that it is possible for vivi to be the 9th or 10th member of the strawhats because she made a promise to join them the next time they met. can you provide anything that disprove this fact? you saying she has no purpose tothe strawhats does not disprove the fact that the promise to join was made, Luffy asked her to join! if right now there is no clear purpose for her to join the SH than Oda will make a purpose in the future. if you respond to anything respond to this last paragraph... prove that vivi will not keep her promise of joining in the future. or prove that the Strawhats will not want her to join or ask her to join again.

 

[EternalMangekyouRinnegan]

the fact that she promised to join the SH the next time she met with them is the only proof i need. friends, crew members, family etc all mean nakama.

Enough proof for yourself? Yes, but not for others. You were trying to convince us, not yourself. Why make this thread and argue with people if you can't come up with any decent arguments?

so whether she said friend or crew member basically means the same thing. jibe and vivi both promised to join when they meet the SH again. theres no difference betwwen the 2 promises. and im pretty sure you help Oda write one piece huh... riight

No, it's not the same thing and I already explained it. Should I dumb it down to kindergarden level so you could understand?

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this page says it all. the pages you posted was how she felt right after the civil war in her country ended. of course as princess she would stay to help rebuild the country. but after all that was said she asked to join the next time they met. and the strawhats respond with this

It wasn't this specific. She asked whether they would take her in as a friend if they ever meet again. She asked it to reassure herself whether they are still friends despite her refusal to join. Basicly she asked "Will we still be friends after this?".
But, hey, keep milking your pathetic excuse, it's the only thing you still got in this debate.

nobody here is asspulling but you and this debate is over between us cuz i already know you wont agree with any of this despite how logical and reasonable it is.

It's cool that you think so but it's far from reasonable and logical, I wouldn't bother to argue if it was.

if you respond to anything respond to this last paragraph... prove that vivi will not keep her promise of joining in the future. or prove that the Strawhats will not want her to join or ask her to join again.

The only place they could meet up is Majories during the Reverie. It's not a secret that it will be heavily guarded since all of the worlds monarchs will be gathering there. It will be miracle if Straw Hats actually make it to there but if they do make it and meet up with Vivi, yes, Luffy will let her in IF she asks to join. Simply, because he would never brake a promise to her.
Tho, Oda won't make it happen. She might be a temporaly nakama during this Reverie arc (like she was during the Baroque Works arc) and she will always be their ally but she will never be a pemanent nakama.

and i guess you missed the part where vivi became an assaisin huh? tsk tsk tsk.

And a very good one

no matter how much i spoon feed you the facts and even show clear evidence from the manga itself you will ignore it and spew out garbage nonsense. so have fun argueing with yourself..

Facts? I think you haven't learn in the school what does a word 'singular' means because you only had one and that was a weak point.

The only garbage here is you and your so called points or facts. You never change. Always using the same shit over and over and over and over again in the same thread. You grab on to something and you try to win an argument with it.
Better call your boyfriend to here because you won't achieve anything here with these petty methods besides making a fool out of yourself.


Now STFU and GTFO since I already know EXACTLY what crap you will be spewing out of your mouth.

 

[s0ulja]

it was just an idea. Oda can come up with whatever or come up with nothing at all. like i said before what is zoros purpose besides fighting? there is a big difference between kalifa and vivi. kalifa did not create a bonding friendship with them, viv did. kalifa wasnt promised to join nor asked to join. viv was and was. kalifa did not promise to join in the future. viv did.

besides fighting what is zoros use. when it comes to the ship what is his purpose? i already stated he can fight. is english your 2nd or 3rd language sir? how about your reading comprehension?

yes 2 years ago she was weak. i stated this before. were you able to read that with your inferior reading level? i will post pictures for you next time ok??

and i guess you missed the part where vivi became an assaisin huh? tsk tsk tsk.

yes nami still fights nontheless and so does ussop. or are you going to argue that nami and ussop do not fight? when nami was introduced she was fighting with a pole and ussop was using his slingshot. are you going to argue that too?

franky builds and repairs. please provide a link where you have ever seen him clean...

thank you for stating the obvious.

please post a link that says she was never in the new world.. thank you

please provide a link where it shows the supernovas did not progress over the 2 years... thank you

yes cuz it would be very logical for the commanders to leave their crew right??? :|

please provide a link that shows Sabo is not known

and your argueing pointless shit now...

