8th Gated Gai is at least equal to Tailed beast mode Naruto [manga fact]

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Hello guys, I would to talk about hype behind 8th Gate, and how it compares to current top tiers. After the lastest chapter many people believe that 8th gated gai is close, match or even surprass Ten tails host Madara. Actually the sheer alone fact that 8th gate is comparable to Ten tails host sounds laughable and very ridiculous.

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^^ Gai was close to use 8th Gated Gai when he along with Kakashi get surronded by Tailed beasts under control of Obito readly to launch 5 TBB at them point blank.

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^^ BM Naruto easily replied all of TBB at the same time, which looked like he just used sheer amount of speed to do that.


Many people also have short memory, as They forgot how powerfull become BSM Naruto:

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^^ When Naruto decided to add Natue energy and infuse it into TBB, then Obito finally went serious and stopped playing around or testing his powers:

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Might Guy has yet to do something which forces Madara to act serious:
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^^ Might Guy hit Madara hard, well Naruto also slammed Obito hard:
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I think the situations look alike ;).

Until now Madara was testing his powers and slightly increased his power while treating Gai more and more seriously:
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^^ Now Madara will either beat Gai by raising his power beyond Gai's limit or he will go all out and neg diff Gai.




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^^ SM Hashirama compared his own chakra amount to Naruto then corrected himself that Naruto has much more raw power due to Nine tails chakra being mixed with his own.

My top 5(excluding Sage, his mother and Edo Tensei)

1. Ten tails host Madara
2. Ten tails host Obito
3. SM Hashirama/ BSM Naruto
4. 8th Gated Gai
5. EMS Sasuke(Bm Naruto)

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No I disagree with you. Might guy is extremely powerful right now. I don't necesarily think he is stronger than juubidara but I think he is significantly more powerful than naruto or hashirama.

This is how my top 5 goes...

1. Madara(ten tails)
2. Might Guy(eight gates)
3. Obito (ten tails)
4. Hashirama
5 Naruto (BSM)
 

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Not a fact either That BSM nardo > 8 gates gai



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they have both Pushed The Jùbi Jins to a Limit where they had to go serious. But Gai did the MostSTuff alone wasn't it for the last part, thats why i Put Hima bove BSM nardo and Because he has More raw power next to TBB for naruto.

i dnt belive bsm naruto can kill 8 gates gai but i do understand that gai has to go into the 8th gate just to beat naruto and thats a automatic death for gai so any shinobi that forces gai to the 8th gate is his equal technically those who can survive the onslaught of the 8th gate are greater than gai but we dnt exactly knw who those shinobi could be...
 

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technically gai would have died in his 7th gate form but minato saved him from the black orb so if it were not for minato intervening then u nor i would even be able to see the 8th gate power and minato saved gai again from several black orbs which if they had hit would mean gai would have only hit Madara that 1 time.


then we have to take in mind madara said " can u still dance? do u have more techniques?, and i want to have some more fun "... those can be interpreted as madara toying around with gai just to see the full extent of the 8 gates power but...
lee saved gai not minato, when minato jumped the black orbs he told guy to keep attacking no matter what. Guy could have easily dodge and proved he was faster than it before. Gai hit madara 5 times before madara could do anything go reread the chapter.

Hid an laughed when his head was cut off, doesn't mean it was ineffective the guy is crazy. Don't you remember the face him made when hashirama was revived? Madara wants a challenge and he is getting one and loving it as$$kicked or not he wants to fight worthy opponents and so far only gai has fulfilled
 
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like seriously,some guys are rlly stupid.if naruto and gai fought,both of them would have demolished eachother with gai going 8 gates and landing more hits on naruto.but after some minutes when gai is spent,and he convulses and dies due to the evaporation of his blood,naruto's already impressive healing factor kicks into overdrive due to BSM.
 

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your list is pretty spot on but i tend to put gai in the top 10 but not top 5 because anybody in top 10 could push him to the 8th gate and that counts as an automatic win for them because he dies automatically and some of the top 10 shinobi could beat him while he's in one of the lower gates before he goes into the 8th gate...but nonetheless he is top 10


also i do not agree that bsm naruto= hashirama...mokuton > bijuu power

it wouldnt make sense for a shinobi that has mokuton to be equal to someone that has bijuu power, i dnt think hashirama would need to go into sm to beat naruto...hashirama has too many jutsu to subdue and neutralize naruto's jutsu and naruto would lose chakra from using jutsu and from mokuton chakra absorbing abilities...im almost certain naruto and sasuke are equals and are right under hashirama and ems madara but they are just 16-17 years old they will surpass everybody soon or later...