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lastly im not saying vivi will join for sure. idk if even jinbe will join for sure. im just saying that it is possible for vivi to be the 9th or 10th member of the strawhats because she made a promise to join them the next time they met. can you provide anything that disprove this fact? you saying she has no purpose tothe strawhats does not disprove the fact that the promise to join was made, Luffy asked her to join! if right now there is no clear purpose for her to join the SH than Oda will make a purpose in the future. if you respond to anything respond to this last paragraph... prove that vivi will not keep her promise of joining in the future. or prove that the Strawhats will not want her to join or ask her to join again.

yer an im telling u its a stupid idea..oda isnt as stupid as u. the crew needs a fighter they dont need a cleaner. zoro's 2nd role is to keep watch form his tower. luffy makes special bond with everyone he meets, mihawk acknowledged this to be more dangerous than DF, are u saying all on OP characters will join his crew? invest a bit of thought b4 u speak

he was hired to fight..why would he need to do anything else? his the muscle of the crew. just to make u happy oda made him keep watch

yes ofcuz i forgot over the 2 years she got a devil fruit, and joined the cp9 and developed her haki..what other power did u decide to give her?...that too
:flaw:
She didnt become an assassin..she pretended to be one to find out who was behind framing her father

yes nami fights..what will vivi do? watch?
do even know what ur agruing? yes nami n ussop fights..vivi can't fight??
he maintains the ship...cleaning is part of that. but i guess a retard like u wudn know that

well ppl like u struggle to even understand the ovbious, glad ur making progress
keep it up and u'l also understand SH's don't need a cleaner

u find the links urself..its on wiki, track crocodiles movements and track vivi's movements, i understand im asking something that is beyond ur intelligence but its good practice for u

i guess expecting u to demonstrate common sense is too much

 

[alipjana]

well im not sure about the manga but in the anime he said at 'least' 10, so he could have more.
-vivi...wont join. she's needed by her country more and can't improve the SH in any way
-jinbe...is strong but since he declined i don't see him joining, more of an ally
-kuma.no
-aokiji...even though i'd like to see that, and he has a soft spot of luffy his way too strong. would make SH overpowered.
-sabo..no, his proli dead and if not then his with the RA, they decided wen dey wer lil dey wont be each others crew members
-coby...no, his dream is to become an admiral

from the characters we've seen already the most probably candidate is marco, his strong but not too strong, he wants to revenge WB and Ace, and the only crew that is going to go up against BB is SH. though this depends on the situation with WB pirates...my guess is they are finished since BB took over all their territories n if BB is hunting down rare DF's marco's on his cross-hair

i would say mr 3, but it seems his with buggy

personally i'd like to see a proper sniper, not some long nose with a sling shot..or giv him a gun or something

u r sayn marco is not strong????r u freakin kiddin me!!!..read the op wiki and also read the manga..he was able to batlle an admiral 1 on 1 without getting overpowered...

 

[alipjana]

yer an im telling u its a stupid idea..oda isnt as stupid as u. the crew needs a fighter they dont need a cleaner. zoro's 2nd role is to keep watch form his tower. luffy makes special bond with everyone he meets, mihawk acknowledged this to be more dangerous than DF, are u saying all on OP characters will join his crew? invest a bit of thought b4 u speak

he was hired to fight..why would he need to do anything else? his the muscle of the crew. just to make u happy oda made him keep watch

yes ofcuz i forgot over the 2 years she got a devil fruit, and joined the cp9 and developed her haki..what other power did u decide to give her?...that too
:flaw:
She didnt become an assassin..she pretended to be one to find out who was behind framing her father

yes nami fights..what will vivi do? watch?
do even know what ur agruing? yes nami n ussop fights..vivi can't fight??
he maintains the ship...cleaning is part of that. but i guess a retard like u wudn know that

well ppl like u struggle to even understand the ovbious, glad ur making progress
keep it up and u'l also understand SH's don't need a cleaner

u find the links urself..its on wiki, track crocodiles movements and track vivi's movements, i understand im asking something that is beyond ur intelligence but its good practice for u

i guess expecting u to demonstrate common sense is too much

lol..but 2ru...

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

yer an im telling u its a stupid idea..oda isnt as stupid as u. the crew needs a fighter they dont need a cleaner. zoro's 2nd role is to keep watch form his tower. luffy makes special bond with everyone he meets, mihawk acknowledged this to be more dangerous than DF, are u saying all on OP characters will join his crew? invest a bit of thought b4 u speak

he was hired to fight..why would he need to do anything else? his the muscle of the crew. just to make u happy oda made him keep watch

yes ofcuz i forgot over the 2 years she got a devil fruit, and joined the cp9 and developed her haki..what other power did u decide to give her?...that too
:flaw:
She didnt become an assassin..she pretended to be one to find out who was behind framing her father

yes nami fights..what will vivi do? watch?
do even know what ur agruing? yes nami n ussop fights..vivi can't fight??
he maintains the ship...cleaning is part of that. but i guess a retard like u wudn know that

well ppl like u struggle to even understand the ovbious, glad ur making progress
keep it up and u'l also understand SH's don't need a cleaner

u find the links urself..its on wiki, track crocodiles movements and track vivi's movements, i understand im asking something that is beyond ur intelligence but its good practice for u

i guess expecting u to demonstrate common sense is too much

Lmfaooooo its funny cuz you argue about the most pointless stuff and you think you sound smart but you look sooo stupid.

Idk what purpose vivi would serve. She could serve as a maid. Thats just a guess i could be wrong. But her serving a purpose does not matter. What matter is she made a promise to join. This promise wasnt symbolic or fake or anything. Besides its luffy and the sh who asked and wanted her to join! Do you think that when they meet again vivi is going to decline even tho she promised to join again? Do you think the sh will not want her even though they asked her to join? Do you think they will refuse to let her join?

And zoro purpose is not watching the tower lol. Anybody can do that. It doesnt take a skill to watch from the tower. Robin has done that. Zoro purpose if anything is to fight. He doesnt have a double purpose on the ship like everyone else. Everyone else fights and holds a specific job with specific skills.

And if oda would have vivi join than he would create her with a purpose or give her abilities that would make her able to fight along side the sh.

Vivi wasnt pretending to being an assaisin lol. How can you pretend to be an assaisin and yet become the top 12? Yes she was an undercover spy but she infiltrated the bw and was strong enough to gain rank in the top 12

If you cant provife links to support your arguements than what you say holds no wieght, no credibility. It means nothing, your blowing hot air and pulling shit out ya ass. Lol

Anyways this arguement has been over. Please prove that vivi will not keep her promise about joining sh or prove that the sh will refuse letting her join. I aske you this before and you ignored it. Is english your 2nd language?

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[EternalMangekyouRinnegan]

And if oda would have vivi join than he would create her with a purpose or give her abilities that would make her able to fight along side the sh.

Vivi wasnt pretending to being an assaisin lol. How can you pretend to be an assaisin and yet become the top 12? Yes she was an undercover spy but she infiltrated the bw and was strong enough to gain rank in the top 12

You are so horrible, just go back to Naruto section already.

 

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umm due no offence but she was nt in top 12 but rather partner of no 9.The barque works org was based on strongest ppl who were numbered and then their partners were choosen who complimented their fighting style...U_U

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

umm due no offence but she was nt in top 12 but rather partner of no 9.The barque works org was based on strongest ppl who were numbered and then their partners were choosen who complimented their fighting style...U_U

That is proving my point. How can she compliment Mr 9 if she wasnt skilled and strong enough to do so? Out of all the hundereds of bw agents she was able to partner up with Mr 9.

No offense taken tho man lol

 

[Hyperion]

That is proving my point. How can she compliment Mr 9 if she wasnt skilled and strong enough to do so? Out of all the hundereds of bw agents she was able to partner up with Mr 9.

No offense taken tho man lol

Do you think she is viable for the 10th seat just because of her feats in Baroque Works?
That's pushing it.
She wouldn't be strong enough for Skypiea, Ennies Lobby or Thriller Bark imo.
There's a reason why she stayed in Alabasta.

She'd just weigh the crew down if she joined them in the NW.

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

Do you think she is viable for the 10th seat just because of her feats in Baroque Works?
That's pushing it.
She wouldn't be strong enough for Skypiea, Ennies Lobby or Thriller Bark imo.
There's a reason why she stayed in Alabasta.

She'd just weigh the crew down if she joined them in the NW.

no i think shes viable for the 10th seat cuz she made a promise to join in the future and the SH wanted her to join..

agreed there is a reason she stayed, she wasnt strong as any of them before timeskip..

nothing is to say she would have gotten alot stronger over the 2 years.. look how nami, ussop and chopper improved.. matter fact look how Cody improved and hes not even a SH.. he improved alot from the Morgan ark to the end of Ennies Lobby.

 

[Hyperion]

no i think shes viable for the 10th seat cuz she made a promise to join in the future and the SH wanted her to join..

agreed there is a reason she stayed, she wasnt strong as any of them before timeskip..

nothing is to say she would have gotten alot stronger over the 2 years.. look how nami, ussop and chopper improved.. matter fact look how Cody improved and hes not even a SH.. he improved alot from the Morgan ark to the end of Ennies Lobby.

When you last saw Vivi was she training like Coby? No.

 

[Boa Hancock]

When you last saw Vivi was she training like Coby? No.

Cover your bases dude. We never saw Smoker train too, is he weaker than Coby? Sorry, I just had to do it.

 

[Hyperion]

Cover your bases dude. We never saw Smoker train too, is he weaker than Coby? Sorry, I just had to do it.

That's cool...

But you know Marines don't stay idle. Vivi however was last shown... Well you get it.

 

[EternalMangekyouRinnegan]

Cover your bases dude. We never saw Smoker train too, is he weaker than Coby? Sorry, I just had to do it.

Smoker has been kicking pirate asses for two years at one of the most toughest places in the New World. He's promoted to VA's which suggests he even has learnt Haki.
He fought someone strong enough to give him scars. What was Vivi doing when we last saw her? Cleaning toilets and shoping with her bird. I am sure that will make her strong enough to compete with the strongest pirates in the world

 

[Boa Hancock]

Smoker has been kicking pirate asses for two years at one of the most toughest places in the New World. He's promoted to VA's which suggests he even has learnt Haki.
He fought someone strong enough to give him scars. What was Vivi doing when we last saw her? Cleaning toilets and shoping with her bird. I am sure that will make her strong enough to compete with the strongest pirates in the world

I'm gonna be freaked out if that scar came from Hina at bed. xd