Thanks ! I also believe that BM Naruto would loose even to Base Hashirama due to Hashirama having perfect means to beat Naruto while Naruto has only raw power above Hashirama.

However BSM Naruto could be clearly other stuff, as manga has never shown for Gedo mazou's chains or Mokuton to work on BSM, just pure BM chakra.

About Gai, I know he would die but I am putting him that high only for brief short amount of time, but still he deserves it.

So madara saying if I get hit with 4-5 of those hits I'll be in trouble wasn't serious? Hashi lost to pre juubi madara, while gai
is kicking madaras tail. Obito was much more incomplete than madara, if he was fighting Gai, gai would probably win especially knowing he lost to a sword stab.

1) Yes even although Madara mentioned being in danger still he didn't feel directly endangered to even trying to attack Gai or powering up, usling all possible powers. Instead he just decided to test his durability and Ten tails hosts' powers more

It was : Serious going all out TTH Madara > getting serious not going all out TTH Madara > playing around not going all out TTHMadara

@bold part is your asnwer.

2) Pre Juubi aka Blind Madara didn't easily finish Hashirama as you said. Madara only used ealier impaled in his fight as Edo against Edo hashirama black rods to suprass his powers and control him to steal Sage mode. in Direct Battle Madara would loose clearly. SM one eyed Rinnegan Madara is debetable with Madara winining more times, double Rinnegan SM Madara would win for sure.

3) Serious Ten tails Host Obito would finish Gai in no time, 8th gate or no.
You clearly understimate amazing power of Ten tails hosts.

Bro. Don't let your Jimmies be rustled
tell me when BSM nardo can do this alone to a Jùbi jin
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^^ BSM Naruto didn't have enough time to fully show his powers against Ten tails host Obito. The alone evidence that Naruto adding nature energy into TBB made Obito acting serious and feeling in danger would enough prove to show how powerfull BSM Naruto can be.

If 8th Gated Gai do same damage to serious TTH Madara then I will admit you are right, else BSM Naruto would also deal huge damage using Madara's cocky attitue and like to playing around with victim before finishing it.
 

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Does every tard here seem to forget that kakashi and Minato allowed gai to get his last hit in? yea k. He would have died to those black orbs
 

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8th gate gai is stronger than bsm naruto because he and the other tail beast got soloed by reg Madara with one rinnegan eye while gai been kicking Madara Jin azz so I don't understand why the hate for gai lol is it because he can beat your fav characters now?? Smh
 

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i dnt belive bsm naruto can kill 8 gates gai but i do understand that gai has to go into the 8th gate just to beat naruto and thats a automatic death for gai so any shinobi that forces gai to the 8th gate is his equal technically those who can survive the onslaught of the 8th gate are greater than gai but we dnt exactly knw who those shinobi could be...
I Know BSM nardo Wins if Guy Doesn't Go 8 Gates i mean. who didn't knew this. I'm Just saying if we have seen all this. how can you still Put BSM nardo above 8Gates gai.

however Naruto's Strongest attack (TBB) got Blocked by a Weaker Version of Jùbi jin (obito)
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we naruto has nothing On air. guy has.

Gai can actually counter the black Shield
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well gai Can kick in air and can comPete W/ someone who is flying. naruto has to Glide and wait for the right moment.
 

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Thanks ! I also believe that BM Naruto would loose even to Base Hashirama due to Hashirama having perfect means to beat Naruto while Naruto has only raw power above Hashirama.

However BSM Naruto could be clearly other stuff, as manga has never shown for Gedo mazou's chains or Mokuton to work on BSM, just pure BM chakra.

About Gai, I know he would die but I am putting him that high only for brief short amount of time, but still he deserves it.



1) Yes even although Madara mentioned being in danger still he didn't feel directly endangered to even trying to attack Gai or powering up, usling all possible powers. Instead he just decided to test his durability and Ten tails hosts' powers more

It was : Serious going all out TTH Madara > getting serious not going all out TTH Madara > playing around not going all out TTHMadara

@bold part is your asnwer.

2) Pre Juubi aka Blind Madara didn't easily finish Hashirama as you said. Madara only used ealier impaled in his fight as Edo against Edo hashirama black rods to suprass his powers and control him to steal Sage mode. in Direct Battle Madara would loose clearly. SM one eyed Rinnegan Madara is debetable with Madara winining more times, double Rinnegan SM Madara would win for sure.

3) Serious Ten tails Host Obito would finish Gai in no time, 8th gate or no.
You clearly understimate amazing power of Ten tails hosts.



^^ BSM Naruto didn't have enough time to fully show his powers against Ten tails host Obito. The alone evidence that Naruto adding nature energy into TBB made Obito acting serious and feeling in danger would enough prove to show how powerfull BSM Naruto can be.

If 8th Gated Gai do same damage to serious TTH Madara then I will admit you are right, else BSM Naruto would also deal huge damage using Madara's cocky attitue and like to playing around with victim before finishing it.

Naruto went full power w/ Sauce
 

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lee saved gai not minato, when minato jumped the black orbs he told guy to keep attacking no matter what. Guy could have easily dodge and proved he was faster than it before. Gai hit madara 5 times before madara could do anything go reread the chapter.

lee threw the kunai minato teleported to it and took the direct impact of the black orbs so minato saved gai...gai never proved he was faster than the black orbs, he was saved twice from them...manga fact
 

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Does every tard here seem to forget that kakashi and Minato allowed gai to get his last hit in? yea k. He would have died to those black orbs

Does every tard here not read minato telling Gai to not worry about dodging them and keep attacking no matter what? Do they also forget Gai broke through Madaras shield therefore not needing kakashi? Go reread the chapter, calling people tards because you missed what we saw gtfo.
 

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Does every tard here seem to forget that kakashi and Minato allowed gai to get his last hit in? yea k. He would have died to those black orbs

Does every tard here not read minato telling Gai to not worry about dodging them and keep attacking no matter what? Do they also forget Gai broke through Madaras shield therefore not needing kakashi? Go reread the chapter, calling people tards because you missed what we saw gtfo.
 

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lee threw the kunai minato teleported to it and took the direct impact of the black orbs so minato saved gai...gai never proved he was faster than the black orbs, he was saved twice from them...manga fact

I was talking about the 7th gate clash, Gain didn' need minato and minato was not trying to save him he was trying to get the orbs way from madara so he can't use them. Remember his talk with kakashi? Guy already out ran the orbs and minatos plan was not to save guy manga fact.

Wtf do I argu with you? You say shet that the manga never suggested and you say manga fact lol
 

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Does every tard here seem to forget that kakashi and Minato allowed gai to get his last hit in? yea k. He would have died to those black orbs

exactly...but whats understood shouldnt have to be explained but it seems we have to explain
 

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Does every tard here not read minato telling Gai to not worry about dodging them and keep attacking no matter what? Do they also forget Gai broke through Madaras shield therefore not needing kakashi? Go reread the chapter, calling people tards because you missed what we saw gtfo.

Pls,don't you understand that no matter who Gai fights with,he loses and EVEN DIES as long as the person he fights with has an impressive healing factor!
He beats SM hashirama,but he outlives Gai
He beats BSM naruto but he outlives Gai.
 

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I was talking about the 7th gate clash, Gain didn' need minato and minato was not trying to save him he was trying to get the orbs way from madara so he can't use them. Remember his talk with kakashi? Guy already out ran the orbs and minatos plan was not to save guy manga fact.

Wtf do I argu with you? You say shet that the manga never suggested and you say manga fact lol

so minato didnt teleport in front of the black orbs which stopped them from hitting gai???


so lee didnt pick 7th gate gai up of the ground to get him to safety away from the incoming black orb???


both answers are yes...and yes if it happened in the manga then its a manga fact...
 

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I doubt Naruto could hang with 8th Gated Gai, but good thread nonetheless.

^^ thanks ;), well he would at least put a hell of battle

technically gai would have died in his 7th gate form but minato saved him from the black orb so if it were not for minato intervening then u nor i would even be able to see the 8th gate power and minato saved gai again from several black orbs which if they had hit would mean gai would have only hit Madara that 1 time.


then we have to take in mind madara said " can u still dance? do u have more techniques?, and i want to have some more fun "... those can be interpreted as madara toying around with gai just to see the full extent of the 8 gates power but...

^^ Yes I completly agree with you ;)

Great Work, You did a good job showing this to everyone. I agree with it.

Thank you very much ;)

Not a fact either That BSM nardo > 8 gates gai



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they have both Pushed The Jùbi Jins to a Limit where they had to go serious. But Gai did the MostSTuff alone wasn't it for the last part, thats why i Put Hima bove BSM nardo and Because he has More raw power next to TBB for naruto.

Well my jimmies are not rustled, I just speak the truth.

Well that is fine with me, but Imo Kurama/Sussano of Naruto and Sasuke fusing their powers is equal to stronger then 8th Gated Gai, do you agree ?

your post as a whole is right but i dnt agree with the part about bsm naruto soloing blind madara because naruto snuck him and then naruto didnt even destroy the v4 susano he just pounded it into the ground, it was the combined effort of all the bijuu that shattered blind madara's v4 susano but i can agree with the rest of your post...

^^ Well then I am glad we can agree, let's skip the part about Naruto as clearly we have different points of view on this topic ;)

No I disagree with you. Might guy is extremely powerful right now. I don't necesarily think he is stronger than juubidara but I think he is significantly more powerful than naruto or hashirama.

This is how my top 5 goes...

1. Madara(ten tails)
2. Might Guy(eight gates)
3. Obito (ten tails)
4. Hashirama
5 Naruto (BSM)

Then you are just going with flow of Gai bandawagon U_U

8th Gated Gai for now is close to SM Hashirama, that is all.

i dnt belive bsm naruto can kill 8 gates gai but i do understand that gai has to go into the 8th gate just to beat naruto and thats a automatic death for gai so any shinobi that forces gai to the 8th gate is his equal technically those who can survive the onslaught of the 8th gate are greater than gai but we dnt exactly knw who those shinobi could be...

Well I believe in complete opposite. Naruto in BSM has enough fire power to kill 8th Gated Gai before he unleashes night-time elephant but still still it would be hardly possible, but at the same time Naruto could not surivive Gai's full assault, even some blows would lethal for Naruto in BSM.

like seriously,some guys are rlly stupid.if naruto and gai fought,both of them would have demolished eachother with gai going 8 gates and landing more hits on naruto.but after some minutes when gai is spent,and he convulses and dies due to the evaporation of his blood,naruto's already impressive healing factor kicks into overdrive due to BSM.

^^ Exactly, Even if Gai is stronger while using 8th gated state, the gap is not that big.

Naruto could last longer and with a bit of luck takes Gai with TBB infused with nature energy before Gai lands his attacks.

8th gate gai is stronger than bsm naruto because he and the other tail beast got soloed by reg Madara with one rinnegan eye while gai been kicking Madara Jin azz so I don't understand why the hate for gai lol is it because he can beat your fav characters now?? Smh

No, You can not read properly manga and clearly has problem with memory what did happen already into manga. Besides you don't understand that Madara has special skills/perfect means to deal with tailed beasts, not everyone has such means(look at Gai now )

Even if 8th Gated Gai is stronger then BSM naruto which is very likely then still gap is not that big, and Naruto would put up a hell battle before he is took out by Gai.

I Know BSM nardo Wins if Guy Doesn't Go 8 Gates i mean. who didn't knew this. I'm Just saying if we have seen all this. how can you still Put BSM nardo above 8Gates gai.

however Naruto's Strongest attack (TBB) got Blocked by a Weaker Version of Jùbi jin (obito)
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we naruto has nothing On air. guy has.

Gai can actually counter the black Shield
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well gai Can kick in air and can comPete W/ someone who is flying. naruto has to Glide and wait for the right moment.

great post, so rep for you ;)

You convinced me that Gai is above BSM Naruto, but clearly Naruto/Sasuke using Kurama/Sussano fusion as against Obito is above 8th Gated Gai.

Excellent thread, I agree. +rep

Thanks you ;)

Naruto went full power w/ Sauce

^^ I beg to differ... just take a look at this panel :
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^^ Naruto stated that he is starting to be able to sense him(Obito), so Imo he was improving on his BSM' use, but he didn;t have enough time to master BSM, that is sure.

I am not even fanboying or pulling stuff out of my ass. Just compare Naruto in SM in Pain arc and in war arc, or KCM in the begining of war and latter same with BM. It is kishi's common and widely known message that Naruto need to use some time to master specific mode.

SO imo, NO Naruto has never used BSM to full potential
 

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You seem to be confused 8th gate guy is leagues stronger than bsm as he is faster and stronger than a juubi jin.
 

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You seem to be confused 8th gate guy is leagues stronger than bsm as he is faster and stronger than a juubi jin.

@ bolded part no, he is not just look at the previous Naruto's battle against Obito.

Ten tails Obito could one shoot him while tapping all chakra into one attack

about Naruto, yest most likely 8th Gate put Gai above him and even SM Hashirama but imo gap is not that big, so while Gai has bigger chance of succes to win and land blow imo Naruto or SM hashirama can also deal a lot of lethal damage to speed up Gai's dying moment.
 
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